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freddi16 30th Jun 2011 15:20

1975 check your pm

Dutch250 26th Jul 2011 11:41

Hey guys,

I applied with Cargolux like 2 months ago through the interpersonal website. But still haven't heared a word from them since.
Just the initial autoreply that they will get back to me.

I was wondering if this is normal or perhaps I should give them a call ??

thanx for your input in advance.

Kind regards

Danasutra 30th Jul 2011 09:11

Visiting the CP? Why?
There are procedures via Interpersonal/Career.aero and these are not there for nothing.
2 months wait is nothing. Because the interest in Cargolux is so overwhelming you just have to wait for your reply. It doesnt hurt to contact Interpersonal though, but it doesnt work in your favour to just drive by and bash into the office.
It's not your right to work for CV, thats for them to decide.
Don't be stupid and stick to the rules and procedures. Nobody is that special.

drfaust 6th Aug 2011 01:22

Word is on the street that they're waiting for the LG situation to sort itself out (including CV taking any excess crew) before they start handing out invites to any outsiders.

I think there will be ample opportunity for selection considering that they are about to expand drastically.

1975 8th Aug 2011 21:40

What is the LG situation, Luxair? What are the big expansion plans?

1975 9th Aug 2011 19:47

Thanks for the info, any ideas on how many new pilots that equals to per aircraft?

ray cosmic 10th Aug 2011 07:29

We used to have 16 aircraft staffed by around 400 pilots.
Currently less aircraft, but more crew. I suppose the real expansion could begin after delivery of the 3rd -8 if the decision is being taken to not replace the -400s.. Then my guess is around 25-30 pilots per aircraft..

1975 10th Aug 2011 10:02

Lets hope for the best, maybe the next thing is Cargolux Qatar... :)

Tank2Engine 10th Aug 2011 11:15

Lets hope for the best, maybe the next thing is Cargolux Qatar... :)
If using Cargolux Italia as a reference for the future, then perhaps you should not hope for a Cargolux Qatar. :ugh:

1975 10th Aug 2011 13:39

True, let's see what happens:)

Pow-wow 22nd Aug 2011 08:48

First aircraft will be arriving soon...

Boeing 747-8F Wins FAA, European Certification | AVIATION WEEK

nose door 27th Aug 2011 22:03

Hey Czech Buddy,

ND here, been away for a bit, however, my advice.... Go to the gulf... Emirates or Ethihad, Why, well you'll get a command there a lot quicker!! whilst life here in the Banking jungle is good we have a lot of issue's to be resolved.... command 10 yrs plus, so if your happy to be in the RHS for the rest of your life , go ahead join, but i have a lot of friends who are in the gulf, and things there really are about the same as europe... except the heat! And with a family, you'll have a villa/ condo etc all paid for!! Not to forget the 5pm maid service ;-) But if you really want to live in europe, then whey hey, we get shiney new a/c in a few days!! Old Aust77 will be coming in his pants over that one, that's if he still can fly, maybe as we type, he is in a shagged out 'ol 741 bitching on about his shiney CJ7 of such!! but as we know, soon after his post's NJE had serious troubles (thanks to the bucking fankers who created a whole load of **** for all of us and seem to have walked away from it, claiming that they were hard done by!!! A#$holes!) and he might well be flying a freifghter for CLX, hope chuffing not!
So, good luck, I like PVG, but only for a few beers or more in Bar Rouge or wednesdays in Zappatta's!!

Good luck!


Pow-wow 28th Aug 2011 11:20

Hi Nose Door and others,

Well, thats one point of view.

I can tell you that Cargolux is my 6th company to work for, and every other company I have worked for has had its own "issues" to sort out.

There is no company on the planet, that is perfect, but I think that in the great scheme of things, we are actually very well off here at Cargolux.

The "sandpit", just like Cargolux, is a lifestyle choice as I have mentioned in previous posts.

I too have plenty of ex-collegues and friends down there, and from what I have seen visiting them and what they tell me, its most certainly not for me.
Thats purely a personal choice thou.
Maybe I appreciate where I have come from and where I am now.

Pilots are very quick to bitch and moan about anything, but when you start countering the arguments, suddenly everyone changes their tune from "this company is ****..." to "yes, off course its not that bad..."

Like Nose Door said, the near future will be very interesting at Cargolux, as a lot of new aircraft will be arriving in a short space of time.

I am grateful for my job here, and I am optimistic about the future too.

There is always room for improvement in any aspect of life.

As for the time to command, I am in no rush to get there, as I am happy working here.
And none knows what will happen in the future.
Maybe things will move quicker, maybe not.

Please don't get me wrong Nose Door, I am not saying that your point of view is wrong, I just wanted to put up a different point of view :ok:

N1toGo 8th Sep 2011 10:31

Another day less until the -8 arrives…
First of all, thanks everybody to give all the great information to almost every question a newbie could have.
After reading all 44 pages from #1 and considering if the job suits me for 2 years, I feel like participating in the forum and start queuing for the job…
Just applied with a JAR ATPL / 4000 TT / LR experience @ the age of 29 years.

So far no news as career.aero states that there might be no selection until end of 2011.
Looking forward to read more interesting posts and hopefully be part of the team one day,


UNY200 21st Sep 2011 09:29

recruitment homepage
anybody knows whats wrong with the recruitment homepage.
Trying to log on to update my application but ends up at a blank page.

Is in not supporting MAC maybe?

N1toGo 3rd Oct 2011 11:46

Cargolux Italia
Anybody can tell if the roumor is true, that Cargolux F/O´s are asked to go to Cargolux Italia to get their upgrade ?

If yes...is that the only way to get the upgrade or is the standard waiting time (10-14 years approx. )still an option and Cargolux Italia just an accelarated upgrade for worse conditions ?

Would be a tough fact after working so long for an upgrade in SA...

Any ideas or even better facts are appreciated.



South Prince 5th Oct 2011 17:04

is the type rating subject to any bond?

80sghost 6th Oct 2011 15:02

Thanks to all cargolux pilots for all the information provided. Can any of you answer a few more questions?
Can the pilot choose to get 9 days off all in a row every month? or is it the company to choose if you get 9 in a row or 6+3?
Now that the 800 issue is solved there will be expansion and hopefully pilots recruitment will start again?
How is the general feeling in the company about the new shareholder: things are going to improve or get worse for employees?
thanks and rgrds

emergency descent 8th Oct 2011 18:12

Answers to the last questions
It is true that all Cargolux F/O´s have been asked to apply for Cargolux Italia as DEC. The contract would have been for 5 years. After this 5 years you would have rejoined Cargolux in Luxembourg without loosing any seniority. If you would have been captain by then you would have stayed captain, otherwise you would have found yourself back on the right seat. In total 2 F/O have been desperate enough to apply. In the end none signed the contract. I guess you can imagine why.

I think there was a bond linked to my type rating, but not more than 1 or 2 years. By the way, hardly ever someone resigned and with exception of the guys that went to Air France, most of the ones that did, tried to come back after realizing their mistake.

The 9 days off mentioned are in fact 10 days off, as there have to be 24 hours of rest time starting at midnight local time before the beginning of the first off-day (blank day). Crew Planning prefers to give the 10 days in one block as they save one one rest day. Otherwise it would be 7 days off in one block + an other 4 days off in one block. You can place 3 requests for each upcoming roster. Trips as well as off-days. All is by straight seniority. Thus you can ask to have your off days in one block or in two. Most guys link some of their 42 vacation days to their off days if taken in one block. The amount of off-days per roster is not reduced if you take vacation days on top. There are 13 rosters of 28 days per year.

About Qatar as shareholder. Ask 10 of our pilots and you will get 10 totally different opinions.

About the recruiting page. Call Interpersonal or send them an email to explain your technical problems. This is what I did some years ago. They should be able to help you.

By the way, I back Pow-wow in his opinion of the company. You will do hard to find better a company with better working conditions, especially in europe.
In all the years I can not remember that any one complaint about his salary.

80sghost 10th Oct 2011 13:19

thank you so much for your answer emer desc
I've read the whole topic and I understand that the 6 off block is untouchable but the 3 daysoff can be moved if they need you, what happens if you get just one block of 9 days off? Are all 9 days unmovable or 3 of them you can get a duty if they need?
I also read that the average nights out pr month is 15 which means that during the 18 days of duty you also return a few times to base right?
It would be very nice to see a junior first officer roster (without details so it's anonimous) to have an idea of how life would be during the first years.
Let's hope all the 400 will be kept so they start hiring again very soon. tnx.


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