British Airways - CC Industrial Relations & Negotiations

[Andy_S]

Originally Posted by Lizzie

So, if the strike lasts 12 days and BA crew are marooned in JFK/SYD/LAX ...are the cabin crew still going to be on Allowances? Will BA pay for their hotel bill if they are not 'working'?

I don't think they'll be marooned. I believe BASSA / UNITE have advised cabin crew to complete their scheduled trips before commencing strike action.

[Papillon]

Desertia

I honestly don't know!

I guess it might be one of those things that's only testable in a tribunal, but we'd need an HR expert to tell us probably.

[LIMA OR ALPHA JUNK]

There is very little chance of the judge granting an injunction

I'm not so sure. Unite has manifestly misled its members on the length and timing of the strike asides balloting members who were bound to vote YES who were not going to be part of any industrial action.

Pied Pipers of Hamelin, the UNITE leaders are, taking their naive membership to the abyss. Hope they can swim

[Lord Bracken]

I don't think they'll be marooned. I believe BASSA / UNITE have advised cabin crew to complete their scheduled trips before commencing strike action.

Pretty hard to complete scheduled trips back if the aircraft they were due to operate on has been stranded in LHR due to striking crew...

e.g. if a crew operate into JFK on the late afternoon (local) of the 21st and the aircraft then turn around with new crew and head back to LHR, arriving on the morning of the 22nd how are they going to operate a flight back on the evening (JFK time) of the 22nd if no aircraft have left London (IIRC there is only 1 BA nightstopping at JFK)? Or will they be refusing to operate on the 21st too?

[APYu]

The aircraft could leave Heathrow with Flight Crew and fire watchers

[Locked door]

No fire watchers required as long as the appropriate pre departure checks actioned.

[Hotel Mode]

The aircraft could leave Heathrow with Flight Crew and fire watchers

Why would BA want to position crew home, if they are just going to strike? It would cause chaos afterwards as there would be no crew downroute to operate home. Sure they may want to bring crew back from high allowance places, but why bother bring a crew back from Bombay. Leave them there for Christmas on pennies a day. The Hotac is all paid in advance so no saving there.

[jetset lady]

Hotel Mode,

Presumably, the aircraft would also bring back the inbound passengers, so they wouldn't be positioning the crew home.

Jsl

[Tiramisu]

Lord Bracken,
Refusing to operate on the 21st, could see one being sacked faster than going on strike!

[Lord Bracken]

BA have got the injunction according to Sky News.

[Human Factor]

Strike off. (Sky)

[mesmeris]

Injunction granted!

[Tiramisu]

Yes! BA has WON!
Best News!

[midman]

Bassa lose ruling!!!

Lizanne not so clever!!

[courtney]

Strike ruled illegal. But who is going to book with BA now, knowing that the union will have another go in the near future?

[henkybaby]

Schadenfreude...

I love that word.

[mrangar]

How long are we safe?

My wife and kids are due to fly on the 28th! Will the Union pass another Ballot and begin a strike by then?? Is this just a short term victory?

[Weather Map]

Well done BA lets be honest that union is useless .

[Desertia]

Unite: "The decision is a disgraceful day for democracy".

Actually it isn't, because several million people think you 8,000 or 9,000 are a complete bunch of

Edit: Yes they intend to reballot.

So it won't happen until at least January 7th I would think.

[LHR27C]

Strike ruled illegal. But who is going to book with BA now, knowing that the union will have another go in the near future?

Wait till BA have sued Unite to the heavens for damages first - they'll be able to claim a lot of compensation from this.