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Old 17th Dec 2009, 09:52
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Globespan

Strikes need public sympathy to fully succeed. This one seems to have very little.

CC must know this in their hearts.

Ba may not go down because of this in the same way as globespan, but it seems to me that BA CC should think about their actions and how well they are paid relative to CC in other airlines.

Come on guys, airlines are going bust

Don't kill the goose
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 10:10
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Thanks very much. Hope the snow ploughs & de-icers are serviceable!
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 10:26
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I Said NO

I think more will turn up than people think. Glad to see our friends in the front offering to help out we are one team afterall. come on Cabin crew think what your doing and keep BA IN THE SKIES
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 10:34
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Sky reporting WW in discussion with the chairman of ACAS.
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 10:35
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Is there some truth to this?

I found this article talking about :

Lizanne Malone, a senior stewardess and one of the leading figures of the union, was said by the Daily Mail to divide her time between a home in west London and a £400,000 condominium in Los Angeles with a swimming pool. Miss Malone, 53, is believed to earn £50,000 a year, and has been on paid sick leave for at least a year while recovering from osteoporosis in her foot.
The union boss draws a part-time BA salary of about £28,000 as cabin services director and is believed to earn £100 a day for her Bassa role.
Miss Malone refused to comment over the matter. When approached outside their home her American husband Terry Cochrane said she was in the UK and had only just been given the medical all-clear to fly again.

Is this what thousands of CC are protecting by striking and maybe risk loosing a job over?
Hope everybody is sure about what they think they know
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 10:42
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"is believed" to earn 50,000 pounds a year
"is believed "to earn 100 pounds a day for bassa
lives in a 400,000 pound condo which "we believe " is owned by her hubby;
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 10:45
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I wonder how long it is before someone discusses Ms Malone's income tax status!
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 10:45
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Tomkins:

Sorry Im not quite sure what point you are trying to make, could you clarify?
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Temporary / Holding Pool Crew

Does anyone have any valid information on temporary / holding-pool crew?

Rumours are rife on Bassa Forum that they could be drafted in to replace striking crew very quickly. Are BA allowed to pull these crew in to replace those that decide not to come to work? Or do BA have to struggle by with whatever they have left?

How many of these crew are there? I heard 2000 but have no facts to back that up as yet.

Could our strikers literally be surplus to requirements? I do hope so.
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 10:54
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If they had proof they would have said "earns" .Who "believes "that she earns xxxxxxxxx.......... do you ,do I ......
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 10:56
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Re Malones relationship with HMRC. Its already been mentioned by me. Would love further discourse though.
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 11:05
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Well you have to hand it to BASSA they have made complete and utter fools out of the cabin crew workforce again .They did this back in 2007 led them up the garden path. Lets hope WW breaks BASSA for good this time.
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 11:13
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weather map : and yes that potential strike cost BA £80M in lost passengers who have never returned. From BBC. How many this time round a lot more me thinks
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 11:14
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Liz Malone lives in the lap of luxury in a £400k house Los Angeles, hasn't flown for a year, and has free flights etc.,

Like most union leaders she likes the trappings...

Here, read for yourself.

The BA comrade out in California: £50,000 a year union activist who lives in LA and hasn't flown for a year | Mail Online

Where has she been in all of this? Not indicative of a good union person at all - except the first bit above, of course.

Methinks a can of maggots is about to be opened.
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 11:18
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Thumbs down

Just a reminder that a BA win in court today, whilst massively popular, would only be a temporary reprieve from the BASSA retards.

They will have the right to ballot again, this time properly, and call another strike at the earliest opportunity should they get the mandate (although comment from many CC suggests they would be reluctant to do so unless they knew exactly for what IA they were voting).

However, I think the PR nightmare that exists now would be even worse if they tried to do it just before or during their own court case. The world would truly think they've gone stark staring mad (to an extent it already does).

Out of interest, if BA decided it has to make people compulsorily redundant, what is the minimum it has to pay, and can it specifically choose the human filth that squealed with joy at Sandown when they learned they had been given the opportunity to screw up everyone's Christmas and New Year plans?
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I fly with a lot of decent hard working cabin crew who do a fantastic job.However they need to see through these people that run their union.One word to sum them up. DISGRACEFUL.
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 11:20
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Whilst that's true, she could have denied it when they spoke to her. Or issued a statement saying that it was completely untrue.
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 11:22
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Desertia,

Statutory Redundancy Payment

An SRP is based on:

* the employee's age
* the employee's amount of continuous service - up to a maximum of 20 years
* the employee's weekly pay - up to a limit of £380 where the employee's employment ends on or after 1 October 2009

Currently, the maximum SRP payable is £11,400.
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 11:22
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Out of interest, if BA decided it has to make people compulsorily redundant, what is the minimum it has to pay, and can it specifically choose the human filth that squealed with joy at Sandown when they learned they had been given the opportunity to screw up everyone's Christmas and New Year plans?
I don't think you can do that - they have legally done nothing wrong. BA could however, get rid of an entire type of employee - CSD's for instance. By doing this they could eliminate the most expensive crew members at a stroke. I'm not advocating that by the way just stating what may be possible
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 11:26
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In law, the precedent a company has set with previous redundancies is an important factor. They couldn't just give everyone the statutory minimum because they're in a bad mood with them.
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