Mass exodus at easyJet LGW?
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Mass exodus at easyJet LGW?
In the same vein as the Virgin thread, has anyone noticed the hordes leaving easyJet at LGW?
I'm not just talking about ex-GB crew either, many of who will be leaving for BA LHR soon, but many existing crew seem to be heading for pastures new.
I wonder if we might see a repeat of summer 2006, having had a relatively calm and quiet 2007?
I'm not just talking about ex-GB crew either, many of who will be leaving for BA LHR soon, but many existing crew seem to be heading for pastures new.
I wonder if we might see a repeat of summer 2006, having had a relatively calm and quiet 2007?
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Why are so many leaving? I think their turnover is about 20%...
They do seem to be constantly recruiting for new crew. And lots seem to be heading to BA or VS.
As an ex EZY jetter myself I am not surprised. Whilst many of the crew are fantastic the long days and flights are not.
They do seem to be constantly recruiting for new crew. And lots seem to be heading to BA or VS.
As an ex EZY jetter myself I am not surprised. Whilst many of the crew are fantastic the long days and flights are not.
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A lot of the crew I have spoken to over the last week are thoroughly p*ssed off.
I have operated a fair number of AGP/ALC flights from the North Terminal on A319's where there will be a mix of traditional easyJet pax and GB pax. The GB pax I am finding to be quite rude and demanding - which you can't blame them for as they originally booked their flights with GB operating BA standards, but there are no excuses for the way that they are being rude to the easyJet crew.
Quite a few easyJet crew who went over to GB as "easyJet Ambassadors" are not enjoying the flights much as the rostering is somewhat random and not in the same vein as traditional easyJet with 3 earlies, 3 lates then 3 days off (they are doing a random 6 days on then 3 days off).
If you asked me 2 months ago do I enjoy working for easyJet and will I still be there in 2 years, the answer would have been "yes" - now though, I am not sure if I will still want to be there in 2 months
I am so not looking forward to the busy summer holiday period this year, it is going to be vile!
I have operated a fair number of AGP/ALC flights from the North Terminal on A319's where there will be a mix of traditional easyJet pax and GB pax. The GB pax I am finding to be quite rude and demanding - which you can't blame them for as they originally booked their flights with GB operating BA standards, but there are no excuses for the way that they are being rude to the easyJet crew.
Quite a few easyJet crew who went over to GB as "easyJet Ambassadors" are not enjoying the flights much as the rostering is somewhat random and not in the same vein as traditional easyJet with 3 earlies, 3 lates then 3 days off (they are doing a random 6 days on then 3 days off).
If you asked me 2 months ago do I enjoy working for easyJet and will I still be there in 2 years, the answer would have been "yes" - now though, I am not sure if I will still want to be there in 2 months
I am so not looking forward to the busy summer holiday period this year, it is going to be vile!
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The ex-GB passengers really shouldn't be on 319 flights unless they've changed their bookings as all GB flights are now being operated with exactly the same schedule by ex-GB aircraft. All AGP/ALC (including the original scheduled easyJet flights) are going from the North Terminal.
Maybe I'm just used to the passengers but mine have all been fine since the changeover.
Curious to see that recruitment has stopped for LGW - I wonder how long that will last? Though there are two courses in Jubilee House for the 320 fleet and no doubt plenty on the way from Luton for the 319 fleet. And with this planned reduction in crew numbers goodness knows what will be going on this year.
Maybe I'm just used to the passengers but mine have all been fine since the changeover.
Curious to see that recruitment has stopped for LGW - I wonder how long that will last? Though there are two courses in Jubilee House for the 320 fleet and no doubt plenty on the way from Luton for the 319 fleet. And with this planned reduction in crew numbers goodness knows what will be going on this year.
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Well that must be what has happened, the ex-GB pax are coming on, querying why they have no seat number on boarding cards and then some of made comments along lines of "This never happened when it was BA" etc.
Plus I know of a flight on a 319 that had some charter pax on in error which lead to a few problems.
Plus I know of a flight on a 319 that had some charter pax on in error which lead to a few problems.
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Lots of people leaving in Bristol too.
I'm with you Getoutofmygalley, except for a longer time frame: I used to love working for easyjet and thought we had one of the best employers in the industry but my view has changed over the past six months or so...
I wonder if they will really share this years pulse results with us...but then, it always depends on the questions they ask anyway.
I know I would go for another job if I could think of something. My problem is that I don't want/can't commute so another airline job is not an option.
A part of me still hopes that things will get better again...a vain hope, I'm sure.
I'm with you Getoutofmygalley, except for a longer time frame: I used to love working for easyjet and thought we had one of the best employers in the industry but my view has changed over the past six months or so...
I wonder if they will really share this years pulse results with us...but then, it always depends on the questions they ask anyway.
I know I would go for another job if I could think of something. My problem is that I don't want/can't commute so another airline job is not an option.
A part of me still hopes that things will get better again...a vain hope, I'm sure.
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I wonder if the share price might be a factor for some people - many were staying to reap the rewards from the BAYE and SAYE schemes, perhaps they're cutting their losses on the former, realising they won't profit from the latter, and then realising there's nothing left to stay for?
Things did look reasonably rosy last year, and I'm assuming that's why the results were so good. (In fairness, my survey was glowing). Now though? Who knows?
Things are much less stable at the moment, and from a cabin crew point-of-view not many seem entirely happy. Add to that the fact that a growing part of the crew community are on temporary contracts.
I'd be surprised if this year's Pulse shows a higher rate than 2006.
Things did look reasonably rosy last year, and I'm assuming that's why the results were so good. (In fairness, my survey was glowing). Now though? Who knows?
Things are much less stable at the moment, and from a cabin crew point-of-view not many seem entirely happy. Add to that the fact that a growing part of the crew community are on temporary contracts.
I'd be surprised if this year's Pulse shows a higher rate than 2006.
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Pulse will only ask questions that the company wants to know the answers to. I bet there won't be a question along the lines of "With regards to happiness at work, compared to last year are you more or less happy?" - or "Would you rate easyJet as a better employer this year than last?" - or "With regards to 'trust' would you say that your level of trust in management has gone up or down on last year?".
Pulse is a load of tosh, the only thing that has happened with it is new uniforms and they would have happened anyway as a certain CEO who never wears his to uniform to uniform standard could not stand the old Star Trek look.
Pulse is a load of tosh, the only thing that has happened with it is new uniforms and they would have happened anyway as a certain CEO who never wears his to uniform to uniform standard could not stand the old Star Trek look.
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Hi I'm an ex GB crew member - was in GB for 2 years. I know there's been a bit of negativity among both GB and EZY crews but I have to say I'm really enjoying it! The people I've met have been lovely.
Every buy-out has a turbulent period but I think give it 6 months and 'let the dust settle' and staff will be more positive again. I do feel sorry for the EZY crew who have come to work on GB routes as they have experienced a pay cut due to less sector pay.
Once we become "as one" in October EZY crew will be back on their more well known routes and I hope everything goes smoothly!
I believe recruitment has temporarily stopped due to the current need to cut costs with the price of fuel.
Every buy-out has a turbulent period but I think give it 6 months and 'let the dust settle' and staff will be more positive again. I do feel sorry for the EZY crew who have come to work on GB routes as they have experienced a pay cut due to less sector pay.
Once we become "as one" in October EZY crew will be back on their more well known routes and I hope everything goes smoothly!
I believe recruitment has temporarily stopped due to the current need to cut costs with the price of fuel.
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After reading all these posts I get the impression alot of crew blame BA . Well actually blame GB Bland Board members and Directors for agreeing to the sale !
I know what it was like when you were getting bought / sold of , am ex Cityflyer !
I know what it was like when you were getting bought / sold of , am ex Cityflyer !
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Well yeah, just be glad you weren't at BMI over the last 6 months...the atmosphere between ex-BMED crew and BMI crew has been truly poisonous...at least most ex-franchise peeps have got out quickly 
Don't forget other airlines tend to recruit quite often...BA have done so more or less continuously for the last 4-5 years.
Don't forget other airlines tend to recruit quite often...BA have done so more or less continuously for the last 4-5 years.
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If things were as bad as you claim you saw, I hope you made a report about it. Myself, having worked at LGW for a considerable number of years now would actually claim that LGW crew are amongst the strictest for following SOP's.
And with regards to poor customer service, I would dispute that 110%. I am forever being told by pax that they prefer flying easyJet to the other airlines because they enjoy flying with our crew for the great service that they receive and that they always receive service with a smile (and they always then mention a certain other airline that we compete with at LGW saying we are much better than them).
With regards to stealing from the bars, well that is a big no-no. If you witnessed crew stealing, then you should have done something about it.
If things were as bad as you claim you saw, I hope you made a report about it. Myself, having worked at LGW for a considerable number of years now would actually claim that LGW crew are amongst the strictest for following SOP's.
And with regards to poor customer service, I would dispute that 110%. I am forever being told by pax that they prefer flying easyJet to the other airlines because they enjoy flying with our crew for the great service that they receive and that they always receive service with a smile (and they always then mention a certain other airline that we compete with at LGW saying we are much better than them).
With regards to stealing from the bars, well that is a big no-no. If you witnessed crew stealing, then you should have done something about it.
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All these crew who are leaving to join BA at LHR would it be for the temp Long Haul contract?
Things up north in EDI and GLA are seemingly just as down in the dumps as everyone else. The crew give and give and give but that doesnt seem to be enough with talk of the small base review/closures we feel that we have nothing more to give the company. Its been hugely soul destroying watching our once great domestic network (rumored to be the cash cow routes for the company) desimated. We drew many pax from the rival BMI and BA routes, load factors of over 100% on first wave departures. Now we have a hap-hazzard flight times to london, EU routes have taken the prime interest it seems and our domestic flights are leaving with loads as low as 30 pax.
All of our hard work to win these pax over to EasyJet has been wiped out in little over 2 months. There has been little adjustment to some of the flights but too little too late. Its almost like the company want the routes to fail so they can pull out of them.
I seriously hope the company don't under estimate the crew any more than they do, as something is going to give shortly. We are among the best assets this company has. In the days gone by that seemed to be remembered. Now we are taken for granted almost with contempt.
We have the politician AH at our helm telling us what we want to hear but he's nothing more than a wolf dressed in sheeps clothing. Im extremely fed up of the them and us attitude in this company. If Cor wants rid of crew food then i will agree to it on one condition. You lot in La La Land get rid of your canteen, breaks, tables and chairs (so you can stand to eat), have nothing more than a vending machine and a tiny oven to make your food (remembering not to bring in more than 100mls of sauce). Try and eat your meal standing up, next to the toilet all while you have 5min break during a service. Secondly you go empty the toilet and office bins just like we have to onboard. Clean your office and desks yourself to save a fortune on cleaning costs, give up your cash bonuses to be given shares, but only if your here in 3 years of course and finally give up your right to a decent holiday in the summer. If i cant get my so called 9 days of leave in summer then why the hell can you lot????
All of the issues that have made life hellish could be fixed. But they dont need another manager, and bonus to fix it!!
OOOOhhhh thats got some steam released!!!
Things up north in EDI and GLA are seemingly just as down in the dumps as everyone else. The crew give and give and give but that doesnt seem to be enough with talk of the small base review/closures we feel that we have nothing more to give the company. Its been hugely soul destroying watching our once great domestic network (rumored to be the cash cow routes for the company) desimated. We drew many pax from the rival BMI and BA routes, load factors of over 100% on first wave departures. Now we have a hap-hazzard flight times to london, EU routes have taken the prime interest it seems and our domestic flights are leaving with loads as low as 30 pax.
All of our hard work to win these pax over to EasyJet has been wiped out in little over 2 months. There has been little adjustment to some of the flights but too little too late. Its almost like the company want the routes to fail so they can pull out of them.
I seriously hope the company don't under estimate the crew any more than they do, as something is going to give shortly. We are among the best assets this company has. In the days gone by that seemed to be remembered. Now we are taken for granted almost with contempt.
We have the politician AH at our helm telling us what we want to hear but he's nothing more than a wolf dressed in sheeps clothing. Im extremely fed up of the them and us attitude in this company. If Cor wants rid of crew food then i will agree to it on one condition. You lot in La La Land get rid of your canteen, breaks, tables and chairs (so you can stand to eat), have nothing more than a vending machine and a tiny oven to make your food (remembering not to bring in more than 100mls of sauce). Try and eat your meal standing up, next to the toilet all while you have 5min break during a service. Secondly you go empty the toilet and office bins just like we have to onboard. Clean your office and desks yourself to save a fortune on cleaning costs, give up your cash bonuses to be given shares, but only if your here in 3 years of course and finally give up your right to a decent holiday in the summer. If i cant get my so called 9 days of leave in summer then why the hell can you lot????
All of the issues that have made life hellish could be fixed. But they dont need another manager, and bonus to fix it!!
OOOOhhhh thats got some steam released!!!
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Is this not also a reflection of the downturn in the UK economy that will surely see things getting a lot tougher this summer. Certainly for a few of the LOCOS. At LHR we have been recruiting 24 CSA's a month and on each course of 12 there have always been at least 3 ex GB crew members, with the exception of one know all the rest have been a pleasure to meet.
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It seems like it is just the opposite here in MAD. Out of the 100 F/A's here, I am only aware of 3 leaving over the past 12 months. And our conditions are not even that good, as we are on Spanish contracts.
But if we compare easyJet to other airlines with bases in Spain, EZY wins by far.....the best people, a good low-cost product, new planes, a very respectful employer. I really love working for easyJet in Madrid, and if it stays like that I can see myself here forever.
I was sent to LGW for a week last december and I didn't like what I saw : F/A's stealing from the bars (with the excuse that Gate Gourmet hadn't paid our commissions yet so they were just repaying themselves from the Kiosk), and a generally lax approach to SOP's and poor customer service. Maybe I was just unlucky but I hope they won't send me to LGW anymore. I too would quit if I had to work like that.
But if we compare easyJet to other airlines with bases in Spain, EZY wins by far.....the best people, a good low-cost product, new planes, a very respectful employer. I really love working for easyJet in Madrid, and if it stays like that I can see myself here forever.
I was sent to LGW for a week last december and I didn't like what I saw : F/A's stealing from the bars (with the excuse that Gate Gourmet hadn't paid our commissions yet so they were just repaying themselves from the Kiosk), and a generally lax approach to SOP's and poor customer service. Maybe I was just unlucky but I hope they won't send me to LGW anymore. I too would quit if I had to work like that.
LGW is a good base, but the problem is that it's really quite big now and this makes it very difficult for the management to be as visible as they once were. Many new crew don't even know who the ACCMs sending them emails are. And if any of them have spotted the elusive MB then they're truly privileged.
Gatwick has long had a reputation as an iron fist base in some respects, but every base has its good crew, its not-so-good crew and its own little way of doing things. And then within Gatwick, the main fleet and the subfleet have different ways of doing things too.
If you see poor performance from your colleagues, bring it up casually and if you can't resolve it yourself then escalate it.