Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Other Aircrew Forums > Cabin Crew
Reload this Page >

QANTAS: The Thread II

Wikiposts
Search

Notices
Cabin Crew Where professional flight attendants discuss matters that affect our jobs & lives.

QANTAS: The Thread II

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 3rd August 2005 | 08:58
  #61 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
From: Southern Hemisphere
Praise The Lord

Dixon retires early....outstanding.Lets hope he takes a few of his cronies with him:Hassell ,Grant and the whole BA Air NZ diaspora with him.Lets hope Gregg brings in some real talent who understand that staff are not the enemy!!!
Butterfield8 is offline  
Old 3rd August 2005 | 09:08
  #62 (permalink)  
Registered User **
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,346
Likes: 0
From: The Ultimate Crew Rest....
If the story in Mondays Age about PG replacing GD in the not too distant future is true , the question why begs to be asked?

Even though GD has only recently signed on for a few more years why would he leave early?

Is it because the baby of his and LG's ie. the LHR base is not working and in fact is costing money ,MJ has asked for his early retirement.

Or is his program of sustainable stupidity not sustainable?
lowerlobe is offline  
Old 3rd August 2005 | 09:15
  #63 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 270
Likes: 0
From: Sydney
"Lets hope Gregg brings in some real talent who understand that staff are not the enemy!!!"

We live in hope and so ought the shareholders. Especially if they, [like us] hold LONGTERM concerns for QANTAS's survival......
jettlager is offline  
Old 3rd August 2005 | 09:25
  #64 (permalink)  
Registered User **
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,346
Likes: 0
From: The Ultimate Crew Rest....
If GD is indeed leaving early or is being asked to leave prematurely,then wait for the sickening and obscene bonus he will get !!!
lowerlobe is offline  
Old 3rd August 2005 | 10:31
  #65 (permalink)  
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: feet on the ground
october

watch out for the AGM in october in relation to GD. especially the retirement benefits for a privileged few.
qcc2 is offline  
Old 3rd August 2005 | 11:29
  #66 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
From: sydney
Hi Lowerlobe,

When you say that you presume that I saw the roadshow in Singapore you presumed wrong. It was in Sydney.

And as for saying if I believe the info in it i'd believe anything I never said that did actually believe all they said. I was merely stating what they told us in response to what someone had previously posted.

In my 15yrs with this company I know what to believe and what not to.

I dont need you to tell me.
sydney s/h is offline  
Old 3rd August 2005 | 12:49
  #67 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
From: USA
Can confirm Labia's comments regarding forward bookings from a very reliable source. QF is getting slaughtered out of Singapore by SQ and likewise out of Hong Kong by Cathay up to Europe. The LHR base is short of crew, that is why there is only 1 Thai based crew allocated for Frankfurt trips for Bid Period 240.
Bad Adventures is offline  
Old 3rd August 2005 | 13:12
  #68 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
From: Southern Hemisphere
Everything is...?

The spin doctors are working overtime on the LHR base.Everthing is going south no matter how you try much you try to sweeten it.
Dixon is going early for two reasons:
1.His personal life is a mess.
2.Because of (1.) he has made some appalling decisions that have turned out badly....Jetstar Asia and...you guessed it :the LHR base.
All this to bust a union...what a moron!!!
Dixon has lost the plot and the board have lost confidence(in him).
History will not be kind to one Geoffrey Dixon.
Hey Geoff I`m still here and you are CACTUS!!!!
Swine.
Butterfield8 is offline  
Old 3rd August 2005 | 19:09
  #69 (permalink)  
Registered User **
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,346
Likes: 0
From: The Ultimate Crew Rest....
Sydney S/H

"With regards to the pax being unhappy with the UK crew, i went to a crew forum the other day and the stats that they displayed on the overhead actually says otherwise".

It does not matter if you went to a forum in Sydney,Singapore or San Fransisco if you state the company line it infers that you believe that statement.

"In my 15 years with the company I know what to believe"

Apparently you do!!!
lowerlobe is offline  
Old 4th August 2005 | 01:28
  #70 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: Australia
The London base has been an outstanding success from other, more valuable perspectives.

The company got to increase the number of foreign based crews when the unionists said over my dead body. How hilarious.

They got to divide the cabin crew group between those that did want to work (over 70%) and the hardliners who were ultimately humiliated when the EBA was overwhelmingly voted YES. Further weakening the FAAA's bargaining position. How hilarious.

It also gets to further reduce the underproductive QF longhaul crews offshore hours because they are cheaper to use at home to Perth and back. How hilarious.

Your rampant unionism has brought some great leaps forward. Can't wait for the next EBA. That should be a corker!
Jet_Black_Monaro is offline  
Old 4th August 2005 | 02:12
  #71 (permalink)  
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: feet on the ground
correction

JBM if you do know so much about aviation then you would know that oz qf longhaul crew is cheap, flexible and highly productive compared to our international competitors(sans third world countries, which i am quit sure dixon would like to have us). however we do have a very expensive, unproductive (and by that i mean as an individual you cant make a decision but as a committee you can decide nothing can be done), overstaffed management, compared again to our international competitors. just do your homework (not on company time please).
qcc2 is offline  
Old 4th August 2005 | 02:21
  #72 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 577
Likes: 0
From: Stralya
Management ought look at what AA are doing...asking their staff
And it works. Why not get the people who do the damn job to work out how to do it better...

Boghetti is gone, tied to the "engagement" survey that will be much worse second time around.

GD may well be on the way out, however I urge caution if you beleive an accountant will be better.

GD is but part of the board and executive management team. In fact you could say he is the public face of a board who set policy behind closed doors. Before you say I'm defending him I'm not. Gregg has been there every step of the way, with his head firmly entrenched in the numbers...

Accountants count numbers... people they see nothing other than numbers, the whole discipline is based on seeing nothing but figures..AFTER THE EVENT. They analyse what YOU did, not what you should do.. He will more than likely be as bad if not worse than our current CEO....And GD isn't doing that well
QFinsider is offline  
Old 4th August 2005 | 03:12
  #73 (permalink)  
Registered User **
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,346
Likes: 0
From: The Ultimate Crew Rest....
Hey JBM

"The London base has been an outstanding success from other, more valuable perspectives".

You are right for once but for all the wrong reasons as usual !!

The base is a success because it is a flop financially and for that reason it will get rid of a few management that deserve to go.

The LHR base crew actually work less than the Aus based crew do,so your efficiency analogy is wrong again.

Finally,if you are one of the face painters(I have never seen you admit who you work for though) you will find out about efficiency when your new boss is finished with you as he tries to fight off Jetstar.What a corker !!!

I wouldn't be laughing at all if I were you,remember the wharfies dispute...who was the boss of the transport company involved then..mmmmmm his name is vaguely familiar

I can only imagine what your pay and conditions will be like in a year or so, I doubt you will have a grin on your face then..
how hilarious

Last edited by lowerlobe; 4th August 2005 at 08:20.
lowerlobe is offline  
Old 4th August 2005 | 03:14
  #74 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 270
Likes: 0
From: Sydney
Sad to see that our resident virgin blue fa jet black monaro has stopped taking his medication again.

Nurse.................... NURSE!!!
jettlager is offline  
Old 4th August 2005 | 10:36
  #75 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 195
Likes: 0
From: SYD
And we had peace for so many days

The pax are unhappy = another round of BS by the little people who have no imput into running anything but trips to cosco.

The LHR base is not a finacial flop and has hammered every other base in customer satisfaction over the last 2 customer satisfaction surveys.

Please ask to see the results base by base.

I know because I work there and see the product and premium pax have never had it better. I can compare because I have worked out of LH SYD and LH LHR and can't see or hear from pax any major differances except for the weekly questions about the new eye candy thats onboard LHR flights. (yes business men are mostly dirty perv's ha ha)

Do you think the loads have something to do with a certain couple of bombs that have been around. BBC reported today imbound tourism and travel to the UK is down 30% this month with hotels having there lowest occupancy since 9/11.
Some major int. companys have cancelled all travel to the UK untill it is safer for executive travel.


I scoff at the total crap that flows from some of the posters on this forum with there small thinking.

Do you really think GD and LG are in danger of loosing there jobs ? Dixon was just in LHR to get an award from oneworld and the world airline assoc. for being one of the most successful CEO's in airline history and for his service to oneworld. The only way he will leave is when GE , Coles or Ford come with a much larger cheque book.

Question.
Does BA or Virgin Atlantic follow the 900 hrs per year rule in their rostering ? = no because most airlines have already been given dispensation, this came from the leader of UK fa's representitive yesterday Kevin Egan, so another pprune qf rumour blown outa the water.

Fact: Got a hand over ex SIN last week, had 42 pax in J/C transit. Got to LHR and went to hand back 40 jackets or coats.
All 40 had there coat tags changed around, both M/D and U/D so we had 40 jackets with the wrong coat tags swapped to make life difficult.
So this is the great customer service from my old mates in Aus ? The great service you think you provide ? Imagine the impact on our pax when we had to get discriptions of each pax garment. Yes this one was not going to be let go and there is a investigation taking place and the LHR managers are reporting the childish rubbish that AUS crew have been making a huge deal out of since LHR started.
Don't believe me, ask around the SYD L/H base a few people would be aware of it by now including the ars_holes that did it.

Challenge
Lowerlobe, str, labia etc
Donate $1000 to pathfinders if the LHR base does not close within two years.
I'll do the same if it does and we can make an offical photo hand over on pprune.

So please facts no fiction once again and not the so called "reliable source" rubbish. I'am still laughing at the 1000 plus text messages of the 32 crew that were stood down for removing a/c stores.

Yes sheep follow sheep

Last edited by peanut pusher; 5th August 2005 at 05:34.
peanut pusher is offline  
Old 4th August 2005 | 16:04
  #76 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 594
Likes: 0
From: ---
Must admit, not blanketing all QF SYD/MEL/BNE/PER long haul crew, but was in Singapore a few days ago and as usual in the hotel foyer there is always tonnes of QF and BA crew coming in and out, i had never seen such scruffy looking crew than the QF long haul crew that were there. To be honest it was embarrassing! Ok, fair enough at the end of a duty, but these guys were only just going out! (It's not hard to look like we're supposed to uniform wise). I was standing nearby and this youngish long haul crew member said to us, "You must be London crew heading out", i said why? he replied with "Because you all look good, so fresh and happy. "I said no, we're actually PER crew and we've just finished(short sector). I then saw London based crew going out later that night and they were immaculate and looked fantastic!

I know this is off the topic, but my first contact with LHR crew, so just thought i'd post it.

Can someone maybe tell me why A LOT of crew find it so hard to look like they're supposed to? as said before, it really isn't that hard, plus if you can't manage to wear the uniform properly, you're actually bringing the look of the whole crew down.
OZcabincrew is offline  
Old 4th August 2005 | 22:10
  #77 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
From: Aus
Quote from QCC2

"but my more worrying point is a very good friend who is, sorry , was a qf 10 regular in pc has decided to go ba to oz. plain feedback its inconsistant. i suppose when you are as a platinum spending a
bit of money shuttling backwards and forwards one can allow them to make a valid observation. unfortunatly this person is also in a senior role in a major corporation and has the ability to influence travel arrangements for their corporation."


Just an observation but I dont see how this is any result from LHR based crew. LHR base have never operated the QF10, this is operated soley by SYD crew. LHR base operate QF 32 and QF 16 ex LHR
SpiritofAus is offline  
Old 5th August 2005 | 05:44
  #78 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 195
Likes: 0
From: SYD
Thanks spirit and oz

This is exactly my point most of the time.

Some of the posting by the "usual hate crew" is so misinformed and incorrect.

The company left the QF 9 & 10 for exclusive use by the Aus based crew and fools like QCC2 still blame the LHR base who have never touched these sectors.

Lets have a reply from QCC2 to explain the latest lie or sorry misinformed attack on LHR base.

But still ask to see QF9 & 10 against QF31 & 32 in the last 2 customer satisfaction survey's and I'll rest my case.
peanut pusher is offline  
Old 5th August 2005 | 05:51
  #79 (permalink)  
Registered User **
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,346
Likes: 0
From: The Ultimate Crew Rest....
Disciple of Dixon...sorry Peanut Pusher,

Again you keep talking about the figures published by the company !!!

The same people that told us the other day the only route making money was the J'Burg and we were only showing the flag on the JFK service and in fact it was losing money.!!!

If and it is a big IF they ever start telling us the truth then I might just believe them about the success of the LHR base

Peanut Pusher
An interesting question was posted before but it seems to have disappeared !!

What is your position as a CSM on crew drinks on the bus to the hotel?
lowerlobe is offline  
Old 5th August 2005 | 06:25
  #80 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
From: Sydney
I remember this issue about drinks on the crew bus some time ago and I have just read the newsletter on faaa.net about the crew bus being defined as company property (for security searches etc) therefore wouldnt it be against company regulation to consume alcohol on company property? Not being critical or anything just wondering thats all.
easternboy is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.