lowerlobe

The point is that on numerous occasions there have been far larger crew complements on LHR based crew aircraft than Australian based crew aircraft and then the company and vocal ones in LHR itself like Mr Doobee from the romper room base tell us that the feedback from the pax is great !!!

Well,if we had crew numbers like that our feedback would be great as well,in fact according to the company the LHR base was only one percentage point ahead with 3 and more crew on their aircraft.

With that many extra crew they should have been 10 to 15 % better.!!!I'm told that some of the flights had a crew complement up to 20 operating crew !!!

I would love to have an extra 2 or 3 crew on my flights to make not only the job easier but better service for the punters as well, but even with this assistance LHR crew still manage to forget a minor detail like a breakfast service !!!

Explain that one mr Doobee !!!

Of course the LHR base is a success ..about as much as the Charge of the Light Brigade

Bad Adventures

For Bid period 240 and possibly beyond the complement of Thai based crew operating on Frankfurt trips has been reduced form 4 to 1. These crew are needed to operate out of LHR base due to the high turnover of staff and current sick leave levels.

tow-truck

wan2fly..........

I have some advice for you!
If you find this thread "boring" the I suggest you go somewhere else.
Let others have their opinion, after all this is a "forum"

peanut pusher

Lets face it LHR and SYD are singing from differant hyme books and always will.

What ever I try to explain with fact its always rubbished by the hate crew.

I won't answer anymore untill lowerdown answers the great SIN jacket exchange and the $1000 challenge.

Please no more lies, the increased crew compliment is BKK positioning to LHR for reserve and has been only the last 4 weeks. Fact, No other sector

1%in Y/C maybe but look at J/C and P/C= Premium cabin 95% wow

Please hate crew feature your next attack with a grassy knoll, I love those conspiracy stories you dream up.

There has been 2 staff sacked and 1 resign in 6 months, please bad haircut facts only

marcstar

Well Well, looking on here at all being said! And yes I am on the INSIDE! But have been on the Outside too for many years!
And here are the facts to London base. A crew member was detained for a mistake a big one made on her part, ok what you have never beed drunk and done something stupid, and she will probally pay the price of that mistake,and yes and other girl in singapore had been out parting too, guess we dont do that either! Guess punch ups in hotels and stealing from the company are allowed in the longhaul division?? As for base closing mmmm its only been opened 6 months yes thats right and Australian Airlines is getting the A380 4 of them! (grin) Ok next hand over dont get me started i was in long haul what i used to get handed over to me was a joke from my Long haul colleges, and even now when we cross over what is handed over to us we should report, but we are better than that and know that mmmmmm maybe they were really busy or had a hard flight or had issues onboard, and not be a 3 year old and start to cry and tell!!! AND A QUESTION FOR YOU WHEN YOU STARTED WHAT YOU WERE THE GOD OF CREW AND KNEW EVERYTHING? Remember these guys are NEW thats right NEW CREW learning and we are teaching them and helping them to get to where we are now many years of service and hey i still am learning (17 years). so hey show some compassion or are you really a nasty ........ that hates all in life bad adventures?

tow-truck

marcstar, 17 years of flying and looks like you have learned nothing!
Yes I have been drunk and gone out in all my years but I have never been arrested nor have I vomited all over the foyer in SIngapore like the scrubbers did!
Basically I couldnt care less what kind of service the LHR crew gave, be it good or bad, the reason why I am against them is that they are a base that was setup solely for the purpose of destroying our conditions, and shame on the crew that went over there to help them set it up.

peanut pusher

The base was set up to save money to insure Qantas is around in another 10 years.

Would you like a list of Airlines with Lhr bases, Air NZ, Japan Airlines, United and China eastern reporting last week a LHR and BKK base is to opened this year.

This is not personal but business

lowerlobe

Peanutnob:

You still haven't looked in that mirror have you???

Give me a break,LHR base was set up to undermine Australian conditions first and foremost.We were and still are arguably the most profitable airline on the block.That was before Romper Room was set up and still is even though the set cost of LHR is rumoured to be at least 3 times the estimated start up cost and with all the other costs that they didn't think of.

If LHR was set up to save on accomodation and misc. costs why are they slipping you guys for 3 and 4 days in BKK,SIN and HKG...so much for that theory as well as the costs of the Thais slipping in LHR for 5 days at a time...gee that saves a heap doesn't it !!!

Have a look at the conditions you signed on for with LWOP...Did they guarantee you the same job in the same location when you get back..NO and as for why they will not pay their Australian obligation for superannuation is another matter...

Another beauty is question 3 on your application form:

Do you agree to legal changes at short notice to your rostering??

WTF does that mean? legal in what country and to what exactly

So don't give me any of that sanctimonious rubbish about ensuring QF's survivability,it is about Bonus's and undermining Australian crews conditions.

If you believe what the company tells you and you obviously do then you also probably believe in the tooth fairy and Santa as well.

As far as your infantile challenges,forget it.After reading your posts including your obscenity filled PM to me I trust you even less than I trust the company

peanut pusher

I'll post it if you wish, you pm me first then I responded with a way to finish this childish rubbish.

Show me one obsencity cry baby

Here is the PM for all to view

Another lie from lowerlobe


PM to Peanut Pusher
Your Intelligence or lack of.....
dear Gully Bull (Think about it !!)

I am saddened by your pathetic and limpwristed responses to our posts !!

It sounds as though the LHR base is more like Romper Room than a cabin crew base,you would believe that the easter bunny is real if it was told to you by management....PATHETIC...



Now Lowerlobe post my responce

marcstar

So toe truck, tell me how long you been flying? who with what divisions any other ground taining? MMMMM i took the base cause it was not going to be stopped and matey you did not i gather? So what you think if we had of said NO it would not have happened hey! You are not bright i see! and full of crap, Yes i go back to where i left off its in my contract, so get ya facts str8. My conditions i have 3 days off after a trip actually more, the reason for long slips is cause the flights are only 3 times a week, i think HNL MNL has a LONG SLIP too! I get the same time off you do in a out port 38 hrs and more i can be turned around, as for conditions if QF is makin so much money, have a look at what we take and what is left over after costs not even enough to buy 1 - 747.I am not supporting management sometimes it pisses me of too, but hey take it out on management not workers who are FA CSS CSM working for a company trying to earn a living and enjoy what they do.
peanut pusher!!

tow-truck

marcstar
hmmmmm, I think you should have a look at the previous posts, you are confusing some of my posts with the ones lowelobe and others have written.
And as far as not taking the LHR base, I never wanted to! there was NO way I was going to betray my fellow collegues, plus who would want to work from there when I have such a fantastic life here in Australia,
It amazes me how you LHR base people try and justify your job, there is a word for what you are all doing, sc@bs, pure and simple...in other words undermining your collegues working conditions.......
come on lets have some more of this management diatribe about cost saving.
Like I said before I don't blame any of the people that were hired in LHR , they dont know any better, but you lot that transferred from Australia to help set up this base are traitors.

How you can sleep at night is another amazing feat.

peanut pusher

Does the LHR base have the support of both FAAA unions ?
aaaah thats a big yes

Did the Qf LHR base in in the early 80's get this sort of crap thrown at it when crew from Aus. went up in 81, what about our Tokyo base did they cop this crap aswell ?

wan2fly

IM PAINFUL !!!

Are you kidding ???????? have a look at yourself and your past posts you take the biscuit mate !

wan2fly

You say !

wan2fly..........

I have some advice for you!
If you find this thread "boring" the I suggest you go somewhere else.
Let others have their opinion, after all this is a "forum"

I say - Its the same old same old - just going backward and forward ! - The base has opened no matter how much mud slinging is EVER gonna change it - I guess its time to face the facts and all...I am genuinely sorry you feel like this - but hey life goes on .....

We dont hear the JAL CX ANA UA ANZ crew harping on do we??

One question I do have is - when the LHR base crew meet up with Aus based crew down route, is this the way that you guys talk or greet them ?? - eg - "I wish the base would fail I wish it would close etc etc " - Is this what you guys say to the LHR crew ?? I really hope not - I have to admit I will be/would be gutted if you did.

str

wan2fly - if you meet Oz crew at the hotel you would be best to:

1 - Keep your mouth shut about being LHR based

2 - Cover up your blue ID card when your in uniform

and b4 you start going on about JAL CX ANA etc...etc... have a look at how they operate their bases and get some information on what a load of lying, cheating basta**s Qantas management are.

tow-truck

peanut pusher...........
No the LHR base does not have the support of the FAAA international div.

As far as the domestic division they have no choice, their president is currently on LWOP for 2 years up there being a CSM with you guys, but I can tell you this, the officials and domestic crew are not happy about it, have a look at their web page they even had to write a letter to placate their members.
Geez PP I thought you would have known about this.

Wan2fly, Like I said before I have nothing against the new ones that have been employed in LHR as they did not know any better.
However when I see an EX S/haul or L/haul on the crossover I will not greet them, they are traitors.

In the 80's the LHR base was an extension of operations in SYD on the same conditions and pay and union as SYD, actually the basing was well paid, and they were employed by QF not another company like QFUK.(No leave without pay, No contracts, you simply went to LHR for 1 or 2 years)

The Tokyo base was set up due to Japanese government requirements, and the pay scale for the flight attendants was 35%more than SYD, again better conditions.

You LHR traitors simply don't get it, The base in LHR was set up for one reason only, and that is the water down our conditions and you are helping them.

When the 2 year stint is finished (if it lasts that long) you will come crawling back here and whinge and whine to FAAA at how you have been treated.

peanut pusher

Another unfactual lie from the hate crew

Read your current EBA, its in black and white, the FAAA give unconditional support to the LHR base and got the consession access to LHR for Aus crew and a reduction in LHR base numbers.

Its on the FAAA website, I can post the link and page number if you wish.

FAAA S/H have given full support since day one and I did read the letter and that was to clear up leadership and inform union members of current union position. SH don't give a stuff about the LHR base they actually like it.

STR
Happy to meet you in any hotel bar or lobby, happy to stick my blue ID in your big mouth
Nice threat to want2fly ars_hole

You will be able to tell the LHR base, there the good looking, well groomed young ones. It should stand out quiet alot

surfside6

Good Lord with this sort of vitriol floating around no wonder pax loads ex LHR are way down.Virgin Atlantic is slaughtering QF on the LHR- HKG sector.This in turn leads to lower loads down to Sydney.QF just can`t compete...it has no "buzz".It is a tired dreary old airline being run into the ground by intellectually bankrupt clowns.
Dixon would make an excellent Ronald McDonald.
It just cant compete because management havent got a clue how to!!!
The LHR base is just another example of Dixons clueless attempts at management.He is doing a BoB Carr...leaving early before it all hits the fan.

lowerlobe

Peanutnob:

You are nuts !!!!(no pun intended)..you need help..

This is an exercise in futility , talking to you is like trying to have a rational discussion with an islamic fundamentalist. You will never listen to reason and I'm starting to worry about how stable you are.!!!

It's not me that people will have to worry about shooting someone as you suggested,it is you I'm worried about.

tow-truck

yes please PP, send me the link and then direct me to the exact line and paragraph where it states that the "FAAA fully supports the LHR base" in those words.
actually in where it states "unconditionally"

funny though, when I speak to them they have nothing but contempt for the ex long haul crew that are there.

Anyway show me the link.

Cheers ( as they scrubbers say)