The new Qantas uniform...who did the homework on this one?(merged)
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S T O P P R E S S ! ! !
I tried my uniform on for the first time the other night. Well. It isn't that bad. There I said it! Ughh! I never thought I'd be content but there you go.
Can I just say how great the shirts are. They are very crisp and tight and bring out a V shape I never knew I had. HUGE improvement over the current "tent" shirts. I am really happy with the shirts and the trousers were tailored exactly like the guy requested. Blood can flow past my thighs. Still a bit tight at the front though. Could be a good thing...
Saw a girl wearing the print dress and she looked marvilous! Really smart! Still not keen on the black funeral dress though. Also the cut of the girls' jackets and vests is really sharpe and professional. Quite stylish.
Now don't let all these positives lead you to think I am remotely pleased with the whole arrangement. Just making do I guess.
We walked past a guy with the Gay Bag / Qantas Esky over his sholder and our Tech Crew starting laughing. Guess it's a definate NO for that luggage piece then. Like there was ever any doubt!
On to a more serious point. I have accepted a dare to walk from Sign On to the aircraft wearing the jacket inside out - RSL style! Will keep you informed... Lets just hope it doesn't get me fired.
Sandgroper -
Hello! Wow! How are you? PM me. Tell me how things are going. You are in WA so they can't be that good.
Just kidding!
Chiney -
Go to the Qantas website and check it out. Let us know what you think.
Can I just say how great the shirts are. They are very crisp and tight and bring out a V shape I never knew I had. HUGE improvement over the current "tent" shirts. I am really happy with the shirts and the trousers were tailored exactly like the guy requested. Blood can flow past my thighs. Still a bit tight at the front though. Could be a good thing...
Saw a girl wearing the print dress and she looked marvilous! Really smart! Still not keen on the black funeral dress though. Also the cut of the girls' jackets and vests is really sharpe and professional. Quite stylish.
Now don't let all these positives lead you to think I am remotely pleased with the whole arrangement. Just making do I guess.
We walked past a guy with the Gay Bag / Qantas Esky over his sholder and our Tech Crew starting laughing. Guess it's a definate NO for that luggage piece then. Like there was ever any doubt!
On to a more serious point. I have accepted a dare to walk from Sign On to the aircraft wearing the jacket inside out - RSL style! Will keep you informed... Lets just hope it doesn't get me fired.
Sandgroper -
Hello! Wow! How are you? PM me. Tell me how things are going. You are in WA so they can't be that good.
Just kidding!Chiney -
Go to the Qantas website and check it out. Let us know what you think.
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I just went to the Brisbane Morrissey store and they wouldn't give me anymore then 10% off with my staff ID!!!! - so unfair lol! do they give better discounts at other stores?
arghhh!
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GalleyHag -
I don't think our boys miss wearing those hats actually...
Seriously I was describing the Esky bag to them at sign on the day before and I they laughed moreso because of my carry on rather than what the guy looked like. He was far in the distance and we did not laugh aloud or make fun of anyone (or in front of him, as you put it). It was just a giggle at associating the day bag to my banter the day before (ask Mr Seatback - I have a bit of a routine re. the Esky bag and it is quite comical). And yes it does look a little silly being carried around by guys. Others here agree. I wasn't paying out on him for using it (as we are supposed to) and you are right there is no other choice for guys. Maybe the powers that be should have thought about it a bit more.
It was all in good humour. No harm meant to anyone. Peace Out!
As far as bitchy comments go... What has a pilot's uniform got to do with their sense of humour? Care to elaborate?
Biscuit -
There isn't anything about wearing the jacket inside out in the Runway guide and you couldn't blame me for thinking it was reversable! I think I'd have a strong arguement for my 'error' in this case
I don't think our boys miss wearing those hats actually...
Seriously I was describing the Esky bag to them at sign on the day before and I they laughed moreso because of my carry on rather than what the guy looked like. He was far in the distance and we did not laugh aloud or make fun of anyone (or in front of him, as you put it). It was just a giggle at associating the day bag to my banter the day before (ask Mr Seatback - I have a bit of a routine re. the Esky bag and it is quite comical). And yes it does look a little silly being carried around by guys. Others here agree. I wasn't paying out on him for using it (as we are supposed to) and you are right there is no other choice for guys. Maybe the powers that be should have thought about it a bit more.
It was all in good humour. No harm meant to anyone. Peace Out!
As far as bitchy comments go... What has a pilot's uniform got to do with their sense of humour? Care to elaborate?
Biscuit -
There isn't anything about wearing the jacket inside out in the Runway guide and you couldn't blame me for thinking it was reversable! I think I'd have a strong arguement for my 'error' in this case
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GalleyHag -
I have already stated that it was a quiet giggle and was not in ANY way directed at the guy himself. He was about 20 metres away and would have been oblivious to it all as we were facing another direction. No one heard anything we said or the slight giggle we may have let slip. It was all harmless and mostly realting to a previous joke. It was most discrete I swear.
My wording in the first instance ("walkked past and laughed...") was incorrect and I can understand your comments. However I corrected myself and you still choose to argue the point. Why?
I am sorry if I have offended you. No intent was there to annoy you or anyone else. Just a bit of humour as it seems the common vibe of this thread.
Please do not be so negative toward me. It is unwarrented. Your last post was quite personal and I would ask you to refrain from making such comments. You are in no position to judge me.
Please be nice. You will find I am quite a nice person should you ever wish to care.
Once again, my apologies.
ditzyboy
I have already stated that it was a quiet giggle and was not in ANY way directed at the guy himself. He was about 20 metres away and would have been oblivious to it all as we were facing another direction. No one heard anything we said or the slight giggle we may have let slip. It was all harmless and mostly realting to a previous joke. It was most discrete I swear.
My wording in the first instance ("walkked past and laughed...") was incorrect and I can understand your comments. However I corrected myself and you still choose to argue the point. Why?
I am sorry if I have offended you. No intent was there to annoy you or anyone else. Just a bit of humour as it seems the common vibe of this thread.
Please do not be so negative toward me. It is unwarrented. Your last post was quite personal and I would ask you to refrain from making such comments. You are in no position to judge me.
Please be nice. You will find I am quite a nice person should you ever wish to care.
Once again, my apologies.
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GalleyHag
Whatever Ditzy says he means in the full spirit of humour - no malice is ever intended by Ditzy (only every now and then - but not normally on PPRUNE).
I'm the first to jump to his defence because I know exactly what he meant by his statement re: laughing at the guy with the day bag...as you would be aware, this thread mocks the administration and in some cases the design of the uniform. Ditzy's routine with the day bag is nothing short of priceless, and dare I say the briefing was a comedic affair with him involved!
If Ditz ever makes fun of anyone, it's generally himself!
You say:
It actually sounds like you care a lot - I'm sure Ditzy didn't mean to touch a nerve in that regard. Chill doll!
Too late dear - already happens! But our kids don't mind (those hats are a ****** on windy days!)
All a bit of harmless fun GH...
Whatever Ditzy says he means in the full spirit of humour - no malice is ever intended by Ditzy (only every now and then - but not normally on PPRUNE).
I'm the first to jump to his defence because I know exactly what he meant by his statement re: laughing at the guy with the day bag...as you would be aware, this thread mocks the administration and in some cases the design of the uniform. Ditzy's routine with the day bag is nothing short of priceless, and dare I say the briefing was a comedic affair with him involved!
If Ditz ever makes fun of anyone, it's generally himself!
You say:
Who really cares quite frankly I have better things to do than walk around laughing at other people and putting on "shows".
I dont think your tech crew would appreciate it very much regardless of the reason if when other crew walked past them they started laughing at their uniform.
All a bit of harmless fun GH...
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Sorry to take this topic a tad of track, but has anyone tried to wash the new uniform yet?
I noticed that in the runway guide it is only "recommended" to dryclean certain pieces.
I used to machine wash ALL of the old one, including the jacket. And it lasted fine.
Considering that Q-link staff have to pay for the articals to be drycleaned, I am much more inclined to machine wash what I can. Much easier and saves some $$$.
Against runway recommendations I have the black dress whirling away in the machine as I type, so figers crossed that it will still be wearable.
And for what its worth, I am looking forward to changing the handbag to the QF esky. 2 days with that handbag and it drove me crazy. Its way too small!
I noticed that in the runway guide it is only "recommended" to dryclean certain pieces.
I used to machine wash ALL of the old one, including the jacket. And it lasted fine.
Considering that Q-link staff have to pay for the articals to be drycleaned, I am much more inclined to machine wash what I can. Much easier and saves some $$$.
Against runway recommendations I have the black dress whirling away in the machine as I type, so figers crossed that it will still be wearable.
And for what its worth, I am looking forward to changing the handbag to the QF esky. 2 days with that handbag and it drove me crazy. Its way too small!
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I would be very careful with what you do with your new uniform.
From good sources I believe the new one will no longer be 'replace as required' as the last one was. You will be allowed a set issue per year (not a full exchange). And anything above and beyond (ie poor care of the uniform, accidents etc) you will have to pay for the replacements. And they are expensive !
Remember it is your, not the company's, responsibility to keep the uniform in good knick !
It may be worth the few dollars it takes to dryclean the uniform.
We are fortunate at longhaul, thankfully QF still do all of our uniform drycleaning for us for free ! But then again, we dont get the allowance!
I would be very careful with what you do with your new uniform.
From good sources I believe the new one will no longer be 'replace as required' as the last one was. You will be allowed a set issue per year (not a full exchange). And anything above and beyond (ie poor care of the uniform, accidents etc) you will have to pay for the replacements. And they are expensive !
Remember it is your, not the company's, responsibility to keep the uniform in good knick !
It may be worth the few dollars it takes to dryclean the uniform.
We are fortunate at longhaul, thankfully QF still do all of our uniform drycleaning for us for free ! But then again, we dont get the allowance!
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Right - that's done it...
The only person being dramatic right now is your good self GalleyHag.
From your posts, it has become clear (despite your protestations) that what Ditzy said originally upset you in some manner. And despite his apologies and assertions that he never meant to cause offence, you have continued with the topic - emphasising on at least one occasion that you don't care (when it is abundantly clear that you do!)
Secondly...
Cloud Nine is not a child...she doesn't need to be addressed as one.
Cloud Nine I will make you aware is very aware of what to do with a uniform allowance. Sadly, given that she's lucky to make $28K per year living in Sydney, that uniform allowance goes towards making ends meet. Sure - no one held a gun to her head to take the job, but what? She's supposed to sacrifice what living she can make from performing a job she obviously enjoys for the sake of using her allowances in the manner they're supposed to be used?!
Very few crew that I know of (in all divisions) apportion expenditure solely based upon the allowances they receive (and limit expenditure as such!)
Impulse crew, by comparison, receive a grooming allowance as part of the annualised salary - so, in reality, it's not really an allowance as such (since it's part of the salary - arranged to take up the $24K base salary to a more liveable $35K from the Air Crews arrangement)...Comparatively, we receive a $17 allowance per fortnight Shoe Allowance...does this mean by applying your logic GalleyHag that we purchase a pair of shoes each fortnight at $17? After all this is the reason we are supplied with $17 allowance...using your own words "Why not utilise it, it is given to you for a reason".
Link crew are not provided the benefit nor privilege of using a company contracted dry cleaner for the purposes of maintaining our uniform. Eastern and Sunnies are paid a grooming allowance (inclusive of laundering), but this is simply a means to bulk up what is otherwise a very low payscale compared with other industries (and indeed, other divisions...but we won't go there).
I'm tired and emotional right now, and sick to death of responses like "I don't really care about what you have to say...but I really do, so I'll just carry on and disregard what you have to say Ditzy".
I don't pretend nor have I ever pretended to be the expert on all things QF, flying or the like - neither should you GalleyHag.
UpperDeckRight...
I agree with you on the responsibility of the individual to maintain the uniform - but when QF fails to offer Link Crew either the service (ie. free drycleaning) or the means (ie. increased drycleaning allowance, resulting from increased requirement to dryclean this new uniform) to crew to do it, what then? Something has to give - QF cannot have it all their own way all the time.
I'm sure if the Eastern and Sunnies kids could afford to dryclean their uniform all the time, they gladly would! However, given that in the first instance the Link Crew are not provided with the same number of uniform pieces as other divisions (eg. 5 shirts to operate a 6 day run, 1 blazer, etc), the likelihood of having the time off to actually dry clean these items in time for the next run is often very little if at all! So the point is a moot one in reality!
The only person being dramatic right now is your good self GalleyHag.
From your posts, it has become clear (despite your protestations) that what Ditzy said originally upset you in some manner. And despite his apologies and assertions that he never meant to cause offence, you have continued with the topic - emphasising on at least one occasion that you don't care (when it is abundantly clear that you do!)
Secondly...
Cloud Nine
Are you not given a uniform allowance? Why not utilise it, it is given to you for a reason.
Are you not given a uniform allowance? Why not utilise it, it is given to you for a reason.
Cloud Nine I will make you aware is very aware of what to do with a uniform allowance. Sadly, given that she's lucky to make $28K per year living in Sydney, that uniform allowance goes towards making ends meet. Sure - no one held a gun to her head to take the job, but what? She's supposed to sacrifice what living she can make from performing a job she obviously enjoys for the sake of using her allowances in the manner they're supposed to be used?!
Very few crew that I know of (in all divisions) apportion expenditure solely based upon the allowances they receive (and limit expenditure as such!)
Impulse crew, by comparison, receive a grooming allowance as part of the annualised salary - so, in reality, it's not really an allowance as such (since it's part of the salary - arranged to take up the $24K base salary to a more liveable $35K from the Air Crews arrangement)...Comparatively, we receive a $17 allowance per fortnight Shoe Allowance...does this mean by applying your logic GalleyHag that we purchase a pair of shoes each fortnight at $17? After all this is the reason we are supplied with $17 allowance...using your own words "Why not utilise it, it is given to you for a reason".
Link crew are not provided the benefit nor privilege of using a company contracted dry cleaner for the purposes of maintaining our uniform. Eastern and Sunnies are paid a grooming allowance (inclusive of laundering), but this is simply a means to bulk up what is otherwise a very low payscale compared with other industries (and indeed, other divisions...but we won't go there).
I'm tired and emotional right now, and sick to death of responses like "I don't really care about what you have to say...but I really do, so I'll just carry on and disregard what you have to say Ditzy".
I don't pretend nor have I ever pretended to be the expert on all things QF, flying or the like - neither should you GalleyHag.
UpperDeckRight...
I agree with you on the responsibility of the individual to maintain the uniform - but when QF fails to offer Link Crew either the service (ie. free drycleaning) or the means (ie. increased drycleaning allowance, resulting from increased requirement to dryclean this new uniform) to crew to do it, what then? Something has to give - QF cannot have it all their own way all the time.
I'm sure if the Eastern and Sunnies kids could afford to dryclean their uniform all the time, they gladly would! However, given that in the first instance the Link Crew are not provided with the same number of uniform pieces as other divisions (eg. 5 shirts to operate a 6 day run, 1 blazer, etc), the likelihood of having the time off to actually dry clean these items in time for the next run is often very little if at all! So the point is a moot one in reality!
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Whoever dreamt this little smorgasbord up obviously has the inside track with GD.
I can't think of any other way that Australia could advertise iteslf in a less flattering manner.
Thank God for the eye-blinkers on the old DT!
I can't think of any other way that Australia could advertise iteslf in a less flattering manner.
Thank God for the eye-blinkers on the old DT!
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I've heard other crews comments on the new uniform and most comments were very good, btw did anyone buy or try any of the Morrissey underwear? i heard they were quite plain?
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GalleyHag -
Congratulations. You have upset me. Well done. There are so many words I woud love to call you but it is a family show. How about one that rhymes with "runt"?
I'll let you figure it out. Really. How dare you?
Congratulations. You have upset me. Well done. There are so many words I woud love to call you but it is a family show. How about one that rhymes with "runt"?
I'll let you figure it out. Really. How dare you?
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Galleyhag
This topic started out as just a bit of fun, it was by no means intended to step on any ones toes and offened.
At the end of the day we all do the same job, we all wear the same uniform ( drycleaned or machine washed!), and we all make money for Mr Dixon.
I am sure that you do not scrutinize your colleague's opinions and ideas in the cabin, so please try not to be so quick to do it here.
You were an EAA FA once, so I would have thought that you would have perfectly understood the notion behind me asking the question regarding drycleaning V's machine washing.
It really was not a big deal, just a question thats all.
Oh....
And BTW Dr Phill....you can rest easy tonight- My dress survived and looks as good as it did when I first opened the box!
This topic started out as just a bit of fun, it was by no means intended to step on any ones toes and offened.
At the end of the day we all do the same job, we all wear the same uniform ( drycleaned or machine washed!), and we all make money for Mr Dixon.
I am sure that you do not scrutinize your colleague's opinions and ideas in the cabin, so please try not to be so quick to do it here.
You were an EAA FA once, so I would have thought that you would have perfectly understood the notion behind me asking the question regarding drycleaning V's machine washing.
It really was not a big deal, just a question thats all.
Oh....
And BTW Dr Phill....you can rest easy tonight- My dress survived and looks as good as it did when I first opened the box!
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Galley Hag,
What's with the attitude, darls? A quick tip - you need to tone it down a little. (It is that bad you can pick it up on other posts, as well!) Boy, you can turn like a black snake.
Now, you wouldnt be that rude whilst in the cabin, would you? 
Feel the looOOOOooove, babe.
What's with the attitude, darls? A quick tip - you need to tone it down a little. (It is that bad you can pick it up on other posts, as well!) Boy, you can turn like a black snake.
Now, you wouldnt be that rude whilst in the cabin, would you?
Feel the looOOOOooove, babe.
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Tea/Coffee -
Welcome to Pprune. You will find that we are (for the most part) nice people with lots of advice and experiences to share and have a pretty good time.
Sometimes people set out to upset and intimidate others. They usually get shot down. Civility and a good sense of humour will only ever get the same returned (from most of us).
Start a new thread about yourself. Tell us how good you are. State your business!
Welcome to Pprune. You will find that we are (for the most part) nice people with lots of advice and experiences to share and have a pretty good time.
Sometimes people set out to upset and intimidate others. They usually get shot down. Civility and a good sense of humour will only ever get the same returned (from most of us).
Start a new thread about yourself. Tell us how good you are. State your business!
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I often do have to wonder why it is that when certain characters just disappeared off the pprune planet, that we then get new characters that appear on here?
Tea_coffee_me, not for a moment do I believe that you are a so called newby. Why would your first and only post be making a comment as such?
Pprune is only made bitchy by a select few that enter these forums looking for a bustle or flurry. They are easy to spot, but most people let them get away with far too much buffoonery, before they are well put in their place.
Tea_coffee_me, not for a moment do I believe that you are a so called newby. Why would your first and only post be making a comment as such?
Pprune is only made bitchy by a select few that enter these forums looking for a bustle or flurry. They are easy to spot, but most people let them get away with far too much buffoonery, before they are well put in their place.
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You blow me away GALLEYHAG
Galleyhag!
Cloudnine & Qwannas and everyone else that commented, I totally agree with you!
This forum is supposed to be a light hearted information session with the occasional dispute.
I dont ever recall you being like this in the crew room!
Why is it now that you feel its OK to be affronting and down right truculent!
A simple disagreement with another member is fine but you go off the deep end, I am not only talking about this topic!
Girl you've got issues...... sort them out!
(Can't wait to see what abuse she has in store for me in her next outburst....... LOL)
Back to the topic, I also, when I eventually get the uniform will try my hand at machine washing them.......
I shall keep you posted on the ETA of the uniform, so far I've been given 'in the next couple of weeks' and that was yesterday!
Cheers,
pushback747
Cloudnine & Qwannas and everyone else that commented, I totally agree with you!
This forum is supposed to be a light hearted information session with the occasional dispute.
I dont ever recall you being like this in the crew room!
Why is it now that you feel its OK to be affronting and down right truculent!
A simple disagreement with another member is fine but you go off the deep end, I am not only talking about this topic!
Girl you've got issues...... sort them out!
(Can't wait to see what abuse she has in store for me in her next outburst....... LOL)
Back to the topic, I also, when I eventually get the uniform will try my hand at machine washing them.......
I shall keep you posted on the ETA of the uniform, so far I've been given 'in the next couple of weeks' and that was yesterday!
Cheers,
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Now this topic has taken a serious turn for the worst.
Galleyhag, can I firstly say to you, that there are many mainline FA's that make contributing posts to this forum. We are not all Qlink FA's. Many are, but not all from the same subsidary. I'd have to say we have around an even number of posters that contribute that are from EAA, Sunnies and Impulse too.
So with that information, please be aware that we are not all joined at the hip, and trying to pick on you or anyone else, as you are lead to belive.
This is a public forum, open to anyone who chooses to use it. I do not feel that anyone makes out like they own this site in the slightest.
Everyone that uses this forum is always open for a good debate on any topic that comes up. It's human instinct that we all do not agree on every topic that is discussed, and sure, it definatley does not hurt to voice your thoughts and ideas. But when that is done, you have to remember that others will become quarrelsome if you take a certain tone in your posts.
Know one has said that you never offer informative information. You have done so in the past, but there has been many other times when you have been down right aggresive to others also. Even after they have appoligised to you, you have still kept the belittling going on. And thats clearly when others have then commented on what has been posted.
Galleyhag, can I firstly say to you, that there are many mainline FA's that make contributing posts to this forum. We are not all Qlink FA's. Many are, but not all from the same subsidary. I'd have to say we have around an even number of posters that contribute that are from EAA, Sunnies and Impulse too.
So with that information, please be aware that we are not all joined at the hip, and trying to pick on you or anyone else, as you are lead to belive.
This is a public forum, open to anyone who chooses to use it. I do not feel that anyone makes out like they own this site in the slightest.
Everyone that uses this forum is always open for a good debate on any topic that comes up. It's human instinct that we all do not agree on every topic that is discussed, and sure, it definatley does not hurt to voice your thoughts and ideas. But when that is done, you have to remember that others will become quarrelsome if you take a certain tone in your posts.
Know one has said that you never offer informative information. You have done so in the past, but there has been many other times when you have been down right aggresive to others also. Even after they have appoligised to you, you have still kept the belittling going on. And thats clearly when others have then commented on what has been posted.
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I echo Cloud Nines response wholeheartedly.
I do know which thread you're referring to where we (the link chicks) 'attacked' another member...IN fact, we actually QUESTIONED the logic and statements this member was taking. If there were any attacks made, then why wasn't the thread shut down?
It just so happens (as you have aluded to in other posts) that Link Chicks know a great deal more about what goes on in another subsidiaries (including mainline) because we have to! Failure to understand what's going on around you only comes to bite you on the butt come next EBA negotiations!
Most of us know the goings on every other airlines' EBA, in addition to conditions of employment, etc. so that we are better able to make our own workplaces reach their standard. Conversely, however, there is occasionally respresentations made in this forum by mainline members who DO NOT appreciate us knowing as much (if not more) than they do...that is when we get rather heated. I must stress that these individuals are often in the minority, and not the majority that grace this forum regularly.
As much as we all appreciate your efforts to distribute information to others, may I request you do so in future without being spiteful, rude and just plain obnoxious? It is this behaviour that upsets us - particularly when you have a go at one of the Link Chicks.
Live and let learn babe. Feel the love.
Oh and by the way Galleyhag (having just read your rather ironic reply)
You've been pretty aggressive since the word go in the forum, so check your own backyard before you go throwing snails in others.
I echo Cloud Nines response wholeheartedly.
I do know which thread you're referring to where we (the link chicks) 'attacked' another member...IN fact, we actually QUESTIONED the logic and statements this member was taking. If there were any attacks made, then why wasn't the thread shut down?
It just so happens (as you have aluded to in other posts) that Link Chicks know a great deal more about what goes on in another subsidiaries (including mainline) because we have to! Failure to understand what's going on around you only comes to bite you on the butt come next EBA negotiations!
Most of us know the goings on every other airlines' EBA, in addition to conditions of employment, etc. so that we are better able to make our own workplaces reach their standard. Conversely, however, there is occasionally respresentations made in this forum by mainline members who DO NOT appreciate us knowing as much (if not more) than they do...that is when we get rather heated. I must stress that these individuals are often in the minority, and not the majority that grace this forum regularly.
As much as we all appreciate your efforts to distribute information to others, may I request you do so in future without being spiteful, rude and just plain obnoxious? It is this behaviour that upsets us - particularly when you have a go at one of the Link Chicks.
Live and let learn babe. Feel the love.
Oh and by the way Galleyhag (having just read your rather ironic reply)
You've been pretty aggressive since the word go in the forum, so check your own backyard before you go throwing snails in others.