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pifpafpouf 12th October 2021 09:55

I’m not aware of anything so it’s just educated guess to take with a grain of salt.

Interviews still ongoing today, I expect an answer anytime between this eve and the end of the week after NJE review kura’s.

My guess is that they keep people on standby in case they don’t pass enough at this stage and do another round of interviews. they also mentioned (possible) extra sim/face2face dates (so phase 3) which I guess will depend on how many are successful during phase 3 on last week of October.

If the numbers I’ve seen are correct, they plan on hiring quite a lot of people, I wouldn’t be surprised another round is being planned for. From what I understood first courses are for december, but with notices and glitches It could totally keep going all of Q1 2022.

again purely speculative rumours

TheAirMission 12th October 2021 12:09


Originally Posted by pifpafpouf (Post 11125198)

If the numbers I’ve seen are correct, they plan on hiring quite a lot of people, I wouldn’t be surprised another round is being planned for. From what I understood first courses are for december, but with notices and glitches It could totally keep going all of Q1 2022.

again purely speculative rumours

My interviewer told me that start dates will probably be offered until at least May when it comes job offers, so a successful applicant doesn't have to be rushed onto a course if someone has a notice period.

pilotarosa 12th October 2021 12:54


Originally Posted by Globally Challenged (Post 11124308)
Not true. Currently you are either on a UK contract or Portuguese (only for those actually based there I think). The figures quoted are pre-tax.

Each country seems to be a bit different. I can only speak about UK bases but our per-diems are now mostly taxed which is obviously annoying.

So it comes down to the double taxation rules between the UK and your gateway.

It’s a hot topic with the union right now and I suspect EU contracts are on the horizon finally as I think it will be mandated by law soon.

Our Dutch and Danish colleagues are particularly badly hit by this currently.

I am one of the old timers in NJE. European base,UK contract as everyone else who is not based in Lisbon. We get a NT code from HRMC, as our economic employer is in Lisbon. Then from the salary the company deduct the Portuguese non resident taxes. Portugal has double taxation agreement with most countries where we are gatewayed. In my case I do a tax declaration in Italy and pay the difference if there is any (normally not from the salary). Per Diem are 70 euros tax free. I suggest to not count per Diem as part of your salary, but as pocket money for when u are on tour. N.I. I still pay it in UK but the grandfather rights will finish soon and will need to choose where to pay it.

Let410BF 12th October 2021 14:02

Good afternoon all,
have anyone who did the online interview with Kura received feedback on the result?
Thanks

tripjet320 12th October 2021 14:34

Hi there,

does someone know if you can be homebased at Nice, France ?
Cheers.

pifpafpouf 12th October 2021 16:14


Originally Posted by tripjet320 (Post 11125368)
Hi there,

does someone know if you can be homebased at Nice, France ?
Cheers.

Not in the new base list.

Email received for stage 3 btw

pilotarosa 12th October 2021 16:51


Originally Posted by tripjet320 (Post 11125368)
Hi there,

does someone know if you can be homebased at Nice, France ?
Cheers.

No, but u can play with the temp gateway systems. Lots of us do live in very weird places

mtowswede 12th October 2021 16:59

E-mail received here as well for stage 3. However the booking applications shows "no times available" 2hrs after the invite came. Anyone else up with the same issue?

pifpafpouf 12th October 2021 17:17

There were 48 slots avail for that week, guess they went locked up pretty quick.

The ones who couldn’t book probably will get offered another week, along with the ones who can’t attend that week for personal/professional reasons.

it also looked weird to me that so few slots were offered considering the amount of positions to be filled.

I also wonder if some will be offered interview (stage 2) dates in the upcoming future, as it would make sense based on raw numbers,

again, rumour and salt

edit : seems like some dates are being offered in November

mtowswede 12th October 2021 17:25


Originally Posted by pifpafpouf (Post 11125478)
There were 48 slots avail for that week, guess they went locked up pretty fast.

The ones who couldn’t book probably will get offered another week, along with the ones who can’t attend that week for personal/professional reasons.

it also looked weird to me that so few slots were offered considering the amount of positions to be filled.

I also wonder if some will be offered interview (stage 2) dates in the upcoming future, as it would make sense based on raw numbers,

again, rumour and salt

edit : seems like some dates are being offered in November

Thanks for the info. Will have to wait and see what Kura says.

tripjet320 13th October 2021 07:15

Thank you !

tripjet320 13th October 2021 07:16

Could you give an example ?
Thanks a lot.

funkydreadlocks 13th October 2021 20:59


Originally Posted by pilotarosa (Post 11125453)
No, but u can play with the temp gateway systems. Lots of us do live in very weird places

could you please clarify? in my Kura Zoom interview I was told that we're expected to move to within 1h of a gateway airport and can't just stay at a nearby hotel or something the day before or during standbies. I just want to know if there's any chance of me staying in the area I'm in if I get the job or not, because my offer on a house just got accepted and I would like to mentally prepare to potentially disappoint the sellers :hmm:

KAISERSOZE 13th October 2021 21:49

You need to live wthin 1hr of your gateway.
So you need to give an address that match this requirement.

If you want to spend all your OFF days in Bangkok, it's up to you.

funkydreadlocks 14th October 2021 07:24


Originally Posted by KAISERSOZE (Post 11126066)
You need to live wthin 1hr of your gateway.
So you need to give an address that match this requirement.

If you want to spend all your OFF days in Bangkok, it's up to you.

I figured as much. Thanks! I'm not one for pushing the rules to their limits, so someone will end up disappointed when I get a response after stage 3, one way or the other!

jmvdb22 14th October 2021 12:10


Originally Posted by funkydreadlocks (Post 11126045)
could you please clarify? in my Kura Zoom interview I was told that we're expected to move to within 1h of a gateway airport and can't just stay at a nearby hotel or something the day before or during standbies.

Does anyone know where this rule comes from/what there reasoning behind it is and how strict the 1 hour is?
I can see why they want you near the airport on your duty days, but why wouldn't a hotel be good enough?
I'm currently about 1.20h from a gateway, so would this be okay or would I need to move closer?

winterOPS 14th October 2021 12:22

As I recall it, the Buffalo Dash accident might kind of be the origin of it.
Commuting pilots planning it to tight with travels so the rest before a duty is not respected (nurtured....)

funkydreadlocks 14th October 2021 12:34

Maybe a NJ pilots can correct me on this, but I figure that NJ is protecting itself from EASA/local authorities by having something on record showing that they did their due diligence in ensuring that pilots are respecting FTLs when it comes to commuting. I get it tbh, even though that would be somewhat inconvenient to many pilots (including myself to a small extent). But it's not really the time to focus on that now. We first have to get through stage 3! NJ really looks like a fantastic place to work at. I'm trying very hard not to get too excited but failing to do so. I guess I need to apply that excess energy to prepping.

pilotarosa 14th October 2021 12:40


Originally Posted by funkydreadlocks (Post 11126045)
could you please clarify? in my Kura Zoom interview I was told that we're expected to move to within 1h of a gateway airport and can't just stay at a nearby hotel or something the day before or during standbies. I just want to know if there's any chance of me staying in the area I'm in if I get the job or not, because my offer on a house just got accepted and I would like to mentally prepare to potentially disappoint the sellers :hmm:

We have temporary gateway, like I live in Italy when it suits me (my official gateway) when it doesn't I move to Spain or the Netherlands using temporary gateway. You just need to send an email 3 days before starting or finishing your tour. Sometimes I start somewhere, finishing somewhere else. U can use it also to go on holidays. Our commuting time is FD btw.

pilotarosa 14th October 2021 12:42


Originally Posted by winterOPS (Post 11126331)
As I recall it, the Buffalo Dash accident might kind of be the origin of it.
Commuting pilots planning it to tight with travels so the rest before a duty is not respected (nurtured....)

In 14 years I never started a tour with someone tired....maybe bored from too many days off, but not tired 😁

funkydreadlocks 14th October 2021 13:32


Originally Posted by pilotarosa (Post 11126341)
Our commuting time is FD btw.

Interesting. Does it default to one hour or are pilots meant to report it? I guess with airline flying duty time was never an issue, only flight duty time.

Edit: shortening quote to make question more relevant

buzzc152 14th October 2021 14:12

The one hour rule comes from the standby requirements : if you are on home standby and you are called out you have 45 mins from the phone call to prep and leave the house and then 1 hour drive to the airport ie 1hr45 mins total. Exactly where on the airport you have to get to isn’t clear …..car park, checkin desk, FBO ?? However, in 14 years I have never once been called with minimum 1h.45. If you live 1.20 away then I wouldn’t sweat it too much.

binzer 14th October 2021 18:06

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This is straight out of the omA. With relation to Gateways they are only active on first day during and last day of tour. Outside of them days you can do what you like. Now how you sweet talk Netjets is your decision. Friend family crappy shoebox or something will do if you need to say you live near your gateway. Generally they are quiet flexible, but living in Plymouth and using heathrow might not help your cause.

TheFatViking 15th October 2021 10:57

Has anyone gotten to know more precisely when the first induction course would start? And how would you guys prepare for the stage 3?

Also, about the gateway system and temporary gateways, is it fair to say that something like this scenario might work: Homebase CPH, temporary base in ARN during the winter (120 days) and south of spain during the summer? That would equal to all my time (basically) being out of CPH as long as vacation etc is calculated in? Or would that be pushing it with NJE?

GoatriderClassic 15th October 2021 17:20

Recieved PFO this afternoon.

Sky95 15th October 2021 18:58


Originally Posted by GoatriderClassic (Post 11127071)
Recieved PFO this afternoon.

At what stage did you get?

GoatriderClassic 15th October 2021 19:24


Originally Posted by Sky95 (Post 11127107)
At what stage did you get?

After the psychometric assessment.

level_change 15th October 2021 20:04

Anyone with no prior corporate experience moved to the next interview stage recently?

TheAirMission 15th October 2021 20:44


Originally Posted by level_change (Post 11127137)
Anyone with no prior corporate experience moved to the next interview stage recently?

Yes I have

pilotarosa 16th October 2021 09:08


Originally Posted by TheFatViking (Post 11126840)
Also, about the gateway system and temporary gateways, is it fair to say that something like this scenario might work: Homebase CPH, temporary base in ARN during the winter (120 days) and south of spain during the summer? That would equal to all my time (basically) being out of CPH as long as vacation etc is calculated in? Or would that be pushing it with NJE?

yes ,but could get better. Once you are in I am sure someone will tell you how to maximize your 120 days to perfection 😃

Le Schtroumpf Pilote 16th October 2021 12:25

Hi Everyone!
First thank you for those who kindly post information about the selection process over here, it has been very useful for me.
I can confirm that the online tests are CUT-e, and can be worked on pilotest.com

I just booked for the Zoom interview on Monday. Any-one knows what to expect from this meeting? Any specific questions?

funkydreadlocks 16th October 2021 23:55


Originally Posted by Le Schtroumpf Pilote (Post 11127456)
Hi Everyone!
First thank you for those who kindly post information about the selection process over here, it has been very useful for me.
I can confirm that the online tests are CUT-e, and can be worked on pilotest.com

I just booked for the Zoom interview on Monday. Any-one knows what to expect from this meeting? Any specific questions?

Typical competency based questions (Tell me about a time when...)​ with minor twists. Review STAR method of answering questions and how to demonstrate pilot competencies as you do that (communication, leadership, technical and pocedural knowledge, *customer service*, etc).

Usual opening questions you might expect from the interview as well as questions about your understanding of the role itself.

Make sure to have all your docs with for verification.​​​​​​

funkydreadlocks 16th October 2021 23:58

For NJ pilots, I have another random question: What is the grooming policy around beards? My previous company allowed beards as long as you were well groomed and you didn't allow it to grow too long.

EatMyShorts! 17th October 2021 10:14

No big issues there, as long as you look well groomed.

Le Schtroumpf Pilote 17th October 2021 11:03

Thank you for the answer!!

I didn't know the STAR method, I will have a read about it today!

rhs4life 17th October 2021 13:09

Hi everyone!

I come from a low-cost airline flying background so apart from the odd passenger announcement we didn't really get involved with pax. So, apart from loading the owners luggage, what else would one do daily at NetJets that is different from typical airline operations? Furthermore, apart from greeting the owner and saying goodbye; in what ways are the pilots involved in providing great customer service?

Thank you in advance!

redsnail 17th October 2021 17:49

Great customer service, let's see.
Pilots brief the Owners about the safety aspects of the aircraft, eg doors etc. introduce themselves and their colleagues, Inform them of the length of flight, any bumps or weather issues, check their onward transport details, tell them about the wifi.
If on an unattended fleet, show where the food and drinks are, and if time before departure, make a coffee/serve the champagne etc. If attended, introduce our ISR/CC.
If unattended, at FL100 or above, close the sonic curtain (if you have one), check the Owner is ok, Some Owners are very chatty, others, not so much... Cabin temp ok, wifi working, etc On Descent, inform how long to run, weather at destination and transport details.
Also before FL100, open the sonic curtain, tidy up the cabin in preparation for landing, stow loose items, confirm if the transport is in place etc.

Post flight, one will usually go with the Owners to their cars/FBO. Ensure all is well. Grab the paper work/fresh wx & Notams. The other will sweep the cabin for phones, wallets etc.

Then we tidy up the cabin, check the plan for the day hasn't changed. Arrange fuel, toilet service, restock and vacuum the carpets, clean every thing, check the ipads are charged etc.
Grab some food, plan for the next flight.

rhs4life 17th October 2021 21:07

That's really insightful! I appreciate it :) Thank you redsnail !

EatMyShorts! 18th October 2021 10:12


Originally Posted by redsnail (Post 11128008)
Great customer service, let's see.
Pilots brief the Owners about the safety aspects of the aircraft, eg doors etc. introduce themselves and their colleagues, Inform them of the length of flight, any bumps or weather issues, check their onward transport details, tell them about the wifi.
If on an unattended fleet, show where the food and drinks are, and if time before departure, make a coffee/serve the champagne etc. If attended, introduce our ISR/CC.
If unattended, at FL100 or above, close the sonic curtain (if you have one), check the Owner is ok, Some Owners are very chatty, others, not so much... Cabin temp ok, wifi working, etc On Descent, inform how long to run, weather at destination and transport details.
Also before FL100, open the sonic curtain, tidy up the cabin in preparation for landing, stow loose items, confirm if the transport is in place etc.

Post flight, one will usually go with the Owners to their cars/FBO. Ensure all is well. Grab the paper work/fresh wx & Notams. The other will sweep the cabin for phones, wallets etc.

Then we tidy up the cabin, check the plan for the day hasn't changed. Arrange fuel, toilet service, restock and vacuum the carpets, clean every thing, check the ipads are charged etc.
Grab some food, plan for the next flight.

You mean, just like in the airlines :)

flyboy146 18th October 2021 17:14

can anyone shed some light as to what the online interview actually entailed? The FAQ seemed a bit unclear as to what is asked during the online interview and what is asked during the panel face to face.


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