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I got my invite for the first online phase yesterday. 72hrs to complete that
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Originally Posted by OnRoute
(Post 11720349)
I got my invite for the first online phase yesterday. 72hrs to complete that
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Originally Posted by LOWI
(Post 11720039)
Ol' chap, you may have just poked the bear.
I am a very good acquantaince of the young chap you responded to and I will not tolerate your response lightly. All I can suggest, with a Moderator approval, is for you to change your username to Air Weapon as you are a total weapon. Now back on topic chaps and let us all answer this question correctly. |
Originally Posted by Boabity
(Post 11720199)
With respect, it’s not. The process changes and evolves a little each time but is still largely the same as it was 2 years ago. So while it’s very nice you defend your chum, you might best support him by taking a look.
Bases and salary are on PPJN. ELLX is not one of them, near to there it’s only German bases. The process is 1. online application - you’re asked to provide a couple of essays. 2. then there’s the online assessments that you should practice before attempting and a psychometric test that you can’t practice. 3. Online interview - nothing difficult just a chat to see if you fit and the job fits you. You’ll be expected to answer some competence based questions, learn how to do this and have some examples prepared. 4. Assessment centre, 2 more interviews a group exercise and a sim ride. None of it is hard, but you need to prepare. If you don’t get through then there’s a good chance the job is not right for you. Now that I’ve wasted my time reposting that which has already been said many times, can I direct you and your mate to the aforementioned threads where you will not waste your time taking a look at some of the fairly useful information that will help him prepare should he decide to apply? |
The nature of our job is that we need to handle problem solving away from base and can’t sit in your seat waiting for a red capped dispatcher to do everything for you (and it’s unlikely you will have a flight attendant to handle the passengers - at least for the first few years).
If you can’t find the information you require on this website (without complaining) then don’t apply as you won’t manage with life on tour with us. Aircraft handling is 5-10% of what we do on a daily basis so if you are a child of the magenta line then stick with the airlines. However if you genuinely enjoy problem solving then this is the place for you and you will love it here. |
Has anyone heard anything from this time yet ?
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Originally Posted by Topperharley61
(Post 11721175)
Has anyone heard anything from this time yet ?
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Historically the process has frequently taken longer than expected - just to manage your expectations.
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Originally Posted by Globally Challenged
(Post 11720562)
The nature of our job is that we need to handle problem solving away from base and can’t sit in your seat waiting for a red capped dispatcher to do everything for you (and it’s unlikely you will have a flight attendant to handle the passengers - at least for the first few years).
If you can’t find the information you require on this website (without complaining) then don’t apply as you won’t manage with life on tour with us. Aircraft handling is 5-10% of what we do on a daily basis so if you are a child of the magenta line then stick with the airlines. However if you genuinely enjoy problem solving then this is the place for you and you will love it here. No CC and No Dispatcher? Yikes haha! |
Originally Posted by LOWI
(Post 11721367)
Why do you guys keep calling it a tour? Isn't it called a trip or block?
No CC and No Dispatcher? Yikes haha! |
We have dispatchers. They're just not at the airport. They are located in Lisbon. Every thing is done remotely. It works ok. I don't know any different to be honest so I can't compare the benefits of having a dispatcher at the door.
It's been called a tour for as long as I have been in the company (rapidly approaching 20 years). |
Flight plans/Dispatch works the same way as the airlines. The flight plans are emailed to us and the FBO, we sort them as usual. if we need a change we phone our dispatch team in lisbon who sort it out just like in airlines. If we need to adjust TOBT or whatever we speak with the local ground handler, like in the airlines.
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Don’t forget to mention, not only all that wonderful problem solving but corporate pilots also get the joy of loading the bags onto the aircraft. Like 3D Tetris but really, really heavy. That joy is magnified ten fold if you fly a Gulfstream.
One thing rich folks don’t know how to do is travel light. |
in my experience at least half the time the ramp rats do it for you or at least help... and it's a good workout, saves going to the gym.....
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Originally Posted by Booglebox
(Post 11722221)
in my experience at least half the time the ramp rats do it for you or at least help... and it's a good workout, saves going to the gym.....
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No, it's not particularly fun, neither is cleaning the lav, but it's important that prospective pilots know all the facets of the job, not just the fun stuff.
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Just got invited for the next round: online assessments. 72 hours to complete, should take about 65 minutes according to the email, now suddenly its going faster than I initially expected as I said I'd be available for the last block of part 3 of the assessment 🤷🏼
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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
(Post 11720036)
UK contract. When living in an EU country and not in Portugal, you will be taxed in Portugal, social security in your permanent gateway country. If you live in Portugal you'll pay local taxes and local social security. If you live in the UK you'll pay local taxes and local social security.
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Some one on the Continent will be along soon to advise. However, I believe the tax rate for those paying tax to Portugal but who are not resident pay circa 20%. I stand to be corrected by those more knowledgeable. (I'm UK resident and pay in the UK).
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Originally Posted by redsnail
(Post 11723609)
Some one on the Continent will be along soon to advise. However, I believe the tax rate for those paying tax to Portugal but who are not resident pay circa 20%. I stand to be corrected by those more knowledgeable. (I'm UK resident and pay in the UK).
Social security is always paid in the country of your permanent gateway airport. |
Thanks EMS :)
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Hi, it seems a lot of hoops to jump through.
1) CV selection 2) interview recording 3) psychometric tests 4) online interview 5) group discussion 6) panel interview 7) simulator... Are they really that picky? Even the big airlines do not have so many steps! |
Bull****
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Originally Posted by airbuske
(Post 11724842)
Hi, it seems a lot of hoops to jump through.
1) CV selection 2) interview recording 3) psychometric tests 4) online interview 5) group discussion 6) panel interview 7) simulator... Are they really that picky? Even the big airlines do not have so many steps! I have done the assessment earlier this year and it was a smooth and pleasant experience. |
Originally Posted by airbuske
(Post 11724842)
Hi, it seems a lot of hoops to jump through.
1) CV selection 2) interview recording 3) psychometric tests 4) online interview 5) group discussion 6) panel interview 7) simulator... Are they really that picky? Even the big airlines do not have so many steps! |
Originally Posted by airbuske
(Post 11724842)
Hi, it seems a lot of hoops to jump through.
1) CV selection 2) interview recording 3) psychometric tests 4) online interview 5) group discussion 6) panel interview 7) simulator... Are they really that picky? Even the big airlines do not have so many steps! If it's too much for you, then obviously the fit isn't right. |
Some invitations for the online interviews has been sent
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I'm still waiting for feedback on the video assessment. Do you know if we receive an email even if we're unsuccessful?
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which type are they offering right now?
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Yes, everyone will receive feedback, whether positive or negative.
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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
(Post 11726221)
Yes, everyone will receive feedback, whether positive or negative.
do you know how long it takes to receive feedback |
Originally Posted by michelegross1104
(Post 11726416)
do you know how long it takes to receive feedback
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Originally Posted by michelegross1104
(Post 11726416)
do you know how long it takes to receive feedback
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Originally Posted by Alberto2210
(Post 11726111)
which type are they offering right now?
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...and the Falcons. We are going to see quite a few pilots leaving the Falcon for other fleets (upgraders, normal fleet changes), while the Falcon fleet is not shrinking as planned, thus we will need newly hired F/Os for the Falcons, too. The first course will start in October.
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Originally Posted by Globally Challenged
(Post 11726572)
It is frequently a frustratingly slow process - but it’s worth the wait.
Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
(Post 11726613)
...and the Falcons. We are going to see quite a few pilots leaving the Falcon for other fleets (upgraders, normal fleet changes), while the Falcon fleet is not shrinking as planned, thus we will need newly hired F/Os for the Falcons, too. The first course will start in October.
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Originally Posted by jmvdb22
(Post 11726633)
I must say that so far its been relatively quick for me. Response time about a week after each part I think.
I noticed the Falcon is not listed in the fleet sections on the NetJets website. Any reason for this? (Or am I just overlooking it somewhere?) |
Originally Posted by Globally Challenged
(Post 11726643)
Because the fleet is up for disposal (in the not too distant future) I guess
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Do you think it’s possible to not to live at your ‘gateway city’ ?
I mean, imagine if you take a plane from your city to the gateway city you’ve chosen. Or do you actually start your duty days always in the early morning? Thanks! |
Hi alphafox14,
You can... but there's risk. Unfortunately, most of the time Day 1 has a standby element beginning quite early. (04:00z). This gives Scheduling "flexibility". You can risk it but I wouldn't do that too often or what many do, position themselves at own cost to their gateway the night before. What is possible is that on Day 6, you can go directly to your home airport so long as it's cost effective to NJE. Eg. You live near LEPA. But the gateway is LEBL. It is risky to catch an early flight on Day 1. So you can position yourself to LEBL in anticipation. Day 5 the tentative is available. You see a reasonably priced ticket to LEPA instead of LEBL, you ask if you can do that instead. If there's no conflict etc, then you can expect that. But! The one constant with NetJets is change. |
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