Netjets (Europe) Interviews - All you need to know about it (threads merged)
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Is there anybody that actually works for Netjets that can say anything usefull
Cause i'me under the oppinion that only Netjets rejects are the ones that have something (negative) to say.
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Cause i'me under the oppinion that only Netjets rejects are the ones that have something (negative) to say.
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The Real NetJets Story
I work for NetJets as a Co-pilot on the Bravo.
It is a well run company, ops (generally) get it right and the do work us hard when on tour. When off, mostly for 5 days (sometimes 4 days and sometimes 7 days off) we are left alone.
Management are very hard working and value the pilots, despite being hundreds of miles from Lisbon I feel part of the NetJets Team.
The company will back the pilots up to the hilt if you are honest but if you are dishonest or have the wrong attitude you will go. No hire fire policy that I've seen.
Early command for the right people, and fleet changes for others if they have insufficient total time.
There are a mix of people in the company, some with 1500 hrs and come from GA or others with national carrier airline backgrounds.
I do not know of anyone who is planning to leave, people do go, mainly because of the 6 day tours away from home.
The pay is ok, not great, £25 000 basic plus per diems but I am getting some quality jet time and I have a GREAT TIME when on tour.
I'm really sorry if you haven't been selected to join the company, but don't slag us off. Re-apply and keep intouch with HR. Those who are thinking about applying, it's worth a look and it may suit you.
It is a well run company, ops (generally) get it right and the do work us hard when on tour. When off, mostly for 5 days (sometimes 4 days and sometimes 7 days off) we are left alone.
Management are very hard working and value the pilots, despite being hundreds of miles from Lisbon I feel part of the NetJets Team.
The company will back the pilots up to the hilt if you are honest but if you are dishonest or have the wrong attitude you will go. No hire fire policy that I've seen.
Early command for the right people, and fleet changes for others if they have insufficient total time.
There are a mix of people in the company, some with 1500 hrs and come from GA or others with national carrier airline backgrounds.
I do not know of anyone who is planning to leave, people do go, mainly because of the 6 day tours away from home.
The pay is ok, not great, £25 000 basic plus per diems but I am getting some quality jet time and I have a GREAT TIME when on tour.
I'm really sorry if you haven't been selected to join the company, but don't slag us off. Re-apply and keep intouch with HR. Those who are thinking about applying, it's worth a look and it may suit you.
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Can some-one tell me what all the rhetoric is about?I have just been turned down after interview but I fail to see what all the s*#t is about-surely it would be better to have a job than than not ,esp in this environment.I have a couple of mates there who are having a great time!!!
Something is better than nothing-it is for me!
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"Nasty american culture in NJE." American culture - mostly yes Nasty - no
"The damage they're doing to the charter business in europe is huge." Sounds to me like we're doing a great job then! Sour Grapes?
"Employees treated badly etc" I agree with MJ and Captain Crash. No company is perfect but there are a lot of people working hard to improve this one and if charter businesses go broke tough - its called competition.
For those that complain on this forum about the company what have YOU done to try to improve it? I'm not naive enough to realise that there aren't problems but you show me a company that is growing this fast that doesn't?
To me the answer is really simple if you don't like the company - resign and if you haven't got the balls then shut up or at least make your posts balanced.
For those reading this still looking for work please don't be put off because the one word that can NEVER be used for our flying is "boring"
"Nasty american culture in NJE." American culture - mostly yes Nasty - no
"The damage they're doing to the charter business in europe is huge." Sounds to me like we're doing a great job then! Sour Grapes?
"Employees treated badly etc" I agree with MJ and Captain Crash. No company is perfect but there are a lot of people working hard to improve this one and if charter businesses go broke tough - its called competition.
For those that complain on this forum about the company what have YOU done to try to improve it? I'm not naive enough to realise that there aren't problems but you show me a company that is growing this fast that doesn't?
To me the answer is really simple if you don't like the company - resign and if you haven't got the balls then shut up or at least make your posts balanced.
For those reading this still looking for work please don't be put off because the one word that can NEVER be used for our flying is "boring"
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I don't know what their staff relations are like but I have known people, experienced and type rated, who have applied till they are blue in the face.
So what, I hear you say?
Problem is they don't appear to be able to muster up enough common courtesy to even reply to these people. Surely, this must give an insight into their general attitude towards employees, prospective or other wise. I have certainly been "put off."
At the very minimum, Flexjet jet Europe would do their best and reply to an application. A dam shame they pulled out of Europe as they would have given NJ a run for their money.
So what, I hear you say?
Problem is they don't appear to be able to muster up enough common courtesy to even reply to these people. Surely, this must give an insight into their general attitude towards employees, prospective or other wise. I have certainly been "put off."
At the very minimum, Flexjet jet Europe would do their best and reply to an application. A dam shame they pulled out of Europe as they would have given NJ a run for their money.
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People tend to forget
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showth...ghlight=netjets
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showth...ghlight=netjets
Everything mentioned in these threads is as true today as it was then.
Capt crash: who are you ? Do you have eyes ? And if so open them and do not try to cloud the vision of other people.
Mike jenvey: You have been hired so recently that you can hardly speak for us at Netjets. Wait till the high season brings the first bullyings your way !
Wrong Sisters: No company is perfect but there are a lot of people working hard to improve this one
Name one ! You are surely not talking about those people who will get teir huge bonusses at the end of the year are you ?
No hire and fire ? What a laugh !
No chance to experience the ejection seat in civilian flying ? Try Netjets.
For those of you that are upset for not even having recieved a polite denial of your application: the comtempt of NJ towards their pilots is just as bad.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showth...ghlight=netjets
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showth...ghlight=netjets
Everything mentioned in these threads is as true today as it was then.
Capt crash: who are you ? Do you have eyes ? And if so open them and do not try to cloud the vision of other people.
Mike jenvey: You have been hired so recently that you can hardly speak for us at Netjets. Wait till the high season brings the first bullyings your way !
Wrong Sisters: No company is perfect but there are a lot of people working hard to improve this one
Name one ! You are surely not talking about those people who will get teir huge bonusses at the end of the year are you ?
No hire and fire ? What a laugh !
No chance to experience the ejection seat in civilian flying ? Try Netjets.
For those of you that are upset for not even having recieved a polite denial of your application: the comtempt of NJ towards their pilots is just as bad.
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Quite a thread this one!! Started as a request for info on the Netjets interview and its back to the pros and cons of NJE!! Its certainly stirring up a lot of feeling and I suppose might be important.
WS : I realise that the concept of american and culture are mutually exclusive so perhaps I shouldn't have written that. But nasty it certainly is!
I don't accept that NJE is fair competition. They cannot make a profit operating the way they do - how much is Warren Buffet losing a month? When he pulls the plug, I wonder how the local markets will take up the flotsam.
I'll bet the flying isn't boring - being bounced off the runway at Aberdeen has to be fun!
What you've got is an american billionaire pumping cash into a loss making enterprise, operating under a flag of convenience, buying aircraft at discount prices. I guess thats where any potential profit will come from - when it folds and the aircraft are sold.
WS : I realise that the concept of american and culture are mutually exclusive so perhaps I shouldn't have written that. But nasty it certainly is!
I don't accept that NJE is fair competition. They cannot make a profit operating the way they do - how much is Warren Buffet losing a month? When he pulls the plug, I wonder how the local markets will take up the flotsam.
I'll bet the flying isn't boring - being bounced off the runway at Aberdeen has to be fun!
What you've got is an american billionaire pumping cash into a loss making enterprise, operating under a flag of convenience, buying aircraft at discount prices. I guess thats where any potential profit will come from - when it folds and the aircraft are sold.
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Well Mike, if you were contacted one day after submitting you resume, you are obviously are of "the right stuff". Well done.
What are they looking for then? Airforce, Airline or NASA backgrounds? Would help if we knew, then we wouldn't waste our and Netjets time, submitting a resume in a futile application to an outfit that is beyond the reach of us mortals.
I don't recall NJE giving me the impression they would not reply to to an application to unsucessful candiates, in their latest advertizement for pilots.
What are they looking for then? Airforce, Airline or NASA backgrounds? Would help if we knew, then we wouldn't waste our and Netjets time, submitting a resume in a futile application to an outfit that is beyond the reach of us mortals.
I don't recall NJE giving me the impression they would not reply to to an application to unsucessful candiates, in their latest advertizement for pilots.
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activewaypiont may have been right (dunno when we spoke,but take it all in perspective, please).
Are Netets perfect? No.
Is anyone else....? I'll leave you to answer that.
For the greater part 6 on/ 5 off is the norm.
Am I happy? For the greater part, yes.
I'd rather be doing this than shuttliing back and forth between the same two airports.
Are they going places? I bloody hope so or I've hitched up to the wrong wagon. Soon find out though, eh?
Am I blind to the real world? Well, I suppose you have to decide upon who's outside looking in. I'm (fortunately) for now looking out but that can change.
All I can say is that if Uncle Warren is prepared to keep pumping the money in I'm more than glad to keep flying his brand new
aircraft.
The really annoying thing is how they deal with applications (as in, ignore them). We, already working here, know this but resources are limited. I'll tell those in the know but don't hold your breath.
Joking aside, it ain't such a bad place to be. Sure, **** happens and we all cop some from time to time but the gamble might be worth it. If it turns out not to be I'm sure someone will let me know.
activewaypoint I think we're long past due a beer mate. S
Are Netets perfect? No.
Is anyone else....? I'll leave you to answer that.
For the greater part 6 on/ 5 off is the norm.
Am I happy? For the greater part, yes.
I'd rather be doing this than shuttliing back and forth between the same two airports.
Are they going places? I bloody hope so or I've hitched up to the wrong wagon. Soon find out though, eh?
Am I blind to the real world? Well, I suppose you have to decide upon who's outside looking in. I'm (fortunately) for now looking out but that can change.
All I can say is that if Uncle Warren is prepared to keep pumping the money in I'm more than glad to keep flying his brand new
aircraft.
The really annoying thing is how they deal with applications (as in, ignore them). We, already working here, know this but resources are limited. I'll tell those in the know but don't hold your breath.
Joking aside, it ain't such a bad place to be. Sure, **** happens and we all cop some from time to time but the gamble might be worth it. If it turns out not to be I'm sure someone will let me know.
activewaypoint I think we're long past due a beer mate. S
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For all of you wondering what you need to join net jets-
On my initial course, all of us had 2500-3500 hours ie. we all had the amount of hours for an upgrade to captaincy.
For those asking why you didn't get any reply, I was told there were 2000+ CVs for one advert- and for only two people initially sorting out these CVs, it would take alot of time to reply to them all.
On my initial course, all of us had 2500-3500 hours ie. we all had the amount of hours for an upgrade to captaincy.
For those asking why you didn't get any reply, I was told there were 2000+ CVs for one advert- and for only two people initially sorting out these CVs, it would take alot of time to reply to them all.
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Hi GashShag, did you say 2500-3500 hrs.?. Just got my PFO letter with 5000hrs. airline jet time, they said I was not "competitive" enough for the European market, what ever that means . All these after a personal talk (yes, I went over to Oeiras exclusively to talk to him) with Mr. Carlos Costa (do you recall this name or do I have to explain?) in which he promised that "of course" I would be interviewed ... LAST SEPTEMBER!!.
So have fun in your NJE but as far as I am cocerned ...
Fly Safe
So have fun in your NJE but as far as I am cocerned ...
Fly Safe
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Mr. B 767-300
Why don't you tell us about a day in your life, when you are out working. Then we'll have one of us bizjet pilots tell you about our work day. Then you'll proberbly find out why NetJets diden't call you for an interview. ( I know the shoulden't have lied to you)
I myself got an interview two weeks after I applied (wich saddly I screwd up). But thats life, hopefully I'll do a better job next time. Buy the way I'm not eaven close to 5000h, not eaven one hour of widebody time.
BF
Why don't you tell us about a day in your life, when you are out working. Then we'll have one of us bizjet pilots tell you about our work day. Then you'll proberbly find out why NetJets diden't call you for an interview. ( I know the shoulden't have lied to you)
I myself got an interview two weeks after I applied (wich saddly I screwd up). But thats life, hopefully I'll do a better job next time. Buy the way I'm not eaven close to 5000h, not eaven one hour of widebody time.
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Mr. BitterFlex,
the whole point of my letter was: "hey, play fair". If they don't want experienced pilots at NJE just put a minimum of flight hours in your advertisement and A MAXIMUM. Of course writting up a maximum doesn't sell too well in terms of safety, does it?. Also if they don't want airline pilots, just let it know. I just want to know if I can have an access to that job, and if I can't ... I just don't send my CV and everybody is happy.
Secondly, don't make the mistake of thinking that working for an airline is the same thing as working for a major. Not everywhere pilots get excellent pays, pension plans, free travel tickets ... . I assesed my self and believe me, if I wanted to switch to NJE is because it was worth it.
You screwed at the interview?, you've never flown a wide body? hard luck pal, what can I do about that?
Fly Safe
the whole point of my letter was: "hey, play fair". If they don't want experienced pilots at NJE just put a minimum of flight hours in your advertisement and A MAXIMUM. Of course writting up a maximum doesn't sell too well in terms of safety, does it?. Also if they don't want airline pilots, just let it know. I just want to know if I can have an access to that job, and if I can't ... I just don't send my CV and everybody is happy.
Secondly, don't make the mistake of thinking that working for an airline is the same thing as working for a major. Not everywhere pilots get excellent pays, pension plans, free travel tickets ... . I assesed my self and believe me, if I wanted to switch to NJE is because it was worth it.
You screwed at the interview?, you've never flown a wide body? hard luck pal, what can I do about that?
Fly Safe
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dear B767-300,
all your statements are guesses. I don't know NJE recruitment policy exactly but I know they want a good mix of different kinds of aviation and different levels of experience. I got in with 5000+ hours being an airline captain as well. When I applied I got a phonecall from them within a couple of days. So far, I don't regret my choice.
all your statements are guesses. I don't know NJE recruitment policy exactly but I know they want a good mix of different kinds of aviation and different levels of experience. I got in with 5000+ hours being an airline captain as well. When I applied I got a phonecall from them within a couple of days. So far, I don't regret my choice.
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Hey B767-300
All I'm trying to say here is, what you'r proberbly used to, is total diffrent than NJE opperations, not talking about the aircraft. I belive if you get a direct entry captains seat you'll get to fly the old mighty Citation Bravo, wich proberbly gross out at the weight you plan for a go-around (slight exageration). I totaly agree with you that lying to your face and promesing a interview is ..... (well we no what).
I belive they woulden't mind one of these 5 to 10 tusend hour guys working for Easy or Ryan or what ever they are called. Since the type of operation is fairly simular. Quick turnarounds one to three hour flights, alot of workdays and so forth.
Be good
All I'm trying to say here is, what you'r proberbly used to, is total diffrent than NJE opperations, not talking about the aircraft. I belive if you get a direct entry captains seat you'll get to fly the old mighty Citation Bravo, wich proberbly gross out at the weight you plan for a go-around (slight exageration). I totaly agree with you that lying to your face and promesing a interview is ..... (well we no what).
I belive they woulden't mind one of these 5 to 10 tusend hour guys working for Easy or Ryan or what ever they are called. Since the type of operation is fairly simular. Quick turnarounds one to three hour flights, alot of workdays and so forth.
Be good
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Just to clarify- There's lots of different experienced pilots within NetJets. I was only talking about my course. NetJets have recruited alot of pilots with "Mr 767's" experience and also pilots with 1500 hrs (as per the advert).