Netjets claim to have the BEST pilots!!
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At the risk of being pilloried for entertaining a non pilots opinion, we get NJE into our place 3 or 4 times a week.
At the moment they're servicing clients who've being chartering aircraft for over 20 years, and who don't tolerate any bulls
it from anyone who may try to pull the wool over their eyes.
From an ATC point of view, they're no problem at all, and always seem to operate to the highest standards both in the air and on the ground.
No doubt they're not perfect, but they're a lot more perfect than some I can mention....
At the moment they're servicing clients who've being chartering aircraft for over 20 years, and who don't tolerate any bulls
it from anyone who may try to pull the wool over their eyes.From an ATC point of view, they're no problem at all, and always seem to operate to the highest standards both in the air and on the ground.
No doubt they're not perfect, but they're a lot more perfect than some I can mention....
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To fellow pilots still looking for an interview,
I was at in Gatwick for Netjets interview this wednesday.
Still dont know how they came to invite me seeing the very qualified pilots attending with me but keep on trying and I am sure you will get your chance.
Safe Flying,
M.85
I was at in Gatwick for Netjets interview this wednesday.
Still dont know how they came to invite me seeing the very qualified pilots attending with me but keep on trying and I am sure you will get your chance.
Safe Flying,
M.85
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Doesn't seem to have been covered so far, but where are the NJE crews based? Its obviously not in Lisbon, are you scattered all over, or are there set bases?
Sorry if its a bone question, but have been following this thread with interest......
Cheers
Sorry if its a bone question, but have been following this thread with interest......
Cheers
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hmmmmm...Thanks Mike
Been poking around the website but cant seem to find an email to make contact, anybody willing to provide me with a suitable contact address?
Not in Europe at the moment so not able to attend the 'open day'. Would just like to make contact and see what/ if response I get.
PM me if you wish.
Cheers in advance
Been poking around the website but cant seem to find an email to make contact, anybody willing to provide me with a suitable contact address?
Not in Europe at the moment so not able to attend the 'open day'. Would just like to make contact and see what/ if response I get.
PM me if you wish.
Cheers in advance
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happyjack
That's bull**** and you could find yourself in hot water for uttering such untruths. Maybe you should delete the alleged owners name at the very least!
Why don't you stop this bitching about Netjets and get on with your life. It's kinda sad that you continue to spend time trying to cause a company (and its 200 pilots) grief.
That's bull**** and you could find yourself in hot water for uttering such untruths. Maybe you should delete the alleged owners name at the very least!
Why don't you stop this bitching about Netjets and get on with your life. It's kinda sad that you continue to spend time trying to cause a company (and its 200 pilots) grief.
Capt. Crash.
Not bull**** I am afraid. I stand totally by what I say. I have the dates, times and crew names if you want them.
Are you management then worried that the illusion is out?
Not bull**** I am afraid. I stand totally by what I say. I have the dates, times and crew names if you want them.
Are you management then worried that the illusion is out?
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Not so Happy....Happy Jack?
Hey Happy Jack!
Go get a life! This isn't the ninth grade, perhaps NJE thought the same thing when they interviewed you last time.
That's why you were rejected!
Go get a life! This isn't the ninth grade, perhaps NJE thought the same thing when they interviewed you last time.
That's why you were rejected!
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Hey Happy Jack........why don't you tell them about the NJE aircraft that was intercepted just north of the Pyrenees by a French Mirage as the Capt. was in the back pouring champagne for his Pax......the co-jo oblivious to the fact was finally informed by one of the pax that there was a jet fighter just off their wing tip motioning with his hand 1 2 1 5........definitely 9th grade crew .........care for that crews name Higgy?
.....or still want more ??
.....or still want more ??
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What was the "Captain" doing down the back pouring drinks?
I know the inadequacies of the French ATC system also. Even less reason to be out of the cockpit IMHO.
However who am I to give am opinion?
I know the inadequacies of the French ATC system also. Even less reason to be out of the cockpit IMHO.
However who am I to give am opinion?
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Disagree old chap.
Just as I thought. Customer relations appear to override safety considerations in a few outfits. NJE appears to no exception.Your post has just confirmed it.
If the PIC was out of his seat and it could be proved it was a contributing factor leading to an intercept, then it's a "hanging offence". Period. Have you forgotten what happened on 9/11?
Maybe you are the type of guy that blames the SIC, if there is an incident when you are out of the seat wiping some owners a***.
Just as I thought. Customer relations appear to override safety considerations in a few outfits. NJE appears to no exception.Your post has just confirmed it.
If the PIC was out of his seat and it could be proved it was a contributing factor leading to an intercept, then it's a "hanging offence". Period. Have you forgotten what happened on 9/11?
Maybe you are the type of guy that blames the SIC, if there is an incident when you are out of the seat wiping some owners a***.
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some would agree...
Double Anker...I actually have to agree with you. I don't make it a habit to go back into the cabin during flight at all. They're paying for me to save their as--s not kiss it!
Yep, I think if they want a Flight Attendant, they can pay for one, that's not what I do in cruise!
Yep, I think if they want a Flight Attendant, they can pay for one, that's not what I do in cruise!
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About Net Jets Pilots
I have a friend who works for Net Jets. Pay is pretty bad (20s to start) and another Citation X driver told me he was pissed to be making 40s, and he was an ex airline guy. None the less, most that I have talked to seem to like the structure, that all co- captains have exact training, so they all know what to expect. They have set schedules, and fly generaly new equipment. It's unfair to say they are the best pilots, or that they aren't so good.
I heard the interview process is demanding, but like most it comes down to fitting in over knowledge and skills.
Some good pilots take lousy jobs because regardless of the credentials, this is the opportunity that presented themselves to them. I personaly think it's the job you take when you looking for something else.
Most people can't hack corporate, to do what it takes. Nor do they have the degree or creds for a real airline job, so this is good place for people to make a little money, fly some nice equipment, and not have to manage planes or people. It's a niche.
I heard the interview process is demanding, but like most it comes down to fitting in over knowledge and skills.
Some good pilots take lousy jobs because regardless of the credentials, this is the opportunity that presented themselves to them. I personaly think it's the job you take when you looking for something else.
Most people can't hack corporate, to do what it takes. Nor do they have the degree or creds for a real airline job, so this is good place for people to make a little money, fly some nice equipment, and not have to manage planes or people. It's a niche.
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JENVEY
Seems that checking through your previous postings about NJE, you are consistantly extremely defensive about all aspects of the company......and judging by your wee little icons you must definitely have a yearly subscription to the beano.........if you think you can lead others who read these postings to believe that all comments made come from 5th hand information(especially regarding the intercept) and at the same time try to pass it off as a normal occurence over french airspace, knowing full well their reputation at not being the best ATC in the world, then I suggest you try to stay awake at your next recurrent in LIS and you'll get it all first hand from MM if he happens to be there subjecting the next group of chaps to the co. indoc......even trying to justify for a minute that pouring a glass of champers for a pax over french airspace on what I am assuming to be your normal flt. leg of 1.2 hrs, taking precedence over safety rather than siting in the seat you're being paid to sit in is ludicrous to say the least.......your most compelling reason, while we're at it, about this living anywhere in Europe gateway lark, you still haven't answered the question of when does your duty day start.....I know, but I'll let you tell the rest of the audience in lieu of being accused that my information is 5th hand.......tell it straight up for a change and stop leading our fellow pilots on.....
SAFETY..........try looking up the definition in the ol' Oxford Dictionary, you'll find it enlightening taking into account your recent postings!!
Seems that checking through your previous postings about NJE, you are consistantly extremely defensive about all aspects of the company......and judging by your wee little icons you must definitely have a yearly subscription to the beano.........if you think you can lead others who read these postings to believe that all comments made come from 5th hand information(especially regarding the intercept) and at the same time try to pass it off as a normal occurence over french airspace, knowing full well their reputation at not being the best ATC in the world, then I suggest you try to stay awake at your next recurrent in LIS and you'll get it all first hand from MM if he happens to be there subjecting the next group of chaps to the co. indoc......even trying to justify for a minute that pouring a glass of champers for a pax over french airspace on what I am assuming to be your normal flt. leg of 1.2 hrs, taking precedence over safety rather than siting in the seat you're being paid to sit in is ludicrous to say the least.......your most compelling reason, while we're at it, about this living anywhere in Europe gateway lark, you still haven't answered the question of when does your duty day start.....I know, but I'll let you tell the rest of the audience in lieu of being accused that my information is 5th hand.......tell it straight up for a change and stop leading our fellow pilots on.....
SAFETY..........try looking up the definition in the ol' Oxford Dictionary, you'll find it enlightening taking into account your recent postings!!
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About the pay.....
I don't think there's anyone making 20's nor 40's at Netjets, that is, that wants to work. The money is there, but you do have to give up some lifestyle to get a slice of it.
We can't divulge too much of the compensation arrangements because we are bound by confidentiality, but the money's there if you want to go after it.
It is true that some people see it as a breathing space until the airline industry gets sorted out, then there are people that genuinely like going to work and actually solving problems. With unscheduled flying, utilizing a large organization, there are going to be problems.
I believe there may be an element of truth to every post that we've seen. Firstly that all Netjets pilots are "the best" is simply an outrageous claim to make. I think on average, that we are in fact above average, and I hope this continues as the company grows. An advertising claim that we hire only the best pilots seems well intended, and I think that it's an obvious belief that any competitive company would like to make.
My airline background allows me to share the belief that I have in fact flown with the best pilots in my career, now spanning twenty years, at Netjets.
All things being said, certain training events in simulators, or instances of less than courteous or professional behaviour will have to be dealt with in any organisation the size that we are now. All said, Netjets now has over 420 aircraft worldwide.
To gain some perspective on this size, please allow yourself to consider Qantas, which only has 135 aircraft.
If there was ever an incident as detailed in a previous post, where a pilot did abrogate his/her responsibility and left the flight deck to play flight attendant, I'm sure it's already been dealt with...if indeed it's true in the first place.
We are not perfect, and I hope that we will never consider ourselves such, for that would certainly spell disaster for us all!
We can't divulge too much of the compensation arrangements because we are bound by confidentiality, but the money's there if you want to go after it.
It is true that some people see it as a breathing space until the airline industry gets sorted out, then there are people that genuinely like going to work and actually solving problems. With unscheduled flying, utilizing a large organization, there are going to be problems.
I believe there may be an element of truth to every post that we've seen. Firstly that all Netjets pilots are "the best" is simply an outrageous claim to make. I think on average, that we are in fact above average, and I hope this continues as the company grows. An advertising claim that we hire only the best pilots seems well intended, and I think that it's an obvious belief that any competitive company would like to make.
My airline background allows me to share the belief that I have in fact flown with the best pilots in my career, now spanning twenty years, at Netjets.
All things being said, certain training events in simulators, or instances of less than courteous or professional behaviour will have to be dealt with in any organisation the size that we are now. All said, Netjets now has over 420 aircraft worldwide.
To gain some perspective on this size, please allow yourself to consider Qantas, which only has 135 aircraft.
If there was ever an incident as detailed in a previous post, where a pilot did abrogate his/her responsibility and left the flight deck to play flight attendant, I'm sure it's already been dealt with...if indeed it's true in the first place.
We are not perfect, and I hope that we will never consider ourselves such, for that would certainly spell disaster for us all!