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Just looking at Reg's last summary; by their absence, it looks like my search failure, is because the very obvious physical features are not mentioned in relation to any images on the web (like skytrain's Icelander)
Ditto with the Handley Page Wing design, I've tried all manner of variations (including different languages), but not hit the right nuance to hook it with a search!!
Looking back to the first/second question; does that mean it's a foreign entry in Aerofiles?
Do what Airedales do! I would get thrown out of the office 
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Sitz?
"But sitting better" refers to my Airedale, who had several dog show certificates and prizes, and sat neater than the one in the picture
.Edit to say: But alas! If you, Sir, meant the verb sitzen in German, which might also mean something sitting on (fitting to) something, you might have a point.
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Coffee time nearly over and still not many about!
I'm sorry Reg, either it's lost in translation, or more likely, it's just because I'm in maximum dummkopf mode today (just today!!), but I'm even more confused now!
No doubt, I'll kick myself when it's eventually revealed, but at the moment I'm not getting anywhere and have to get back to work again.
I'm sorry Reg, either it's lost in translation, or more likely, it's just because I'm in maximum dummkopf mode today (just today!!), but I'm even more confused now!
No doubt, I'll kick myself when it's eventually revealed, but at the moment I'm not getting anywhere and have to get back to work again.
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OK, first of reposting the picture:
Then repeating some clues:
The first/second question when this challenge came out was "Where is the lower left wing". Look at the picture and tilt your head like a curious terrier and ask a new question: "Is it the low wing that looks strange? Can it be the upper wing?"
Then repeating some clues:
The first/second question when this challenge came out was "Where is the lower left wing". Look at the picture and tilt your head like a curious terrier and ask a new question: "Is it the low wing that looks strange? Can it be the upper wing?"
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OK Reg,
Maybe you have put me out of my misery by drawing attention to the upper wing looking a bit odd! I had avoided looking at this one again because we had it about a year ago (Page 315)!
Is it the Magni J.6-S (AKA Jona J-6) ?
Maybe you have put me out of my misery by drawing attention to the upper wing looking a bit odd! I had avoided looking at this one again because we had it about a year ago (Page 315)!
Is it the Magni J.6-S (AKA Jona J-6) ?
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Sure is.
The Two-seat Experimental Sesquiplane With Tilting Upper Wing J.6, designed by Jona and built by Magni, in Italy (the J-6S did not have engine cowling).
You were almost there very early.....
Over to you!
Did we? My apologies. So, do you want this to be null and void and an Open House, or ...... To be honest, I thought I had checked 
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Sure is.
The Two-seat Experimental Sesquiplane With Tilting Upper Wing J.6, designed by Jona and built by Magni, in Italy (the J-6S did not have engine cowling).
You were almost there very early.....
Over to you!
I had avoided looking at this one again because we had it about a year ago (Page 315)!
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Thank Reg,
Earlier than you think mate, it was on practically every search I did right from the getgo, but I didn't even look at it 'coz I knew we'd already had it (see edit above). Never mind though, 'twaz a good, but somewhat frustrating search, or should I say for me a wild goose chase! 
Edited to say, don't worry it's happened before and will again!! I'll take it this time, If you look back to page 315 you'll see that I gave it as the Magni because of the cowl and because Graeme's suggestion of the Jona had initially been rejected, but in the end it went back to Oz
I'll put one up in a few minutes afore I go home, hoping that my broadband is up again!
Edited to say that I've changed my mind about posting a challenge now, in case my BB is still down, so it's Open House.
You were almost there very early.....
Edited to say, don't worry it's happened before and will again!! I'll take it this time, If you look back to page 315 you'll see that I gave it as the Magni because of the cowl and because Graeme's suggestion of the Jona had initially been rejected, but in the end it went back to Oz
I'll put one up in a few minutes afore I go home, hoping that my broadband is up again!
Edited to say that I've changed my mind about posting a challenge now, in case my BB is still down, so it's Open House.
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TC Just to be pedantic: The challenge is Jona J6, the tilting wing Jona. The original challenge on page 315 is J6S which was manufactured to the Italian Air Force and had no tilting wing. This is from my head. I'll check and edit as necessary.
Edit: And it had slat wings as you alluded. Aerei Italiani - 1936 - Biplano Jona "J.6" - Aeroplano da medio turismo Jona J.7
Anyhow, I accept your response and hand the thread over to you
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Edit: And it had slat wings as you alluded. Aerei Italiani - 1936 - Biplano Jona "J.6" - Aeroplano da medio turismo Jona J.7
Anyhow, I accept your response and hand the thread over to you
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Ing. Alberto Jona formed his Studio di Consulenza Aeronautica (Aeronautical Consultancy Bureau) in Rome in 1932 and started the design of a two-seat sesqui-plane with a pivoting wing, designated J.6. The aircraft was of mixed construction, with a tube fuselage and wooden wing covered with plywood and fabric; it was manufactured by the Piero Magni Aviazione at Taliedo. By intervention of the Italian AF, it was put on static display at the first air show at Milan with the s/n MM313.
Powered by an 140 hp Fiat A 54 seven-cylinder, air-cooled radial engine, the aircraft was first flown (with the wing in a fixed position) by Magni test pilot Vasco Magrini on May 24, 1936, while test flying with the wing pivoting was performed by Giovanni Roccato, with promising results. Subsequently the aircraft was tested by the military at the Centro Sperimentale (Experimental Center) of the Italian AF at Guidonia, near Rome.
In 1937, registered as I-BONZ, the J.6 was flown by the well known sport pilot Leonardo Bonzi in the Giro Aereo d'Italia, and other races. The aircraft was flown for several years by Jona, after Italy's Armistice with the Allies on September 8, 1943, the aircraft disappeared into obscurity.
The testing by the military had resulted in 1937 in an order from the Ministero dell'Aeronautica (Air Ministry) for six aircraft with a fixed wing, designated J.6-S (s/n MM50723 to MM50728). Powered by a 240 hp nine-cylinder, air-cooled radial engine, these six were intended for training and were fitted with night-flying cabin lightning, a 0.303 (7.7 mm) machinegun and had an option to carry a AGR 61 camera.
All aircraft were delivered in 1939 and differed only in detail from the J.6. In the event the aircraft were used mostly as liaison transports by member of the General Staff of the Italian AF, all were lost during WW II and the Armistice.
Powered by an 140 hp Fiat A 54 seven-cylinder, air-cooled radial engine, the aircraft was first flown (with the wing in a fixed position) by Magni test pilot Vasco Magrini on May 24, 1936, while test flying with the wing pivoting was performed by Giovanni Roccato, with promising results. Subsequently the aircraft was tested by the military at the Centro Sperimentale (Experimental Center) of the Italian AF at Guidonia, near Rome.
In 1937, registered as I-BONZ, the J.6 was flown by the well known sport pilot Leonardo Bonzi in the Giro Aereo d'Italia, and other races. The aircraft was flown for several years by Jona, after Italy's Armistice with the Allies on September 8, 1943, the aircraft disappeared into obscurity.
The testing by the military had resulted in 1937 in an order from the Ministero dell'Aeronautica (Air Ministry) for six aircraft with a fixed wing, designated J.6-S (s/n MM50723 to MM50728). Powered by a 240 hp nine-cylinder, air-cooled radial engine, these six were intended for training and were fitted with night-flying cabin lightning, a 0.303 (7.7 mm) machinegun and had an option to carry a AGR 61 camera.
All aircraft were delivered in 1939 and differed only in detail from the J.6. In the event the aircraft were used mostly as liaison transports by member of the General Staff of the Italian AF, all were lost during WW II and the Armistice.
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No mate, you're not being pedantic at all; in fact that challenge got a little confused and if you look at my post #6298 you'll see that I pointed out exactly what you have just said and then on post #6301 I found the photo which revealed it to be the Magni. I think it's in Mel's list as both!
As I said at the time, it's all for a bit of fun, plus learning loads of interesting things we never knew
As I said at the time, it's all for a bit of fun, plus learning loads of interesting things we never knew
LM wipe that smug off your face will ya.
Glad it's identified - now maybe we'll get a TC special.......
sh..t - just remembered that I did his latest silhouette also - so I still can't play.....
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Originally Posted by LM
I do hope this one goes soon - I wanna play....
Edited to say I must have read your mind, so don't say no to the OH!! I'm off now, but I may be back online later with luck! P.S. I just "pinged" my router at home and didn't get a response, so maybe not!
I've just noticed that the Prune clock has changed it zone again, but at least it's not US west coast like it was a while ago!
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Wrong mate - I consider myself to be in play when the challenge is from someone else
) to monitor the by thing??Interesting Challenge! Shutting down now, may "see" you later
Edited to say I'm back! BB up again after a little coaxing! Good call skytrain. Good Night all.
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when devising fiendish, truthful but evasive clues
Your challenge LM: Yet another strange protrusion sticking out......
a KEEL?