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Old 1st Jan 2011, 21:27
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I'm lost....

Assuming it's France, maybe a Breguet design?
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Germany 81,757,600 SOB - 16.31% of all.
Thanks Reg!

Now looking under "G" in my book...
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Old 1st Jan 2011, 21:31
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OK Graeme, I don't like red either.

True story:

Some years ago at a cocktail party in Bournemouth with the Red Arrows.

Me wearing Martin Baker tie, standard dark blue jacket and grey trousers, and some guy wearing a red tie comes up and says "Hello, I'm Red Seven".

Me? "Hello, I'm fg Donald Duck.

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Reg,

It's not the Lommatzsch, but you re safely back on home ground.

There are a couple of good pictures on the web showing the wing shape very clearly, including this one and I'm surprised you haven't stumbled across it recently.
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Nite nite!
Night mate!

Stig! A Focke-Wulf Kranich III or Weine 50............?
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A Scheibe design?
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Old 1st Jan 2011, 21:43
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Gövier1 H.....
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A few more (they all look the bloody same)...?
Schleicher
Schempp-Matteson.
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Not a Scheibe mate!

As it's getting quite late in Berlin, I'll throw in a little cryptic clue!

The manufacturer/co-designer sounds like a German aero-engine made of Tungsten (but shortened a little)

Edited to say it's not that second one you added either, BUT part of the latter, did have a connection with this ones maker, but not on this particular one! Clear as mud innit

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So not Gövier?

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Old 1st Jan 2011, 21:53
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Well Wolf Hirt did so much......
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So not Gövier?
Well Reg; I don't know if my info is wrong, but I have it as the Wolf Hirth Go-4 Goevier III and as far as I'm concerned, you have control!! Well done

BTW, my photo came from a certain Belgian site!!

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Clear as mud innit


Tungsten
I only know it in hardware shops.

Black und Decker?

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Tungsten's Chemical name is Wolfram, which was the first name of this glider's co-designer Hirth, who built it under the shortened name Wolf Hirth.

Hirth also built gliders with Schempp.

And yes, in its Carbide form it's universally used as a very hard (but brittle) material for cutting tools and drills, often plated with Gold-coloured Titanium Nitride TiN, mistakenly called tin plating. Lesson over, Ill get me coat......
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Old 1st Jan 2011, 22:03
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.......

Sleeve Reg??
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Lesson over, Ill get me coat......

Don't forget to shut the door....
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Lesson over, Ill get me coat......
And take your wretched glider with you!....


(but brittle)
I bet you see a lot of that happening at work? All I know is that circular saw tungsten tips don't like nails.
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Methinks Reg is out of supplies.

Standby for an OH Graeme.

Now it really is nite nite.
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Now it really is nite nite.
Goodnight again!

I'm off to the Sunday Markets to look for old tools and aircraft books!

Cheers!
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OK. Got it.

I have Gö-4 as built in 1937 (over 100 pieces) and then again 1951 - 1954 another 21.
Göppingen Gö 4 III

Die Göppingen Gö 4 ist ein zweisitziges Schul- und Übungssegelflugzeug, konstruiert von Wolf Hirths, bei der die Sitze nicht wie üblich hintereinander, sondern nebeneinander angeordnet waren. Dies war ein Beitrag zur Verbesserung der Kommunikation zwischen Schüler und Lehrer, der allerdings etwas auf Kosten der Flugleistung ging. Der Platz für die parallele Sitzanordnung wurde dadurch gewonnen, dass Ellenbogen und Schultern der Besatzung in die Flügelwurzeln hineinragten. Die Bauweise war konventionell in Holzbauweise.. Die Gö 4 flog erstmals im November 1937 und wurde anschließend bei Hirths Flugzeugbau in Serie hergestellt. Bis 1943 entstanden über 100 Exemplare. Wie eine Reihe anderer bekannter Segelflugzeuge wurde auch die Gö 4 in den 1950er Jahren wiederaufgelegt; zwischen 1951 und 1954 produzierte Hirth noch einmal 21 Exemplare. Die ausgestellte Goevier flog von 1952 bis 1976 bei der Flugsportvereinigung Celle.
The Wolf Hirth Gö 4 III D-1084 in Deutsche Luftfahrtmuseum is marked first flown 1944.....

Anyhow, interesting wild goose chase - Thanks Sinco.

Now turning in, so Open House.

Edit to say that my pic of the Gövier1 H looks pretty much the same as this Hirt Gö-4 II that hangs in a museum as Gö-4 g4
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