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Old 29th Dec 2009, 14:01
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Well Done Lightning Mate! You and I were writing at the same time!

The Allen A-4 was designed by Edmund 'Eddie' T Allen
and was intended to compete in the 1924 Dayton races, but the list of contestants did not show it as an entry.

Engine: Harley-Davidson motorcyle engine
Wingspan: 27'0"
Length: 18'9"

Allen went on to be the Boeing test pilot. He was so highly regarded that the Army Air Force specifically requested him to test fly the Lockheed Constellation. He was later killed in a crash when nursing back the XB-29 prototype after an engine fire.
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Thanks Mechta.

You had me worried then!

I spent hours looking at horizontally-opposed air-cooled engines, but Harley Davidson did come up in my searches.

That might have been almost impossible without the clues.

Standby please....
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A silhouette then, as opposed to a three view, Photoshopped from a photograph........

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A bit of further research shows that Harley Davidson did a 584cc flat twin in their 'Model W' bike of 1920, so if that is what Allen planned to use, then the drawing is correct.

In case the second clue was a bit cryptic, 'Hog' is a term used by Harley owners to describe their bikes, and is even H-D's Wall Steet monicker.
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Old 29th Dec 2009, 14:55
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"In case the second clue was a bit cryptic..."

Sure was, but I now see what you meant.

Now working on the thread stats for 2009.
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Looks quite Deperdussin to me, but those wingtip ailerons, can't find them anywhere
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Sorry Mechta,

Not a Deperdussin.

.....and it looks like you're all alone on the thread.
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I thought it was a bit quiet!
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Where on Earth is everyone......?
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well I've been looking at pictures of vintage monoplanes, looking for tip ailerons, until my eyes went crossed and I had to stop.

Not Blackburn by any chance?
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Good evening HD.

Sorry, not Blackburn either.
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Good evening (or morning)...the Koechlin monoplane of 1910?
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 07:11
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Good morning to you skytrain.

It is indeed the Monoplane by Paul Koechlin of France. Well done .



The thread is all yours.

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Thanks LM...must admit those wing "extensions" assisted my search.

Am out for a few hours, but here's one to keep you going:

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Prototype Chrislea CH3 Ace before conversion to twin fins?
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Morning Mechta.

I've just come out to play too.
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Peterborough Guardian - construction abandoned 1939
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skytrain,

Methinks you scanned this by the looks of it, and it ain't on the web.

You devious bugger.
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Morning, or afternoon now, Lightning Mate!

I've just been caught by SWMBO, I'm supposed to be tidying up in the garage, and she spotted from her computer upstairs that I'm online. I can't get anything past her, she's way too smart!

I couldn't find the Peterborough Guardian anywhere, but it has helped me with a piece of a jigsaw I have been puzzling with for years. In looking it up (after being identified by One11), I discovered they also did the Peterborough Ely, which was a widened Aeronca 100. Well, Mechta Senior bought the fuselage of an Ely, with a view to repairing his Aeronca 100, which got squashed when the Bessonneau hangar it was in collapsed on it at Farnborough in the 50s. I had always been looking for it as an Ely 100/300/700 (all designations appear to have been used). Now I've just discovered there was an article about the Peterborough Ely in Aeroplane monthly in 1985.

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