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Superman1 30th Oct 2020 12:16


QLD has the dumbest CHO and premier in Australia’s history.
Yes unfortunately not a great talent pool in QLD, that’s obvious by the excessive number of those who bury themselves in the inflated public service positions up there.Even the police can opt to do overtime on their day off at double dollars by sitting in a marked car with flashing lights on at roadworks.....what a deal! VA HQ is just another good example where most wouldn’t last a day working for a competitive organisation in SYD or MEL, unfortunately down south it wouldn’t be acceptable catching waves by 4pm.

Buster Hyman 30th Oct 2020 14:33


Qantas boss Alan Joyce has slammed the Queensland Government’s decision to keep Sydney banned from the state, saying it was “ridiculous” and warning it would simply drive holiday-makers to other destinations instead.
I think we can safely rule out QF HQ relocating to BNE now.

krismiler 30th Oct 2020 15:36

No UK or US flights planned for the next 12 months.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...o-october-2021

Chris2303 30th Oct 2020 20:19

Sweden

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/cov...RTJKYQB25BLDE/

machtuk 30th Oct 2020 21:19

12 months ago who would have thought that this so called "land of the free" would become so divided and controlled by a bunch of grubby lying lunatics called State Premiers!

Australia's history books just got a chaptor of shear lunacy added!

highflyer40 30th Oct 2020 21:30


Originally Posted by KRviator (Post 10914830)
So, Sweden went from 4,944 deaths on June 08 to 5,934 today, a 20% increase in nearly 5 months, yet in that time, cases went from 71,667 cases to 121,167 a nearly 70% increase. The data doesn't lie, the fatality rate there is dropping substantially, even with increasing cases.

I think you will find with most countries that unlike the first wave where deaths lagged behind by about a month this new wave was started with the return of universities with a lag of about a month to get to the at risk demographic and then the normal month to see the death rate start to increase. The next couple of weeks will see whether that holds true.

Global Aviator 30th Oct 2020 22:42


Originally Posted by krismiler (Post 10915181)
No UK or US flights planned for the next 12 months.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...o-october-2021

Different countries certainly act in different ways. Australia certainly looks like being locked down for some time to come, lucky it is a big country and as all borders open (hopefully) one can at least have domestic tourism. Fly from Brisbane to Broome and flight time is like flying overseas :8. While at the same time other countries like Singapore focus on negative testing and opening the economy.

In my humble opinion S.E.Asia will be back to 'normal' before many other places.

QF international it is a sad state of affairs when a company prefers to park aircraft than chase the work. As has been seen with the government assisted charter flights there is work out there that can be done without loosing money.

Back to ALL BORDERS TO OPEN. Fungers crossed that Straya once again becomes one, that includes that island just off the coast eh cuz, beached az. At least this would fire up tourism and help to revive the airline industry in the country.

Chris2303 30th Oct 2020 23:30


Originally Posted by machtuk (Post 10915363)
12 months ago who would have thought that this so called "land of the free" would become so divided and controlled by a bunch of grubby lying lunatics called State Premiers!

Australia's history books just got a chaptor of shear lunacy added!

From the other side of the Tasman: Who would have thought that Aussies were capable and willing to show so much hatred towards their fellow countrymen/countrywomen. The "lucky country"? I don't think so, Tim

goodonyamate 30th Oct 2020 23:54


Originally Posted by Chris2303 (Post 10915425)
From the other side of the Tasman: Who would have thought that Aussies were capable and willing to show so much hatred towards their fellow countrymen/countrywomen. The "lucky country"? I don't think so, Tim

agree.currently we are an embarrassment.

And the sad part is These bastard premiers will never be held to account for the damage they’ve caused.

wheels_down 31st Oct 2020 02:05


Originally Posted by Global Aviator (Post 10915404)
QF international it is a sad state of affairs when a company prefers to park aircraft than chase the work. As has been seen with the government assisted charter flights there is work out there that can be done without loosing money.
.

How does one make money when your capped at a few dozen per flight. Please go on.

Your tunnel vision is off the charts.

krismiler 31st Oct 2020 02:14

There would be an acceptable level of risk in establishing travel bubbles between countries with low rates of infection and which have demonstrated competence in dealing with the outbreak. Basically: Australian, New Zealand, Singapore,Taiwan, Japan, Thailand, Brunei, China, Hong Kong, Vietnam and possibly one or two more.

Two of the most popular destinations, Bali and Fiji would remain outside due to the high COVID rate in Indonesia, and whilst the rate in Fiji may be low, I’m not convinced they have the capability to monitor and manage the situation.

A whole change in outlook might occur, with Australians visiting countries they never considered before and new areas opening up for trade an investment. The kangaroo route to London will definitely return, but in the meantime there’s some lovely beaches and food in Vietnam.

Global Aviator 31st Oct 2020 03:47

Never let the facts get in the way of a good discussion!
 

Originally Posted by wheels_down (Post 10915479)
How does one make money when your capped at a few dozen per flight. Please go on.

Your tunnel vision is off the charts.

No problem at all Wheels. I do not have the exact costs of the tickets, just a little google and even then probably not entirely correct. A few guestimations in there for sure however it wouldn't be to far from correct.

LHR DRW -

42 Business - call it $4500 (however I am sure I read it was higher) = $189,000.
130 Premium & Economy - call it $2150 (actually $2500 with the taxes, plus Premium was more, however without knowing the exact pax in each class it is guesstimations) = $279,000.
Total revenue on the soft side = $468,000.

Not knowing where the aircraft originated or went after call it 30 hours of flying, $468,000 / 30 = $15,600 per hour.

Now do the sums on India.

As I said I know my numbers are not spot on, however for the argument you can see that it actually does work. No not the rate an airliner would normally want to achieve, however most likely not operating in the loss zone, who knows what the Government tipped in, backroom deals. I didn't see a public tender, did you?

Who has the tunnel vision? Please do correct me if I am wrong.

Back to the borders!

I should have been clearer in what I meant in the first place. Yes the airlines flying into Australia no doubt have their government support. Mind you charging up to 20k for First and not far off it for Business you can't blame the airline, plus no doubt flying around with a belly full of cargo. I have said all along that flying with 30-50 pax is not sustainable. There are however ways to make certain routes work. SQ for instance have been hauling massive amounts of belly cargo in. Without knowing exactly but I would imagine most flights into MEL would be the same as ZERO pax onboard, otherwise why would they be flying?

Ladloy 31st Oct 2020 16:44


Originally Posted by getaway (Post 10914819)
LNP will hopefully win tomorrows qld election.

Not even close.

Ragnor 31st Oct 2020 18:33

WOW! QLD people are a strange bunch of people. Ah well this freight train crashing will be a good watch when these two idiots send QLD back further in to oblivion. QLD you voted don’t complain in 1yr when more of you are unemployed. AP wanted to do a feel good story at Sea World but they denied her as they didn’t support her as they are set to let 1000 staff go.

Slezy9 31st Oct 2020 19:06


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10916009)
WOW! QLD people are a strange bunch of people. Ah well this freight train crashing will be a good watch when these two idiots send QLD back further in to oblivion. QLD you voted don’t complain in 1yr when more of you are unemployed. AP wanted to do a feel good story at Sea World but they denied her as they didn’t support her as they are set to let 1000 staff go.

It’s almost like the majority of QLDers support the Premiers policy’s.

goodonyamate 31st Oct 2020 19:17


Originally Posted by Slezy9 (Post 10916030)
It’s almost like the majority of QLDers support the Premiers policy’s.

Why wouldn’t they. As long as the benefits keep flowing in, QLDers will not bother taking the blinkers off. They’ll just keep expecting the rest of Australia to pick up the tab.

FNQ is farked now. Say goodbye to tourism.

Ragnor 31st Oct 2020 19:38


Originally Posted by Slezy9 (Post 10916030)
It’s almost like the majority of QLDers support the Premiers policy’s.

Hey I agree, I guess they do QLD ppl are a very strange bunch. Like I said I hope they don’t complain in 12 months time when they are into the hole so far that they can’t get out.

Tourist business rejected AP notability Sea World, they didn’t want her there as they didn’t support her they said QLD is not enough to support their industry. So she was left frolicking on a beach. I hope for their sake she has a plan to help them out for the long term. AJ might be on the money other Aussies fed up with it now they will surely plan to holiday else where. I know I am.

But yes QLD ppl support what she is doing. Let’s see how much support she had when JK finishes in March and there is nothing left as borders are closed. As we know she will “slam it shut” if there is one case in regional.

goodonyamate 31st Oct 2020 20:19

What has been becoming more and more evident throughout this, is how spineless the Federal Government are.

Don’t even try and tell me there isn’t a way they could take control.

never been more embarrassed or ashamed to be Australian in my life. in fact ‘Australian’ isn’t even a thing anymore.

Ladloy 31st Oct 2020 20:22


Originally Posted by goodonyamate (Post 10916089)
What has been becoming more and more evident throughout this, is how spineless the Federal Government are.

Don’t even try and tell me there isn’t a way they could take control.

never been more embarrassed or ashamed to be Australian in my life. in fact ‘Australian’ isn’t even a thing anymore.

Even a federal coronavirus plan would be great, let alone border control. Too busy deflecting accusations of corruption

blubak 31st Oct 2020 20:30


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10916009)
WOW! QLD people are a strange bunch of people. Ah well this freight train crashing will be a good watch when these two idiots send QLD back further in to oblivion. QLD you voted don’t complain in 1yr when more of you are unemployed. AP wanted to do a feel good story at Sea World but they denied her as they didn’t support her as they are set to let 1000 staff go.

I take my hat off to the seaworld owners for not allowing her in,why do we continually buckle to these people that we as tax payers pay for.
They might like to play god & tell us how good they are but more of the public need to stand up to their antics.
There are many that criticise certain journalists for showing no respect to the vic premier,well who cares if hes lying,he & all the other premiers are accountable to the public they represent & they have the option to resign if they dont like being asked for the truth.


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