Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10959915)

the Victorian Gov is a disgrace, get yourself sorted and hire resources.

Coronavirus Australia live news: Swamped testing sites turn away thousands

COVID-19 testing sites across Melbourne closed within an hour of opening on Sunday, swamped by thousands of Victorians requiring tests after returning from NSW and further stressed by health staff taking holiday leave.

Despite the temporary closures and lack of staff, Victorian health authorities processed more tests than their NSW colleagues on Saturday — 22,477 samples compared to 18,923 — although that remains far short of the more than 40,000 daily tests undertaken at the height of the second coronavirus wave.

By 9.30am on Sunday, the Department of Health and Human Services listed drive-through sites in Darebin, Keysborough and West Footscray as “over capacity, no further accepted”. Cars were also turned away from the Melbourne Sports and Aquatic Centre in Albert Park, which was listed as a three-hour wait, and sites in Chadstone, St Albans and Broadmeadows had waiting times of more than two hours.But Jeroen Weimar, who is co-ordinating Victoria’s COVID-19 response, defended the long waiting times for testing.

“There was a 35 per cent uplift in the total number of tests delivered in the south and southeastern suburbs yesterday compared to the day before so we are getting the numbers through,” he said. “Our frontline staff have been working phenomenally hard for that entire period and we have seen a significant number of people rightly take some well-*deserved leave as we see across the wider sector, so we have had to gear up and mobilise,” he said.

“The choice we faced before Christmas was, do you hold people over and not let them go on leave after absolutely flogging themselves for nine months (or) do you say, ‘no, you have to stand around the testing stations on the off chance’ … we took a view that we needed to have the right balance of resources.”

The DHHS has identified a number of new exposure sites, with the number of infections in the state reaching 50.

New locations on Sunday included Brighton Beach on December 29 between midday and 3pm, Angus and Cootes Jeweller at Southland Shopping Centre on December 28 between 2.30pm and 2.50pm and the Costco Moorabbin on December 30 between 4pm and 5.50pm.

Queensland Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young said there would not be any border restriction on Melbourne or Victoria “at this stage”. “But we’re keeping a very, very close eye on that,” she said on Sunday, after Victoria reported three new local cases.

Another Melbourne location, Grape & Grain in Moorabbin, which had yet to appear in DHHS warnings, said it would remain closed after staff tested positive.

The DHHS plans to boost testing capacity by extending hours, recalling staff, bringing on board agency staff and opening more pop-up and drive-through sites.

The Victorian branch of the Australian Nursing and Midwifery Federation posted a message on Facebook seeking “urgent support” from nurses and midwives to work in testing sites across the state on behalf of Torrens Health and the health department: “Shift lengths will vary from between six and 10 hours; travel and meal allowances are available in some circumstances.”

“I think 60,000 people made the right decision … to come back; I am confident the vast majority will follow through and say, right, I need to make sure I get tested because I don’t want to put myself at risk,” Mr Weimar said.

Originally Posted by Bodie1 (Post 10960341)

So what are you trying to say?

There are about 33 deaths per million cases in Australia?

So that death rate is about .000033%

If that's the case, why are there border closures? Shouldn't we be dancing in the streets? Hugging and Kissing? Because the death rate is so insignificantly small?

Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10960595)

NSW were able to test over 50,000 a week without missing a beat. They were not expecting those numbers they were as always prepared. I still don’t understand why Vic, QLD and other states are not prepared.

Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10960609)

Are you that much of an idiot? They were averaging over 50,000 a day did over 60,000 in one day Xmas eve.

Originally Posted by blubak (Post 10960608)

50000 a week is a bit different to 32000 in 1 day.

Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10960621)

I know, but he/she could not recognise a typo was made. Guess that’s why Vic is in such a mess.

Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10960621)

I know, but he/she could not recognise a typo was made. Guess that’s why Vic is in such a mess.

Originally Posted by blubak (Post 10960625)

Guess another 32000+ tests in vic yesterday is not a good number,even if it was 132000 it would not be enough for you.

Originally Posted by Bodie1 (Post 10960341)

So what are you trying to say?

There are about 33 deaths per million cases in Australia?

So that death rate is about .000033%

Originally Posted by De_flieger (Post 10960791)

You shouldn’t be criticising the statistics presented by others when you get your own so egregiously wrong. There have been 909 deaths in Australia from covid-19 as of todays date, so if there were 33 per million cases as you state, that would imply Australia had approx 27.5 million cases of covid-19 - that every single person in Australia had been infected, which is clearly not the case. There have been 909 deaths and 28504 cases as of today, giving a death rate of 3.18% of confirmed infections. Entirely different to your statement, which is off by a factor of around 100,000.

Originally Posted by Bodie1 (Post 10960026)

At no stage prior were Victorians warned that if they leave the state they may be subject to this type of action.

Originally Posted by andrewr (Post 10960810)

There were very clear warnings on the 20th December or earlier that:

• The situation in NSW was unpredictable
• The red zone was likely to expand
• If you travel to NSW there was a risk you would not be able to return home.

Many people ignored the warnings, but the idea that there were no warnings is false.

Originally Posted by andrewr (Post 10960810)

There were very clear warnings on the 20th December or earlier that:

• The situation in NSW was unpredictable
• The red zone was likely to expand
• If you travel to NSW there was a risk you would not be able to return home.

Many people ignored the warnings, but the idea that there were no warnings is false.

Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10960841)

Who comes up with these insane rules. Drive from QLD to VIC two stops 15 minutes what about singles do they not matter? Truck drivers can not do that much driving. Hopefully ppl do not attempt this ridiculous feat wouldn’t want to have any road accidents because of it or even worse they crash into someone else. Just another Dan Andrew’s f$&k up.

Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10960868)

That is your choice. There are 1000s who think different to you.

The UK and US must be pissing them self at us. I thought I was Australian not sure what we are called now. 7 cases today and it’s a state of emergency one premier having their constituents do an insane feat to get home another two premiers well one and a deputy having a war of words. I’ve lived in various parts of the world and always been defensive of Australia and how good it is to others. Never in my wildest dream I would know all the premiers names their back grounds and be so defensive about the state I live in.

Originally Posted by Sunfish (Post 10960840)

1A and others, you just don't get it. This is war.

War is basically a learning situation where the side that learns and reacts fastest to new developments overpowers and destroys the opposition. This truism is encapsulated in the saying "no battle plan survives first contact with the enemy" (Helmuth Karl Bernhard von Moltke the elder).

So yes, !A,, they were in the green zone, etc. but the plan changed. Think quick! It's going to change again and again. The only constant is change.

Ever heard the old army slogan "hurry up and wait?"

Originally Posted by Bodie1 (Post 10960771)

Oh my gawd.........that graph proves that lockdowns work? :} So you're using Chairman Dan or Sunfish evidence now?

It must be Sunfish evidence because only a moron would present such stupidity as evidence.

Originally Posted by IWannaFly2020 (Post 10960894)

Why doesn’t all quarantine go to Howard Springs NT?? Isolated, run by the government. No city/urban interaction risk. QF could base 2-3 787’s there and reach 90% of requests. Crew stay in own dedicated hotel with facilities. Situation over. Fed government should take over the issue. Stand up SCOMO.

Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 10960874)

I think the US and UK are pissing themselves..but not at us. The UK is reportedly days away from their hospital system being unable to cope.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....ticle/13031334

Originally Posted by Aussie Bob (Post 10960909)

I am so sad, but I think all you folk on this forum who favour these "border closures" and other draconian measures implemented buy clueless politicians should take a long hard look in the mirror. What you will see is a fearful deluded and disturbed individual unable to accept personal responsibility. How you ever made it to a PIC position eludes me. This flu has a 99.9% survival rate amongst the healthy (have you got a class 1?). The measures you support cause more harm than good.

Sorry, but with respect, that's what I think.