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LapSap 24th Jul 2020 11:41

I may have missed any earlier reference but any thoughts on what they should do with this arrogant POS?

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/7new...-c-1190407.amp

dr dre 24th Jul 2020 13:24


Originally Posted by LapSap (Post 10845115)
I may have missed any earlier reference but any thoughts on what they should do with this arrogant POS?

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/7new...-c-1190407.amp

Shes an anti-science, Qanon supporting, religious fundamentalist calling other people sheeple. One of those types who will argue with cops all day how wearing a mask or quarantine measures violate their “rights endowed by their creator” so the cops end up losing patience and letting them go. With morons like this in the country we’ll never overcome this pandemic.

Here’s another of the “Conscious Truth Network”, other conspiracies they indulge in include moon landing skepticism, 5G truthing and anti-Vaxxerism.

And this kids is what you get if you spend all your spare time getting brainwashed with zany conspiracy theories.....

Bodie1 24th Jul 2020 13:43

And you're a pseudo intellectual dick head dre ;)

Bodie1 24th Jul 2020 13:56

Sayonara **** heads!

Turnleft080 24th Jul 2020 14:14

Why are we discussing this again in a forum about Australian Aviation on a thread about pandemic control measures?
I guess when people get frustrated conspiracy theorists get busy. I'm waiting for the next round of anti-vaxxer, anti-mask or "it's all a hoax" posts.

It's a thread trying to open up the aviation borders.
Man invents sugar, man refines sugar, man eats sugar, man gets obese from sugar, man gets diabetes from sugar and you want a drug to fix his problem.
If we ate properly you wouldn't need a vax in the first place. But since we eat junk, we invent disease and we need science to fix that.
Us homo sapiens are the sickest living species in the universe. Here we are in 2020. You go to the doc, he asses you in 10min, take 2 a day, you'll be right.
Fauci and Sutton are doctors. All you get is social distance and mask up. Have they ever mentioned how to improve your immune system in the last 5 months. Well have they.
The WHO and CDC said masks are useless a few months ago, then suddenly overnight they changed their tune. See how F@#$ the system is.
Can you see now that we are an experiment, we are lab rats. Probably not.

currawong 24th Jul 2020 22:19


Originally Posted by LapSap (Post 10845115)
I may have missed any earlier reference but any thoughts on what they should do with this arrogant POS?

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/7new...-c-1190407.amp

Well, the plod involved should be facing disciplinary action for starters.

Unless of course the regulatory framework in VIC is that rooted that compliance with laws/ lawful direction is optional.

Which would not surprise me....

Mach E Avelli 24th Jul 2020 22:30


Originally Posted by Turnleft080 (Post 10845218)
Why are we discussing this again in a forum about Australian Aviation on a thread about pandemic control measures?
I guess when people get frustrated conspiracy theorists get busy. I'm waiting for the next round of anti-vaxxer, anti-mask or "it's all a hoax" posts.

It's a thread trying to open up the aviation borders.
Man invents sugar, man refines sugar, man eats sugar, man gets obese from sugar, man gets diabetes from sugar and you want a drug to fix his problem.
If we ate properly you wouldn't need a vax in the first place. But since we eat junk, we invent disease and we need science to fix that.
Us homo sapiens are the sickest living species in the universe. Here we are in 2020. You go to the doc, he asses you in 10min, take 2 a day, you'll be right.
Fauci and Sutton are doctors. All you get is social distance and mask up. Have they ever mentioned how to improve your immune system in the last 5 months. Well have they.
The WHO and CDC said masks are useless a few months ago, then suddenly overnight they changed their tune. See how F@#$ the system is.
Can you see now that we are an experiment, we are lab rats. Probably not.

Yes, it's an aviation thread about borders. So what is the relevance of your dietary diatribes? Eating all the garlic in the world won't open the borders. Perhaps we should exclude fat people from flying because clearly they eat too much sugar?

Green.Dot 24th Jul 2020 22:47

Good thread drift Turnleft080! It backs up your first statement well! 🤣

Turnleft080 25th Jul 2020 00:54


Originally Posted by Mach E Avelli (Post 10845544)
Yes, it's an aviation thread about borders. So what is the relevance of your dietary diatribes? Eating all the garlic in the world won't open the borders. Perhaps we should exclude fat people from flying because clearly they eat too much sugar?

Mach - In order to keep flying I have seen a number of pilots been advised my their DAMEs to slim down,
( bring Blood pressure/cholesterol down, which are conditional stress responses not diseases and that stressor is sugar) and they have done that, even some going cold turkey.
I regards to your other sentence, if we ate all the garlic/onion/ginger in the world, and C, and D at least your in a a better fighting chance of recovering quicker, hence borders opening quicker,
hence us hitting TOGA more quicker, than our keyboards.


Stickshift3000 25th Jul 2020 01:22


Originally Posted by Turnleft080 (Post 10845218)
I guess when people get frustrated conspiracy theorists get busy. I'm waiting for the next round of anti-vaxxer, anti-mask or "it's all a hoax" posts.

I bet those anti-vaxxers will be first in line when a COVID vaccine emerges... :rolleyes:


SOPS 25th Jul 2020 06:21

In his daily press conference yesterday, the WA Premier said that WA borders could remain shut until the end of the year. He also ( quite seriously) stated that he could easily see no international travel allowed for the next 2 years.

jrfsp 25th Jul 2020 06:58


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 10845691)
In his daily press conference yesterday, the WA Premier said that WA borders could remain shut until the end of the year. He also ( quite seriously) stated that he could easily see no international travel allowed for the next 2 years.

Thats basically what we're on track for at the moment...

Ladloy 25th Jul 2020 07:14


Originally Posted by Turnleft080 (Post 10845218)
The WHO and CDC said masks are useless a few months ago, then suddenly overnight they changed their tune. See how F@#$ the system is.

New research = new evidence = new procedures

Ragnor 25th Jul 2020 07:18

All these premiers want to close off to each other, this just highlights that Australia has to many states and territories way to many layers of government and red tape. Elimination was never the objective. WA should be open to everyone except VIC and maybe NSW. QLD are handling it fine with NSW people crossing over as frustrating as that premier is with her pigeon chest strutting around and making it political with NSW with moving the border south

Boe787 25th Jul 2020 08:01

As mentioned previously, one could argue that
the evidence that masks were effective has been around for some time, if any of our Politicians or bureaucrats looked at Taiwan.
Taiwan make their own, so perhaps we couldn’t go down that path till now, because we did not have enough to go round.

neville_nobody 25th Jul 2020 08:15


New research = new evidence = new procedures
But nothing changed? The masks are the same and you are still exhaling moisture.

Ladloy 25th Jul 2020 09:17


Originally Posted by neville_nobody (Post 10845758)
But nothing changed? The masks are the same and you are still exhaling moisture.

Australia's reason for not going 100% masks straight away was that there was little to no community spread and it would be a waste to use already low stocks of masks. My medical friends wrre very worried by low stocks on masks and faceshields early into this pandemic.

​​​​​WHO initially had data to say that social distancing and good hygiene was enough to curb the spread but because this is a new type of coronavirus the data was limited on how it spread through droplets. We're now at a point where we're putting all the pieces together and we can learn from all the different approaches taken by different countries. A uncovered sneeze can carry coronavirus up to 8 metres. Two people wearing masks can stop a sneeze from spreading by a considerable margin.

​​​The federal government started so strong in March by following the guidelines of experts but they've been idling for a while now.

Xeptu 25th Jul 2020 10:02

What Ladloy said. I'm not sure they used the term useless, what they meant is they won't protect you from becoming infected and they still won't. In fact if not used correctly may increase the risk of contracting the virus. What they will do though is if you have the virus will reduced the transmission range in the event of a cough and that's whats is considered an advantage.

De_flieger 25th Jul 2020 11:00


Originally Posted by Stickshift3000 (Post 10845610)
I bet those anti-vaxxers will be first in line when a COVID vaccine emerges... :rolleyes:

I bet a lot of them won't...I reckon that if an effective vaccine is developed, the 85 or 95 percent of the population who can get it, mostly will. If that vaccine then stops community transmission the other 1 or 2 percent who are militant anti-vaxxers will loudly proclaim that - despite it being brought about by the very vaccines they are opposing - because community transmission has stopped or the disease is no longer widespread, it proves that the vaccines weren't needed or the disease isn't serious. They'll claim that the lack of widespread disease as a result of the vaccines, shows that the vaccines are unnecessary.

Logic isn't their strong point, just look at Pete Evans, simultaneously claiming that coronavirus is a hoax, and somehow involving Bill Gates and being made to look far worse than it is by the media for some reason, and also selling $15,000 lamps to "protect" against it.

neville_nobody 25th Jul 2020 11:54


Australia's reason for not going 100% masks straight away was that there was little to no community spread and it would be a waste to use already low stocks of masks. My medical friends wrre very worried by low stocks on masks and faceshields early into this pandemic.

​​​​​WHO initially had data to say that social distancing and good hygiene was enough to curb the spread but because this is a new type of coronavirus the data was limited on how it spread through droplets. We're now at a point where we're putting all the pieces together and we can learn from all the different approaches taken by different countries. A uncovered sneeze can carry coronavirus up to 8 metres. Two people wearing masks can stop a sneeze from spreading by a considerable margin.
The advice initially was that if you had corona virus that wearing a mask would prevent you breathing and coughing on people. However if you were negative the masks were pointless as they acted as a way of transmitting because as you exhaled the mask became moist and enabling the virus to attach to the mask. Hence the advice to not wear them unless you were positive.


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