Turnleft080 -

"Hence all your body organs are getting 20% less O2. Well that's really good for your brain."

Given this is a professional pilots forum I would urge you to reconsider that statement.

Or go back to pilot school.

You decide.

Turnleft080...

The whole point of masks is to prevent a pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic infected individual from spreading the virus. Its for the protection of others. Its a demonstration of civility and consideration for others.

Also...your assertion that a gas permeable mask somehow reduces your O2 intake is as astonishing as it is wrong.

Thanks currawong.
Beat me to it.
https://hypoxico.com/altitude-to-oxygen-chart/

Clearly been spending too much time at 8000 ft.

If that’s you, please feel free to ride the HK MTR at peak time without a mask.

I'II have a go at that. The more viruses I'm exposed to the better. That way you start to build up immunity. That way your anti bodies get more stronger.
Here is an interesting thought. Just say you put your new born in a space suit for 10 years and for the first time he/she takes the space suit off.
A cold, dirt under the finger nail, any food past it's used by date could kill. Why? No immunity build up. The immune system will not recognise these foreign bodies.
So before I go to HK,I will dose up on garlic/ginger,onion,Vit C, Vit D, (all that good stuff you get organically) and a stack of fermented food with trillions of good bacteria.
I will not forget to drink 8 glasses of water either. Don't forget what our mate Hippocrates said in 370BC. Food is your medicine and medicine is your food.

PS. I'm listing to a Melbourne radio station (3aw) as I type, they had a 40 year practiced doctor (Dr Ross) on. He mentioned sunlight alone kills Covid-19.
If you sneeze in the open in direct sunlight exposed to UVA/UVB the virus dies instantly within 30sec. If you sneeze inside a closed room the virus will
lurk around for 24 hours +. So when a government closes the beach they got know idea. As I mentioned before governments scare me not the virus.
Goodnight good health.

I've actually seen people take off the mask, take a few deep breaths then put back on again.
I've seen people drive around windows up with a face mask on. It made me suffocate. Got to laugh
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Are you Pete Evans?

If not, you should meet up with him, you have a lot in common and could be friends.

I for one feel better knowing that "the virus dies instantly within 30sec".

Who is Pete Evans? Got no idea. Never herd of him.
However as you mentioned him I googled him. He is a chef. Yes his website mentioned what I mentioned. Well, well, well. How about that.
Their you go I'm 55 and I studied Hippocrates when I had to do an assignment on him in primary school. I have never looked back.
Cheers for the info.

MEL preparing to become the sole entry point into the country very soon. Currently setting up 40+ hotels for quarantine and a hospital to be the dedicated covid hospital.

A week ago I would have said tough on Victorians as borders will remain shut for them but it had the potential to allow the wheels to keep turning in other states, also a bubble between those other states and NZ if they could manage to keep their cases down.
This week Sydney looking just as bad, the country can’t afford to close off the two largest cities for the foreseeable future.

interesting times my friends

To back up your statement remember when the first lockdown occurred at the end of summer and thousands turned up on
Bondi & Manly beaches on that beautiful sunny day. The government or councils said you idiots, where closing the beaches.
Not one case showed up afterwards. Why? Due to UVA/UVB, sunlight penetrating your skin to make Vit D boosting your immune system.
That's why your body is innate. It's intelligent. It's designed to thrive on this planet. Food water oxygen exercise. Simple.
Then a few days later I think a boat called the Ruby Princess docked a boat with no HEPA filters with there air-conditioning.

There was plenty of sunlight available on the Ruby Princess so what does that say about your Vitamin D theory?

I don’t ask for your response for any other reason than a good laugh.

Lets hope the NSW govt ring fence these outbreaks early. I thought this was the plan all along for post curve flattening outbreaks.
I hope they don't sit back like dithering Dan and let the thing get out of control before acting.

Seen the new reports this morning? Think it might be already too late.

govts should stop trying to stop spread but protect the oldies & vulnerable & their carers. Open all borders & all businesses without any restrictions whatsoever.

Because that is working so well...

You notice in Victoria we are now losing health care workers, police and others because they have to self isolate, which by world standards is a pretty small outbreak? To the extent already the plan is to have the ADF driving the ambulances because there will not be enough paramedics? Shortly if they don’t put the genie back in the bottle It won’t matter what is wrong with you. The probability of you dying will increase because you won’t be able to get a cop or paramedic to you in the timeframe you needed.

Ozbiggles your scaring me. You sound like a politician. All doom and gloom. Sounds like catching Covid is an automatic death sentence.
Aus numbers: 10500 cases: 8000 recoverd, 2400 mild condition, 28 in ICU, 111 deaths.
In bold is recoveries. How is that for a good number? Probably healthy people. The mild conditions: the healthy will recover the rest will go to ICU and your looking at 98% recovering.
Those with pre existing morbid conditions still have a chance of survival depending on their immune system. The chances are small for 10500 cases.
Regarding Vit D. Try living in the very high or very low lats with no sun for 6 months.
I think your primary school science teacher once said,"if we didn't have a sun we would not survive."
We would be prone to all viruses end of planet.

Try not to confuse Recovered with Cured, they are very different things. At this point in time, outcome is still a roll of the dice.

Apologies mate, I didn’t mean to selectively quote you, I just did it for the sake of brevity.
But your reply makes me wonder because I did acknowledge your original comment re neighbours.

This is what I said and I still think it’s accurate. I don’t understand your comment about populist clowns and freedumbs.



“Sweden’s death rate while higher than its immediate neighbours is still lower than the UK, Belgium, Germany, Spain and Italy... all of whom locked down. Some other countries that did NOT lock down such as South Korea, Taipei and others have really low death rates.”

Correlation does not prove causation.

I agree, the Australian numbers are good. And that is my point, if we turn them into American numbers percentage wise then not so good.

Im all for the state borders opening and the ‘Tasman bubble’ ASAP, probably a small delay with Victoria now however. I now, used to be, in the aviation workforce. I would like nothing more than to see the remaining pilots flying their backsides off. But I don’t want to see the ‘good’ results we have now turn into what we see overseas.

I watched the ABC Australia American correspondent Kathryn Diss I think it is talking about her experience having just recently caught it in the news today. She looks good and admits it was a mild case. When she talks about it as a mild case it is pretty stuffed up. She still has a pulse rate sitting 20 beats per minute higher than it used to and some other lingering effects. She is 30 years old, listen to her describe what is going on and tell me you wish that on any young person.

As for my primary school science teacher, I think I was staring outside at 747s flying by when she spoke.

55? Really? Couple of months ago you told us you were 60.

Gone back to pilot school yet?

Or do you still think 20% less oxygen is .... well, you know the rest.