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Chronic Snoozer 10th Mar 2022 07:44

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/...10-p5a3hd.html

18000+ cases in WA, just 80 in hospital, none on ventilators. None of this is fascinating except that 50% of those in hospital are unvaccinated.

Ladloy 10th Mar 2022 08:32


Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer (Post 11197640)
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/...10-p5a3hd.html

18000+ cases in WA, just 80 in hospital, none on ventilators. None of this is fascinating except that 50% of those in hospital are unvaccinated.

That is fascinating and differs from other states in terms of vax and unvax ratios

vne165 10th Mar 2022 10:31

They are forecasting the peak in cases within the next week, hospitalisations peak a week or ten days later.
Just seems nothing like watching what happened in the East in recent times.
It's been a very hot summer, record breaking actually.
Lot's of folks here suspect that may be playing a part in the low overall numbers.

Transition Layer 10th Mar 2022 16:02


Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer (Post 11197640)
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/...10-p5a3hd.html

18000+ cases in WA, just 80 in hospital, none on ventilators. None of this is fascinating except that 50% of those in hospital are unvaccinated.

Could it be that unvaccinated even with mild symptoms are being hospitalised out of precaution due to their vaccination status?

BuzzBox 10th Mar 2022 22:05


Originally Posted by Transition Layer (Post 11197901)
Could it be that unvaccinated even with mild symptoms are being hospitalised out of precaution due to their vaccination status?

No, they're being hospitalised because they are seriously ill and need that level of care. Less than two per cent of WA's population is unvaccinated, yet that cohort accounts for around half the hospital admissions to date.

Capn Rex Havoc 11th Mar 2022 13:24

Total and complete scare mongering....... Those numbers in hospital are statistically insignificant. I still can't get my head around why, vaccinated folk are so paranoid and scared to associate with unvaccinated folk.

Bend alot 11th Mar 2022 20:09

Hospitals are also used to isolate people that can not do it where they live - like people from aged care with mild symptoms.

I did not hear the vax status of the last 2 deaths in WA.

They normally get shouted out under 1 condition/status.

WA is said to have BA2 variant of about 50% (it has been in Australia since Jan contrary to the news report yesterday).

Ladloy 11th Mar 2022 21:30


Originally Posted by Bend alot (Post 11198598)
Hospitals are also used to isolate people that can not do it where they live - like people from aged care with mild symptoms.

I did not hear the vax status of the last 2 deaths in WA.

They normally get shouted out under 1 condition/status.

WA is said to have BA2 variant of about 50% (it has been in Australia since Jan contrary to the news report yesterday).

Unless nsw and vic do it differently to WA, I have never heard of mild cases in hospitals to prevent spread.

ChrisJ800 11th Mar 2022 22:24

I moved from Oz to Philippines 5 weeks ago. Best move I ever did. Everyone is getting on with life here. Need to wear masks even outside but bars are all open!

Chronic Snoozer 11th Mar 2022 23:15


Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc (Post 11198401)
Total and complete scare mongering....... Those numbers in hospital are statistically insignificant. I still can't get my head around why, vaccinated folk are so paranoid and scared to associate with unvaccinated folk.

What scaremongering and who's paranoid? They're just statistics.

Turnleft080 12th Mar 2022 03:51


Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc (Post 11198401)
Total and complete scare mongering....... Those numbers in hospital are statistically insignificant. I still can't get my head around why, vaccinated folk are so paranoid and scared to associate with unvaccinated folk.

Speaking of the unvaxed, US airlines will bringing back unvaxed staff. That will be a bit of ammunition for the folk at QF & VA that are taking on their unfair dismissal cases.

https://tickernews.co/airline-compan...-back-to-work/

SHVC 12th Mar 2022 04:59

No not really! America is another country. What goes on there is no precedence for what goes on here.

43Inches 12th Mar 2022 05:01


Employees that were placed on unpaid leave last year because they were unvaccinated against COVID-19, due to a medical or religious exemption will now be able to return to work
That seems to imply that only those that were put on leave with exemptions will be welcomed back, not those that chose not to be vaccinated.


I moved from Oz to Philippines 5 weeks ago. Best move I ever did. Everyone is getting on with life here. Need to wear masks even outside but bars are all open!
Hope that's just a raz up, good luck if you get sick of anything, or are you maintaining your Aussie citizenship so you can evac back to safety on our taxes when your expedition goes awry? There are downsides to the third world you know, like random cities there being held by Islamic extremists etc... hope that's better than not being able to go to a pub, however not sure where that is in Australia at present. I went to the pub yesterday for a meal and drink, sans mask.

I also enjoyed my drink without the threat of a terrorist bombing me or being taken hostage for being foreign looking to be used as a bargaining chip.


Reconsider travel to the Philippines due to COVID-19. Additionally, exercise increased caution due to crime, terrorism, civil unrest, and kidnapping. Read the entire Travel Advisory.
That's the current travel warning for the Philippines. BTW I didn't even think of Covid while enjoying my meal, let alone being in danger. I don't think there's even a place I eat/drink at in Melbourne or Sydney where I even worry about my wallet being stolen.

Bend alot 12th Mar 2022 08:04


Originally Posted by Ladloy (Post 11198653)
Unless nsw and vic do it differently to WA, I have never heard of mild cases in hospitals to prevent spread.

You can not even get what Health advice is based on from NSW or QLD - so you hear nothing for or "against" my friend.

SA, well they got some info FOI - and no delay cops back to work.

The Health Advice was brilliant - take a look.

43Inches 12th Mar 2022 09:25

Aged care in Victoria/NSW will isolate you in your room with covid or close contact, unless you are very high risk, then you will be moved to hospital to be monitored so if you deteriorate you can get the highest level of medical care quickly if needed. The hospital is not used as a quarantine facility.

Wizofoz 12th Mar 2022 21:42


Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer (Post 11198695)
What scaremongering and who's paranoid? They're just statistics.

Rex is scared of statistics that don't fit his narrative.

KRviator 12th Mar 2022 22:01


Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer (Post 11198695)
What scaremongering and who's paranoid? They're just statistics.

You only have to look at the narrative from McGowan or his CHO as regards NSW or Victoria.

"Lockdown like conditions" (because we have to wear a mask indoors, and check in - big woop), "Thousands and thousands of deaths I want to avoid" (While neglecting to mention 48.6% of all returning Australian's came home via Sydney after he wimped out on his agreed "1000 a week", and halved it, then halved it again to only 256). "By watching NSW you can see what works and what doesn’t work. " (Guess bringing home so many people for the good of the nation "doesn't work", eh...

I could go on, but really, what's the point? If you cannot accept that such things have been happening for the last two years, then nothing I say will change your mind...

WingNut60 12th Mar 2022 22:34


Originally Posted by KRviator (Post 11199064)
........................."Thousands and thousands of deaths I want to avoid" .........................

Location Cases Deaths

New South Wales 1.45M 1,975

Victoria 1.12M 2,640

Western Australia 39,226 12 13

Yep, obviously a rabid propagandist
I'm glad I'm not your grandmother


I could go on, but really, what's the point? .................
And yet you do?

Chronic Snoozer 13th Mar 2022 07:05


Originally Posted by KRviator (Post 11199064)
You only have to look at the narrative from McGowan or his CHO as regards NSW or Victoria.

"Lockdown like conditions" (because we have to wear a mask indoors, and check in - big woop), "Thousands and thousands of deaths I want to avoid" (While neglecting to mention 48.6% of all returning Australian's came home via Sydney after he wimped out on his agreed "1000 a week", and halved it, then halved it again to only 256). "By watching NSW you can see what works and what doesn’t work. " (Guess bringing home so many people for the good of the nation "doesn't work", eh...

I could go on, but really, what's the point? If you cannot accept that such things have been happening for the last two years, then nothing I say will change your mind...

I wasn't looking at any narrative and certainly don't look to politicians for narrative. What do the numbers tell us? Well, back of the fag packet calculations tell me that if you are unvaccinated there is a 30-40 times greater chance of contracting COVID and ending up in hospital, based on the numbers quoted in that article. Seems like a good thing nearly 95% of WA is vaccinated.

I also find the WA CHO's letter outlining his recommendations for applying restrictions pre and post border opening to be clear and logical. Seems like things are turning out as projected or better.

https://www.wa.gov.au/system/files/2..._HA_190122.pdf

You can object to the manner in which the outcome is reached however my point was really the outcome.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...44/247/297.png

MLKNWL 28th Jun 2022 08:27

Hope other countries could open their border soon, such as China, otherwise, economics will be a problem. also, slow down the development of the aviation industry.


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