Originally Posted by fl dutchman
(Post 10995036)
Boris in the UK is now saying All over 50s will be offered at least one vaccination by 15 April. Also All adults will be offered one vaccination by July, Meaning all adults will have been offered Two vaccines by Sept/Oct. (About 66 million population)
From what I hear Australia will have vaccinated all adults by Sept/Oct. So does that mean by say October 21 the Australian borders will then open to international travelers from the UK. Allowing people to see there Sons, Daughters, Grandchildren and Parents again. Or is the current situation going to go on forever. One thing will be green-zone routes. This will be end-to-end flights with no transit passengers joining along the way. For example, SQ will not be able to use its SIN hub to have pax join and leave the flights to and from other destinations. Obviously this would favour someone like QF who can operate LHR-PER non-stop. BA or VS could also do the same. Airlines like EK or SQ that rely on exploiting their well-located hubs to fill their planes will continue to be in a world of pain. It is also likely that pre-flight testing will also remain so before boarding airlines will require proof of vaccination along with a negative test within the previous 72 hours. Hopefully 14 days quarantine won't be required on arrival or the whole process is doomed. Realistically, Australia has been very cautious throughout the whole pandemic and I wouldn't be planning on int'l flights before 1 January 2022. |
I really don’t get the need for testing if you’ve had the vaccine. Not saying you’re wrong, but if you’re fully protected, what are you looking for? A new variant?
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Originally Posted by Dannyboy39
(Post 10995098)
I really don’t get the need for testing if you’ve had the vaccine. Not saying you’re wrong, but if you’re fully protected, what are you looking for? A new variant?
Maybe when numbers have come right down worldwide, the risk of an inbound traveller carrying it will be greatly reduced, then the need for pre-flight testing will become unnecessary. |
1/3 Cairns is on Jobkeeper. This wonderful place is on the verge of collapse.
Annastacia nowhere to be seen. |
Originally Posted by Dannyboy39
(Post 10995098)
I really don’t get the need for testing if you’ve had the vaccine. Not saying you’re wrong, but if you’re fully protected, what are you looking for? A new variant?
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
(Post 10995135)
1/3 Cairns is on Jobkeeper. This wonderful place is on the verge of collapse.
Annastacia nowhere to be seen. https://twitter.com/ABCthedrum/statu... |
Originally Posted by morno
(Post 10995118)
The vaccine won’t entirely stop you getting covid from my understanding, it’ll just reduce the effects of getting it. I guess while it’s still so prevalent worldwide, the chance is still there that you can be carrying it.
Maybe when numbers have come right down worldwide, the risk of an inbound traveller carrying it will be greatly reduced, then the need for pre-flight testing will become unnecessary. Hypothetical situation - I have a booking from LHR-DXB-BNE from 6 Dec 2021 (FWIW I have) - I have had two doses of the vaccine, as have all Australians who want one. I then present with asymptomatic Covid-19 which the vaccine is protecting me from getting mildly ill. I have to shell out £150 for a test too, which I can afford, but clearly don't want to pay out. Who am I endangering? Viruses mutate - that is what they do. All vaccines, albeit some less so, protect against disease, but all protect against severe disease. I don't mind getting a little bit sick as long as I don't end up in hospital clearly. |
Hypothetical situation -
Get yourself a fundamental understanding of how vaccines work. :ok: |
Hypothetically if someone was desperate to come for the Ashes they might try their luck convincing whoever they can that it’s in everyone’s best interest that the rules change to accommodate them.
We don’t let other communicable diseases rip through society just because we have vaccines. |
Originally Posted by patty50
(Post 10995248)
We don’t let other communicable diseases rip through society just because we have vaccines.
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Originally Posted by patty50
(Post 10995248)
We don’t let other communicable diseases rip through society just because we have vaccines.
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Originally Posted by currawong
(Post 10995235)
Hypothetical situation -
Get yourself a fundamental understanding of how vaccines work. :ok: |
Originally Posted by patty50
(Post 10995248)
Hypothetically if someone was desperate to come for the Ashes they might try their luck convincing whoever they can that it’s in everyone’s best interest that the rules change to accommodate them.
We don’t let other communicable diseases rip through society just because we have vaccines. So what metric are you waiting for to allow international travel again? Personally, I have no need or desire to travel to Oz anymore, but I don’t quite get what your strategy is. Zero COVID cases? If so you’re never gonna see international travel again. The vaccine will prevent severe disease, but won’t stop transmission. If full vaccination is not good enough for you then what is? There will be future mutations, nothing can be done about that and this virus is going nowhere. Either we learn to live with it, or life even close to what we knew, is over. Personally, I’d like to learn to live with it. Life as it is right now is not for me |
That’s it BA! Each state premier (except Gladys) have installed fear about this virus for their political gain. Now the vaccine is rolling out there must be a common ground for acceptable level of the virus, as there is for others. The problem is the baby boomers and bogans that have all this fear inside them will let those same politicians know. It will be interesting to see what rhetoric McGoose pushes after his March election. Will he stick hard to zero cases then we’ll WA f$&ked royally as they have no work force. I think WA is f$&kef royally anyway as the baby boomers and bogans there will not change their thought process about the virus. Queen P up on the North well her actions are being seen now and her carnage is becoming very apparent everyday, I wonder if she pushed her CMO to make those comments about not realizing that so many ppl travel etc, surely a Dr couldn’t be that stupid!
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Take a trip up to FNQ and have a look at the effects of the lack of tourism.
CNS is deserted. It’s quite sad to see and it’ll take a very long time to restore the confidence of travellers from the Southern states. They’re the ones who spend the big $$$ domestically. |
Yep borders need to come down and concentrate on the national approach.
2021 should be a booming year for domestic tourism. VIC/NSW snow fields for winter, NT/QLD for the dry, remote Australia, WA so much to offer, Tassie. Aus has it all, no not ideal as people like me love overseas travel but for now Aus will do, open the borders, keep them open and promote AUSTRALIAN DOMESTIC TOURISM. |
There's a reason people didn't holiday in Australia pre-COVID, and it hasn't gone away. It's farkin expensive!! Especially so if you have a family and are tied to peak times such as school holidays etc. in an environment where you are a captive market.
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Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was
(Post 10995811)
There's a reason people didn't holiday in Australia pre-COVID, and it hasn't gone away. It's farkin expensive!! Especially so if you have a family and are tied to peak times such as school holidays etc. in an environment where you are a captive market.
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Originally Posted by Global Aviator
(Post 10995782)
Yep borders need to come down and concentrate on the national approach.
2021 should be a booming year for domestic tourism. VIC/NSW snow fields for winter, NT/QLD for the dry, remote Australia, WA so much to offer, Tassie. Aus has it all, no not ideal as people like me love overseas travel but for now Aus will do, open the borders, keep them open and promote AUSTRALIAN DOMESTIC TOURISM. There are so many great destinations in every state that can be enjoyed & right now the places & people that rely on tourism need & want our business. |
Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was
(Post 10995811)
There's a reason people didn't holiday in Australia pre-COVID, and it hasn't gone away. It's farkin expensive!! Especially so if you have a family and are tied to peak times such as school holidays etc. in an environment where you are a captive market.
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