Originally Posted by Scooter Rassmussin
(Post 10990792)
The move away from jobkeeper means nothing to the companies, sure they were able to milk a little for themselves but having the staff lose jobkeeper is no skin off the companies nose .
The only reason I’m not taking any leave is because of jobkeeper. Once jobkeeper ends I will start emptying my leave bank. I’m confident I’m not the only one. |
Scooter and Neville nailed it.
The end of JobKeeper means the end of employment for many. Ironically timed around Easter. Those taking day off payments while others go broke unfortunately typify the sad state of affairs within Australia as a whole. MCD. |
Originally Posted by ruprecht
(Post 10990802)
Yeah, not so sure about that.
The only reason I’m not taking any leave is because of jobkeeper. Once jobkeeper ends I will start emptying my leave bank. I’m confident I’m not the only one. |
Originally Posted by ManillaChillaDilla
(Post 10990805)
Scooter and Neville nailed it.
The end of JobKeeper means the end of employment for many. Ironically timed around Easter. Those taking day off payments while others go broke unfortunately typify the sad state of affairs within Australia as a whole. MCD. What cost to Virgin is there by having its crews stood down for 6 months without pay, vs making them redundant? I mean if they are going to be stood up in 6 months what’s the point of paying out a redundancy? Jayne will do whatever is cheaper in the long term. |
Originally Posted by ManillaChillaDilla
(Post 10990805)
Scooter and Neville nailed it.
The end of JobKeeper means the end of employment for many. Ironically timed around Easter. Those taking day off payments while others go broke unfortunately typify the sad state of affairs within Australia as a whole. MCD. |
Originally Posted by empacher48
(Post 10990606)
Try Level 3 for Auckland and 2 for the rest of the country. Level 4 cannot be put in place for individual provinces and is country wide only.
As in August, because the contact tracing team hasn’t figured out where they got it from, lock down to make sure it’s not being spread through the community without people knowing. Unlike the community cases a few weeks ago, in November and October where the source can be traced back to MIQ, no alert levels were changed because contact tracers and genomic testing could identify a source. If the contact tracing is good enough and you can quickly find the source and close contacts NZ does not change alert levels. When there is no clear source, then yes alert levels change. Compare NZ’s reaction to Victoria or WA, if NZ know where the case came from and close contacts are known (takes no longer than 24 hours for NZ contact tracers to identify close contacts, 48 hours for casual and casual+ contacts), so in the case of the Holiday Inn situation NZ would not have changed alert levels for that. You are also right that it had been eliminated. Reintroduced through a leaky quarantine and eliminated again. I am of the belief that the current method of control, swift, brief restrictions in order for contact tracers to catch up is the best they have come up with so far. It has worked, well and a precautionary 3 or 5 days is stand out better than a reactive 3 weeks or months. |
Originally Posted by ruprecht
(Post 10990822)
My point is that once jobkeeper ends there will be an extra cash drain on the the airlines as some employees start using their leave. I’m unclear whether the airlines have factored this into their cash reserve calculations.
Start about 4 mins in. Sabra Lane mentions aviation specifically, Frydenburg discusses QF cancelling 1500 inbound flights to QLD in January and goes on to say specific industry measures are under consideration now. In other words, I think, DON’T PANIC. https://www.abc.net.au/radio/adelaid...am/am/13133946 |
Originally Posted by ruprecht
(Post 10990822)
My point is that once jobkeeper ends there will be an extra cash drain on the the airlines as some employees start using their leave. I’m unclear whether the airlines have factored this into their cash reserve calculations.
don't bother coming to work till the end of March. What does the construction industry know that we don't? He couldn't could he, put Vic into a 4 week lockdown. The first was called a circuit breaker. He wasn't prepared to make any call today. It was 1 case today. Well I hope I'm wrong, very very wrong, though if cases are 1 tomorrow and the next I wonder what the hell Dan is going to say on Wed. Maybe I'm tapping into Dan's brain to much and he might just think 'well job keeper ends in March, why not March. That's time on my side'. This guy loves stress and he enjoys applying stress to others. |
Originally Posted by Lockhart
(Post 10990847)
though if cases are 1 tomorrow and the next I wonder what the hell Dan is going to say on Wed. . ‘UK Strain’ ‘This isn’t the 2020 Virus we are dealing with here’ ‘For all we know it could be spreading like wildfire’ ‘We need to be absolutely sure’ ‘I don’t apologise for taking the medical advice’ Extend for a further 9 Days. :hmm: |
Remember he has a ticking clock on his emergency powers and they expire in a couple of weeks.
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About 3 weeks ago wasn't their a chap 26yo that had the UK strain went to a stack of places in the Glen Waverley area
such as Bunnings, Dan Murphy's then when found out that he had the virus isolated though all the hot spots he visited produced no other cases. No lockdown then and 2 cases today connected to the Holiday Inn so no community transmission. If the same tomorrow then lockdown should and will end tomorrow. |
Originally Posted by C441
(Post 10990307)
I'm not sure that facilities suitable for a few hundred US Marines would necessarily be equally suitable for families, including children, returning from o/s.
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Judging by his lack of composure under the pressure of an interview, no surprise he can’t keep a clear mind during the decisions/or lack of he has made since Jan 2020. 2 or more cases tomorrow and the lockdown fun will continue I reckon. |
Originally Posted by Green.Dot
(Post 10991303)
Nice work Leigh, very valid questions for the struggling businesses.
Judging by his lack of composure under the pressure of an interview, no surprise he can’t keep a clear mind during the decisions/or lack of he has made since Jan 2020. 2 or more cases tomorrow and the lockdown fun will continue I reckon. |
Assuming no new community transmission by tomorrow night I think we will unlock. The lockdown plan assumed a hundred or more new cases, we aren't anywhere near that......yet.
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Originally Posted by Sunfish
(Post 10991333)
Assuming no new community transmission by tomorrow night I think we will unlock. The lockdown plan assumed a hundred or more new cases, we aren't anywhere near that......yet.
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Barely a grilling..
When he stated this isn’t the 2020 virus but the “highly contagious” UK variant, that is about to run rampant - why does no one challenge? Unbelievable the crap these guys are allowed to sprout unchallenged. So many people are absolutely buying into the continuing fear campaign BS. We are a dumb bunch here in Aus nowadays. |
Even dumber that we will be one of the last countries to be vaccinating. Two have full approval but they’re still fluffing around first jab scheduled 25th Feb.
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist
(Post 10991380)
Barely a grilling..
When he stated this isn’t the 2020 virus but the “highly contagious” UK variant, that is about to run rampant - why does no one challenge? Unbelievable the crap these guys are allowed to sprout unchallenged. So many people are absolutely buying into the continuing fear campaign BS. We are a dumb bunch here in Aus nowadays. Yes the B117 variant is more highly contagious. So why hasn’t it easily spread in Australia? A couple of reasons. Workers in high risk jobs were maintaining social distancing aware of their higher risk probably. Good contact tracing and quick testing. Hotter weather also means less chance of spread. But the answer isn’t to look the other way and let it spread just because it’s warm, as a latent amount of virus in the community could explode by winter, and whilst the vaccine is on the way the program won’t be completed by October. So you can see the logic in stopping this variant (or any variant really) not being allowed to spread around even at a low level now. |
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