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RollThroughApproved 18th Nov 2023 00:06


Originally Posted by Chuck_YeagerBomb (Post 11541170)
High time, current Boeing guys who left the QF group less than 2 years ago? I know of at least one who got the ‘no’. Not even psych testing, the unwritten 24 month rule must still be in place 🤷🏼

Happened on the last EOI too to some really good candidates. Even guys who moved on (without malice or a temper tantrum) from subsidiaries because of the uncertainty of COVID were given no emails.

Fridayflyer 18th Nov 2023 07:18

What are the likely fleet and base allocations at the moment?

morno 18th Nov 2023 12:25

Quite frankly, it could literally be on anything just about anywhere at the moment. The exceptions maybe Brisbane base, Adelaide, and Perth 737.

SandyPalms 18th Nov 2023 12:41


Originally Posted by morno (Post 11541465)
Quite frankly, it could literally be on anything just about anywhere at the moment. The exceptions maybe Brisbane base, Adelaide, and Perth 737.

Looks, at the moment, like Perth is full in all categories. Brisbane will always be full, and Adelaide seems to be finished. Maybe Paris will change things for Perth, but I'd plan on Sydney or Melbourne (S/O or 737 F/O) then you won't be disappointed.

RollThroughApproved 19th Nov 2023 00:04

Anyone think they will revisit DE on the A380?

soseg 19th Nov 2023 01:46

There’s F100 or A320 FO positions in Perth if you’re keen on the west.

ShandywithSugar 19th Nov 2023 02:39


Originally Posted by soseg (Post 11541819)
There’s F100 or A320 FO positions in Perth if you’re keen on the west.

Wrong thread soseg

This is Qantas Recruitment , not subsidiary recruitment.

dr dre 19th Nov 2023 05:32


Originally Posted by SandyPalms (Post 11541473)
Looks, at the moment, like Perth is full in all categories. Brisbane will always be full, and Adelaide seems to be finished. Maybe Paris will change things for Perth, but I'd plan on Sydney or Melbourne (S/O or 737 F/O) then you won't be disappointed.

Every few months there’s base transfers for SOs. So if you want to end up in BNE or PER as an SO is to try to get allocated initially to the 330/350 for the former or 787 for the latter, commute for a while then within 6-12 months or so a base transfer should happen.

There’s no 787 planned flying out of BNE for a long time so there’ll be no SO growth there.

morno 19th Nov 2023 07:27


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11541855)
Every few months there’s base transfers for SOs. So if you want to end up in BNE or PER as an SO is to try to get allocated initially to the 330/350 for the former or 787 for the latter, commute for a while then within 6-12 months or so a base transfer should happen.

There’s no 787 planned flying out of BNE for a long time so there’ll be no SO growth there.

Apparently an oversupply of 330 SO’s in Brisy as well, so I doubt there’ll be any transfers to there for a while.

RealSatoshi 19th Nov 2023 08:19


Originally Posted by Chuck_YeagerBomb (Post 11541170)
High time, current Boeing guys who left the QF group less than 2 years ago? I know of at least one who got the ‘no’. Not even psych testing, the unwritten 24 month rule must still be in place 🤷🏼

From what I hear, this seems to be a common trend and not just applicable to ex QF group pilots, but the majority of highly experienced high time pilots with real world, not just red-rock experience.

It seems the TAFE qualified Talent Acquisition gate-keepers missed the TAFE week (or day), where 'Cost-of-Experience and the lack thereof...' was discussed. In turn, they are focussing all their energy on young Yes-Men (and Women). Most probable that with all going on around the island, QF IR have finally figured out that those who come with real world experience, also expect real world conditions and are quick to raise their hands and vote down substandard EBA proposals, therefore choosing not to stack the deck against themselves by employing this cohort :E

On Guard 19th Nov 2023 09:03


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11541855)
Every few months there’s base transfers for SOs. So if you want to end up in BNE or PER as an SO is to try to get allocated initially to the 330/350 for the former or 787 for the latter, commute for a while then within 6-12 months or so a base transfer should happen.

There’s no 787 planned flying out of BNE for a long time so there’ll be no SO growth there.

I’m starting in Feb and we are happy to live in MEL or SYD. Is SYD the better choice for us to settle long term, ie I assume most fleet types will have basings there as I progress up the seniority list?

aussieflyboy 19th Nov 2023 09:31


Originally Posted by On Guard (Post 11541965)
I’m starting in Feb and we are happy to live in MEL or SYD. Is SYD the better choice for us to settle long term, ie I assume most fleet types will have basings there as I progress up the seniority list?

Live where you and more importantly your family want to live. If you put this job ahead of them you’ll regret it when (and it will be when with this mob!) the job let’s you down.

dr dre 19th Nov 2023 09:37


Originally Posted by On Guard (Post 11541965)
I’m starting in Feb and we are happy to live in MEL or SYD. Is SYD the better choice for us to settle long term, ie I assume most fleet types will have basings there as I progress up the seniority list?

QF is a career airline and in the long run there’s probably only a few years difference between bases in terms of which one gets promotions quicker and in a 20-30 year career it probably won’t seem too different.

Commands or different aircraft may come quicker in one base this year, somewhere different the next and somewhere totally different in 10, 20 years time. They were close to staring a Singapore base in the mid 2000s, a London base was talked about a long time ago, who knows where in the future?

You may end up commuting at some point to get a quicker promotion, obviously commuting is easier in LH, some manage to pull it off in SH successfully however. I would hazard a guess and say most pilots would undergo at least one commute at some point during their career.

Your decision on where to live is probably more geared to where you and your family desire to live and where you can afford to live, and how far you are willing to commute to work via car or aircraft. You can live in a rural area if you want, might make taking a SH job with day trips a bit difficult. There’s some QF pilots who commute successfully from other countries.

Beer Baron 19th Nov 2023 09:42


Originally Posted by RealSatoshi (Post 11541940)
From what I hear, this seems to be a common trend and not just applicable to ex QF group pilots, but the majority of highly experienced high time pilots with real world, not just red-rock experience.

It seems the TAFE qualified Talent Acquisition gate-keepers missed the TAFE week (or day), where 'Cost-of-Experience and the lack thereof...' was discussed. In turn, they are focussing all their energy on young Yes-Men (and Women). Most probable that with all going on around the island, QF IR have finally figured out that those who come with real world experience, also expect real world conditions and are quick to raise their hands and vote down substandard EBA proposals, therefore choosing not to stack the deck against themselves by employing this cohort :E

That certainly doesn’t seem to be the case. The new guys and girls I’m flying with week in, week out are seriously experienced.
A350 check and training Captain, F35 pilot/trainer, A330 MRTT Captain, etc. 95% are coming from another airline. I can’t remember the last time we hired an instructor or a charter/piston twin pilot. No disrespect to the latter, just observing the recruits coming through.

RealSatoshi 19th Nov 2023 11:39


Originally Posted by Beer Baron (Post 11541996)
That certainly doesn’t seem to be the case. The new guys and girls I’m flying with week in, week out are seriously experienced.
A350 check and training Captain, F35 pilot/trainer, A330 MRTT Captain, etc. 95% are coming from another airline. I can’t remember the last time we hired an instructor or a charter/piston twin pilot. No disrespect to the latter, just observing the recruits coming through.

True - my reference was towards the latest round of No's that went out last week and rightfully so, could be skewed as a sample in size and makeup...

morno 19th Nov 2023 15:17

That’s a nice conspiracy theory you’ve got going on there Satoshi, but I think you’re a long way off the mark.

Similar stories to the round last year, but as has been said, a lot of very highly experienced pilots got hired.

SandyPalms 19th Nov 2023 21:13

Just like most posts on this website, it’s just made up Bull****.

Ed.flybus 19th Nov 2023 22:49

Type-Rated A220 First Officer for Qantas?
 
Hi Guys,I hold an ICAO ATPL license with a Type Rating for A319/320/321, and I have accumulated a total flight experience of 1800 hours, with over 1600 hours specifically on the A320. I am currently seeking employment with another airline, and I have discovered that Qantas is currently recruiting Type-Rated A220 First Officers for foreigners. Would it be wise for me to invest in an A220 type rating course at my own expense and apply to Qantas?

Swept-Wing 20th Nov 2023 00:34

Absolutely couldn’t be further off the mark Satoshi.
haven’t heard of a ‘GA types’ getting the nod since circa 2018.
in fact my internal friends starting recently with thousands of hours jet time are telling me they are the least experienced on their course!

RealSatoshi 20th Nov 2023 01:25

Could / Should / Would be wrong...who knows :cool:

Do find it interesting that people of a certain demographic get culled before any form of testing and/or intervention. The one's I've spoken to (not hearsay) must be dyslexic or something, having made multiple spelling mistakes on their applications, or otherwise how would those experience levels get 'filtered' out so effortlessly :}

...anyway, not my Beef not my Bacon.


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