Absolutely no guilt here - what the C suite does is their business. I just fly the jets and smile wider every fortnight.

As Qatar Airways is a fully funded arm of the Qatari government, I guess all those expats working for Qatar are supportive of the human rights abuses in that country too. :rolleyes:

I believe pre-Bain VA had a higher min guarantee but with QF you could earn more if you worked up to max hours.

Now QF comes out ahead on both fronts.

If you traced the ethical decisions of businesses and governments all the way to the top you won’t find many employers who can claim have a totally clean record.

Bain Capital for instance has a notorious record for taking over businesses, sacking workers, destroying standards and then escaping with a hefty payout just prior to that business going bankrupt.

It’s always hilarious to see John Sharp crying about favouritism for Qantas given his former LNP buddies provided the start up financing for his jet operation.

Ans so and and so forth. If you want to find a completely ethical employer you are going to be searching for a long long time…..

Pre 2021 (Pre Bain) Virgin 737 crew were on a higher base (~240k)but with a much higher OT trigger. For a 70 hour roster I think QF crew were ahead by about 20~30 %

Post 2021 737 CPT base is ~205K but trigger is now 57.5 hrs / 28 days. Plenty of work so some have flogged themselves and reached ~310K (some maybe even more). Numbers don't include allowances & super. 12 days off in 28 (13 if rostered less than 65 hrs)

HOWEVER roster bidding is crap, long duties and min rest at or close to FDP limits.

Hypothetically, if you are on the hold file for qlink, can you apply to mainline and interview for them? Or would you need to withdraw your qlink application?

QF ML Recruitment
 

Hiya All,

Anyone have any news or insider info on when QF ML will be recruiting for externals?
Currently working for Air NZ and looking to come back to Australia for more of a lifestyle change having lived there previously.

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance :)

No concrete dates. They’re still allocating start dates to the current hold file. Some internals have start dates all throughout next year. My guess would be they have enough now on hold to not have to reopen applications for externals until sometime next year.

But what will be certain is that in the long term (beyond the next 6 months) they will definitely need to reopen applications as future projected hiring is substantial. Bare minimum 1500 new hires over 10 years.

Thanks for that mate. Much appreciated!!

Does anyone know when the benefits of staff travel kick in for ML? Is there a certain amount of time you must wait after beginning training or is it immediate ?

QF Day 1. Interline 6 months

I assume this is day 1 of training and what do you mean by interline ?

Yes avbl from day 1 but in saying that it will take approx 2 to 7 days to get access ( IT thing). Interline = other carriers (emirates etc).

Rumour the subsidiaries are going to go hard for group seniority , it’s a total injustice that there’s not a seamless transition to mainline .
Im surprised mainline isn’t going all widebody , as Australian airports are capacity constrained wouldn’t it be more sensible to send larger aircraft less often to major airports , also requires less staff overall .

they can go as hard as they like. It just won’t happen

Has anyone been given start dates recently?

Sure, make them all go through the same interview process that everyone else has to do, then give them a number on the bottom. Otherwise why should they get a number on the list when they haven’t had to pass the same standard as the rest of the mainline pilots?

Yes. Nov and Dec are filled.

This line fascinates me, what exactly is the 'same standard'?

Seems to be an element of superiority in that reference. Are mainline pilots a true cut above every other QF group pilots, are they better suited for swept wing aircraft or turbofan operations?

Please help me, what is the standard?

The Dash 8 subsidiaries aren’t going for it as an EBA issue.

It involves communication with the QF pilot councils (who effectively control their respective seniority lists).

Any discussions have been around ways in which to improve or streamline the recruitment process into QLink or help recruit or retain crew into the C&T ranks. Plenty of crew have said that if they could get LWOP from QF once they started, they would stay in QLink in the short term.

The result would be that QF would then have a list full of crew on LWOP waiting for their preferred base/fleet to come up which isn’t ideal.

At the moment, crew believe the best way into QF from QLink is to not make yourself too useful. There’s crew on the hold file who will not apply to the C&T department for fear that they will become too valuable and find their “tentative” course dates pushed back.

There’s also F/O’s who are close to command but will not take one due to the bond payments that may be required when their number at QF comes up.

It’s called an interview mate, I never inferred flying standard.

Why should a subsidiary pilot be able to get in interview free? Fair enough not much point doing a sim, because there’s a record of that in the system.