Looks like the old adage that you work for the Regional of the opposition still holds true. If you enter a group regional your whole career is now controlled by the airline.

Any idea how the cadets that did their training in Toowoomba will come into the mix? External? Internal? Used as back-fill for the subsidiaries that lose crew to mainline?

Ideally they will be offered positions at Hardys/Aviair/Hinterland ect. for a fixed 5-7 year contract enabling them to gain invaluable piloting skills before being offered a position with a high capacity airline…

I don't think the current version of the cadet scheme is anywhere near the same as the old version, which included industry placement. The current one seems like a fast food franchise (operations conducted by a third party but with visits from head shed to keep an eye on things, some mentoring and to validate the logo on the front door). Two graduates were in a recent QLink intake of Dash 8 FOs.

Which would defeat the entire purpose of a cadetship so it's not going to happen.

Qantas used to run cadetships. This is not one.

I always wondered how that would work. Not surprised if true. I can imagine the sheer numbers from within the group. You'd think nearly all of Qlink, All JQ FO's (maybe even some younger captain's if they are sick of the bull**** at that place) and a big percentage of EFA too. Hell, if you are in the lower half of the seniority list at VA you would too.

Looks like Jetstar have opened their cadetship again as well. Things are starting to move!

That's not that entirely true anymore Gazza. I know many that have gone through the group.
Most likely it will be only way into mainline soon using group airlines as feeders to mainline that way retaining their people for longer. I heard that it is their plan to make that happen 🤷‍♂️.

Something I've always pondered. Visited Tamworth when QF cadets were going through and was told a story by management about two lads raised in Sydney who were given placement with a Darwin operator. Lads refused because no social life to be had, hick town etc etc Never thought to ask at the time, but would they have crueled their QF career?

That's a myth

Back on topic, rumour is external recruitment to begin very soon.

Might be a good time to get a Saab job over the next year or so…

There will be plenty available regardless of how many Qantas take.

and we Open to externals.....Hows that EBA going REX????

https://qantas.wd3.myworkdayjobs.com...Officer_R78496

Open to all now

So how many have applied so far? 😅

Does participation in a training and checking programme, satisfy qantas requirement for a current IPC?

Contact Recruiting for a definitive answer, but given the majority of previous recruits came directly from existing multi crew jet and turboprop operators under cyclic training programs then the answer should be yes.

This is backed up by CASA:

There are 4 other ways to have a valid IPC. These are:

• pass the instrument rating flight test within the previous 12 months
• pass a flight test for an instrument endorsement that you did more than 6 months after the initial instrument rating flight test
• complete an operator proficiency check that covers IFR operations conducted by a flight examiner
• take part in a training and checking system conducted by an operator who has a 61.040 approval.

You must carry out these options in the relevant aircraft.

Apparently QF recruitment have found over 50% of their hold file is no longer interested. Many have gained regional Jet commands (Network/Alliance/NJS ect.) and feel QF International is too risky of a job.