Only if you have the right to live and work in Australia. They shouldn’t (and I don’t believe will) provide sponsorship because we are in no way short of qualified pilots.

Any further news on the hold file re-establishment for 2022? Any courses planned / offers sent out yet for those who responded to the EOI?

Recruitment to restart in Feb, some pilots on hold file have already been contacted.

Yet there are over 200 mainline pilots still one leave without pay. B747 RIN not complete. Most of the A380 pilots still stood down. No orders of new aircraft. Massive amounts of flying palmed off to Network and Cobham.

Strange how there is a rumour about recruiting..... I am calling BS.

And then there is the new variant out of South Africa. Already the public is screaming for border closures and lockdowns to start again.

Most of the pilots on LWOP were offered the chance to come back but declined. 78 training is at max capacity and divisor is about to be at max. Yes recruitment is planning to start early next year.

Every 787 flight is planned to have two S/Os. They have 150+ Captains and F/Os on the fleet once the current training vacancies are filled. This would logically mean they need close to 300 S/Os. They currently have less than 180 and that includes those currently on LWOP.

The A330 fleet now has it’s pre Covid number of S/Os. It’s long haul flying is scheduled to increase post Covid indicating an increased demand of S/Os on that fleet also.

Of course all this presumes the new variant isn’t the big deal it’s currently being made out to be.

I spoke to 3 LWOP pilots in the last 90 minutes.

None of them have had any contact from the company offering them re-employment. Quite the opposite actually - two of them told me the last email they got in mid-October said we will get in touch with you in 2024.

So, why just throw these pilots in the bin ? Maybe better to hire new ones who will be more compliant with the upcoming contract cuts or subscribing to the cult of keg (or cult of Alan)..

And you can just about guarantee that regardless of if the new variant is 'bad' or not, the state premiers will use it to score points and further decimate the airline industry in Australia.

Especially in the lead up to the federal election. It's already started in Queensland.

No they’re not! No one is screaming to close up and do lockdowns again in Australia.

Domestic borders will not close again public are fed up with it and 72.4% and increasing of the population have done what was asked. No state gov would be able to justify it.

I would not rule out an international border closure again tho, I would expect a press conference from the PM in the coming days updating the country on this new variant and possible impact it may have on Australia.

We’ll I’ve already flown with S/O’s who’ve come back from LWOP early and have a good friend who has done similar on the 380.

The Head of Base Ops emailed all pilots in October saying that 787 S/O’s on LWOP will be coming back in December (unless PER based) and 330 S/O’s in Jan. There may be exceptions for guys who took contracts at Group airlines as I believe there were some minimum commitments as part of those opportunities.

I’d suggest the 3 pilots you spoke to may need to be a bit more proactive if they actually want to come back sooner, or possibly they don’t and that is why QF will start recruiting.

Is not bs. Have been directly contacted ask if I still wanted a position there. They are clearly firing up the recruitment process soon.

If there is something wrong with my numbers mohikan? Feel free to correct them. I note that you did not.

Though at least you’re consistent. The one thing I’ve learned over the years is that I can always count on you to go personal instead of discussing the subject matter at hand.

Will Qantas ever hire directly onto their 737s? Or do they always have enough supply from their SO ranks?

Last time around new hire SOs were told 737 slots in some bases would be available immediately upon joining the company during the application process. When they started employment they were told to bid for the 737, and then were awarded slots straight away, so they never did any training for their assigned SO aircraft.

There’s a legal/industrial thing with the award preventing direct hire FO at the moment, but that process works in practice to basically make it so.

Feedback from trainers was pretty much all of these quasi direct entry FOs had substantial jet or heavy turboprop experience immediately prior to joining, so training them to RHS on a 737 was much easier than a 10-20 year SO.

It’s a good thing Australia and QF in particular are immune from pilot shortages. In the US, United just had 133 unfilled command positions in their latest vacancy bid.


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QANTAS Second Officer Applications are open as of today for internals. Closes Sunday 6th March.

GOOD LUCK EVERYONE

Let the battles begin and the games from HR commence.

Good luck all

Airnz opened Regional also. Pilot shortage bring it onnnnnnnnn, Balls back in our court friends

Any word on externals?

apparently a new policy, to not take more than 1 employee per company per ground school