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roundhouse 9th May 2024 01:16


Originally Posted by mig3 (Post 11651752)
I'm glad that approach worked out for you in 1999. In the current hiring environment this is just bad advice.

For internal candidates, remember there is a two year moratorium before being eligible for re-hire within the group.


I thought it was 18 months?

Gas Chamber 9th May 2024 01:19


Originally Posted by mig3 (Post 11651752)
I'm glad that approach worked out for you in 1999. In the current hiring environment this is just bad advice.

For internal candidates, remember there is a two year moratorium before being eligible for re-hire within the group.

It doesn’t need to be a hard conversation. Just explain your situation and be polite.
I didn’t put ANY pressure on them, just made an inquiry about my application and expected timeframe.
QF are very sneaky with the treatment of internal applications. It’s not right.

mig3 9th May 2024 01:23


Originally Posted by Gas Chamber (Post 11651755)
QF are very sneaky with the treatment of internal applications. It’s not right.

This is true, I agree.

B7779 9th May 2024 01:39

Any updates on how far ground school dates have been assigned till?

roundhouse 9th May 2024 01:39

Have any calls gone out in the past few days?

IFerr 9th May 2024 10:40

Have any internals heard back? It was suggested 4 weeks until getting a response, 7 weeks post interview and nothing..

Ck. 10th May 2024 00:17

Appreciate the feedback and opinion given by everyone so far.


Originally Posted by Gas Chamber (Post 11651755)
QF are very sneaky with the treatment of internal applications. It’s not right.

If it was a guaranteed start I would easily stay. At the moment I’m pretty torn on deciding whether to move across to double my salary and not worry about the financial side of starting a family, or hope that nothing happens for the next 2-3 years that could slow down the hiring or even stop the process.

Gas Chamber 10th May 2024 03:23

All the comments make you realise the risk/reward for crew no longer stacks up. Airlines abuse the seniority system, as they know we won’t leave.
It really is time for PIA across the board.
Even QF hiring practices need to be addressed…this posters situation is a perfect example of a broken system.
One seniority list for red tails. End of story. Stop using subsidiaries to undermine and control us.

JamieMaree 10th May 2024 03:57


Originally Posted by Gas Chamber (Post 11652300)
All the comments make you realise the risk/reward for crew no longer stacks up. Airlines abuse the seniority system, as they know we won’t leave.
It really is time for PIA across the board.
Even QF hiring practices need to be addressed…this posters situation is a perfect example of a broken system.
One seniority list for red tails. End of story. Stop using subsidiaries to undermine and control us.


You’ve got to stop listening to those fairies at the bottom of the garden.

The Flying Fencer 10th May 2024 07:23


Originally Posted by mig3 (Post 11651752)
I'm glad that approach worked out for you in 1999. In the current hiring environment this is just bad advice.

For internal candidates, remember there is a two year moratorium before being eligible for re-hire within the group.


I did this for a similar situation I had. Worked for me. Just be polite about how you word it. 🤷‍♂️

JamieMaree 11th May 2024 05:02


Originally Posted by Gas Chamber (Post 11652542)
you truly are a tool. What’s your background legend?
bean counter?
Definitely didn’t make it as a pilot…that is crystal clear. So bitter.

I was a toolmaker. I worked with a few tools.
I socialised with a few tools.
I considered being a flying spanner.
I never listened to the pixies though.

WannaBeBiggles 11th May 2024 23:15


Originally Posted by B7779 (Post 11651757)
Any updates on how far ground school dates have been assigned till?


Originally Posted by roundhouse (Post 11651758)
Have any calls gone out in the past few days?


Originally Posted by IFerr (Post 11651962)
Have any internals heard back? It was suggested 4 weeks until getting a response, 7 weeks post interview and nothing..

Trying to bring the conversation back on track, I'm sure there are plenty of people that might be more interested in responses to the above.

helispotter 13th May 2024 08:50

I was half listening to an interview with Adam Jacob, co-founder of Hatch, on ABC News channel about an hour ago. The discussion concerned a survey Hatch had conducted of Gen Z employees. One finding was that the people surveyed generally preferred higher pay over job 'perks'. He was asked which companies were thought of more highly. He mentioned there was a top 20(?) list of such companies, both major and minor. The only one I thought I heard him mention was Qantas. Did I hear right??

I tried to look up an equivalent item on the internet and the nearest I could find was the start of a recent "The Age" subscriber only article that must relate to the same survey:

https://amp.theage.com.au/technology...10-p5jclp.html

Pearly White 13th May 2024 09:41


Originally Posted by helispotter (Post 11654195)
I was half listening to an interview with Adam Jacob, co-founder of Hatch, on ABC News channel about an hour ago. The discussion concerned a survey Hatch had conducted of Gen Z employees. One finding was that the people surveyed generally preferred higher pay over job 'perks'. He was asked which companies were thought of more highly. He mentioned there was a top 20(?) list of such companies, both major and minor. The only one I thought I heard him mention was Qantas. Did I hear right??

I tried to look up an equivalent item on the internet and the nearest I could find was the start of a recent "The Age" subscriber only article that must relate to the same survey:

https://amp.theage.com.au/technology...10-p5jclp.html

FWIW, the Hatch Top 20 list is here: https://www.hatch.team/companies

Chronic Snoozer 13th May 2024 10:39

Hatch is an AI-driven job placement agency of which QANTAS is a client. No surprise then it appears in the Top 20 list alongside other Hatch client firms. No surprise either that engineers and pilots are not advertised roles for QANTAS, appearing on Hatch’s website.

helispotter 13th May 2024 10:41


Originally Posted by Pearly White (Post 11654225)
FWIW, the Hatch Top 20 list is here: https://www.hatch.team/companies

Thanks for digging Pearly White. So indeed Qantas was included in the top 20 this year: https://www.hatch.team/hotlist-2024

The blurb for them has: "Gen Z love... That Qantas Group give opportunities for people to grow and develop in supportive environments across aviation, marketing, technology and more."

OK, so I have never worked for Qantas so can't make my own assessment, but it isn't the vibe I pick up from what I read in the media. I wonder if this is a case of "cash for comments" or that Gen Z staff who were surveyed generally DO have such an experience at Qantas? I guess no Gen Z former Qantas ground staff were included in the survey in any case...

Ollie Onion 13th May 2024 20:21


Originally Posted by helispotter (Post 11654263)
Thanks for digging Pearly White. So indeed Qantas was included in the top 20 this year: https://www.hatch.team/hotlist-2024

The blurb for them has: "Gen Z love... That Qantas Group give opportunities for people to grow and develop in supportive environments across aviation, marketing, technology and more."

OK, so I have never worked for Qantas so can't make my own assessment, but it isn't the vibe I pick up from what I read in the media. I wonder if this is a case of "cash for comments" or that Gen Z staff who were surveyed generally DO have such an experience at Qantas? I guess no Gen Z former Qantas ground staff were included in the survey in any case...


Qantas bends over backwards to accommodate GEN Z etc, everyday we are bombarded with emailed regarding LGBTQ+ days, First Nation Days, Mental Wellbeing Days and many more. Qantas has a truely WOKE corporate culture who love to publicise just how open and welcoming they are to all comers all while turning the screws in terms and conditions of frontline workers.

Ladloy 13th May 2024 21:13


Originally Posted by Ollie Onion (Post 11654582)
Qantas bends over backwards to accommodate GEN Z etc, everyday we are bombarded with emailed regarding LGBTQ+ days, First Nation Days, Mental Wellbeing Days and many more. Qantas has a truely WOKE corporate culture who love to publicise just how open and welcoming they are to all comers all while turning the screws in terms and conditions of frontline workers.

Newscorp is also on that list and they're the group that defines 'woke' culture to the masses so I find it hard to believe that it's the case.

Gas Chamber 13th May 2024 21:32

They’re more than happy to give office new hires first class high priority travel day one.
all while telling their pilot group to get ******.
nice given we spend half our lives away from family.
more important to look after your HR intern

megan 14th May 2024 01:37


turning the screws in terms and conditions of frontline workers
Don't forget they do that to the customers as well, ghost flight customers getting satisfaction trying to get their hands on a refund, you need to cough $99 up to Vanessa for the privilege.


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