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t_cas 11th May 2022 01:51


Originally Posted by woke2022 (Post 11228311)
enough arguing about CARs / if your too cheap to pay $100 for a first aid certificate to be eligible for a job you really want then please dont join an airline or you'll be the guy taking the toilet rolls of the plane

Moving on. Anyone heard much? are they doing it in stages after a group have done online aptitude inviting them for interviews or waiting until all applicants complete online testing?

I expect you may have supported the qualification of “working from heights” requirements as well?

SixDemonBag 11th May 2022 02:38

Toilet rolls are a valuable commodity

regitaekilthgiwt 11th May 2022 11:04


Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist (Post 11225337)
Every ferry / freight flight I’ve seen / done is heavy crewed.

That’s funny. You don’t work for Qf then.

kjvmw 26th May 2022 07:27

Yes a lot of people

Ladloy 26th May 2022 07:38


Originally Posted by woke2022 (Post 11235619)
any update on the recruitment front? Are people progressing from testing to interviews etc?

I know about 5 turboprop drivers who have completed interviews and sim rides but nothing past that.

TimmyTee 26th May 2022 08:12

Anecdotally, appears to be more progress for pilots from some airlines, and less from others overall

Ladloy 26th May 2022 09:08


Originally Posted by TimmyTee (Post 11235708)
Anecdotally, appears to be more progress for pilots from some airlines, and less from others overall

Heard of anyone getting to the hold file stage?

aussieflyboy 26th May 2022 09:25


Originally Posted by Ladloy (Post 11235733)
Heard of anyone getting to the hold file stage?

Is this the same hold file that has people from 2018 on it?

Sparrows. 27th May 2022 00:08


Originally Posted by aussieflyboy (Post 11235745)
Is this the same hold file that has people from 2018 on it?

Yes.

And that hold file is forecast to be empty by October. Apparently

130 SO’s to be recruited over the next 12 months.

Ladloy 27th May 2022 00:16


Originally Posted by Sparrows. (Post 11236189)
Yes.

And that hold file is forecast to be empty by October. Apparently

130 SO’s to be recruited over the next 12 months.

I heard almost 300 required or is it 130 externally?

TimmyTee 27th May 2022 02:30

Will the 321s coming to short haul create or reduce recruitment opportunities at QF?

dr dre 27th May 2022 03:37


Originally Posted by TimmyTee (Post 11236232)
Will the 321s coming to short haul create or reduce recruitment opportunities at QF?

Create opportunities, as long as the variations are voted up and the aircraft comes to mainline of course

stillcallozhome 27th May 2022 07:29


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11236248)
Create opportunities, as long as the variations are voted up and the aircraft comes to mainline of course

Don’t see how it’s creating jobs as it’s a replacement for the 737. There’s only growth if the 737s are staying - which they’re not.

dr dre 27th May 2022 07:44


Originally Posted by stillcallozhome (Post 11236312)
Don’t see how it’s creating jobs as it’s a replacement for the 737. There’s only growth if the 737s are staying - which they’re not.

You’ll need more pilots for a new aircraft type to cover instructors, those absent during training etc.

The A321 will cover existing domestic plus potentially more short haul Asian routes, which would be growth above the current numbers. While the 737 remains you’ll still be training pilots on to that.

stillcallozhome 27th May 2022 08:35


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11236318)
You’ll need more pilots for a new aircraft type to cover instructors, those absent during training etc.

The A321 will cover existing domestic plus potentially more short haul Asian routes, which would be growth above the current numbers. While the 737 remains you’ll still be training pilots on to that.

Sounds like an overlap to me. Doesn’t seem very cost effective to hire crews to cover instructors being trained and conversions for existing pilots.

I agree with 321 doing Asian routes which COULD replace 330. Won’t need as many crew either because it’s not on LH award.

DA said it’s a fleet replacement. This seems a 1 for 1 swap at this stage. The only reason it’s the 321 first is so they can squeeze for the variation I reckon. Rest will be 320s in a like for like swap.

Just my 2c.

Flyonthewall2020 5th Jun 2022 01:30


Originally Posted by BravoSierraLima (Post 11184894)
I don't think the current version of the cadet scheme is anywhere near the same as the old version, which included industry placement. The current one seems like a fast food franchise (operations conducted by a third party but with visits from head shed to keep an eye on things, some mentoring and to validate the logo on the front door). Two graduates were in a recent QLink intake of Dash 8 FOs.


I can confirm this as a current student, it is a bit of a sausage factory and they vaguely tell you that this is not a cadetship and is entirely run by FTA with Qantas reps coming in every couple of months. The academy does an intake of about 10-20 students every 7 weeks, already upto 18 groups so far with ~100+ graduates in about 2 years. They have plans to ramp up to 250 students a year.

The course is approx. 56 weeks with the only break being a couple of days over Christmas, no other public holidays throughout the year are observed. GS being 8-5 Mon-Fri and flying phases are 6 days a week, very fatiguing/students do burn out.

At the end of it you get CPL, MEIR, ATPL theory and MCC (approx. 150-200 hours total time). You get a spot in the Qantas group future pilot program and then they send you on your way with a big graduation ceremony (noting you still graduate if you have failed ATPL subjects and still need to pass them, it's on you to do this in your own time afterwards).

So far graduates seem to either look for GA jobs up north or get their instructors rating and come back and instruct at the academy, many are on the first job hunt. I've heard of about 2 or 3 graduates so far getting into Qlink. Will be interesting how we fair post covid, whether we've been suckered in with the branding or we'll be given a leg up for Qlink jobs.

SHVC 5th Jun 2022 09:52


Originally Posted by Flyonthewall2020 (Post 11240921)
The course is approx. 56 weeks with the only break being a couple of days over Christmas, no other public holidays throughout the year are observed. GS being 8-5 Mon-Fri and flying phases are 6 days a week, very fatiguing/students do burn out.

They’re just preparing them for when they get on the line.

FO NappyBum 5th Jun 2022 20:05


Originally Posted by Flyonthewall2020 (Post 11240921)
I can confirm this as a current student, it is a bit of a sausage factory and they vaguely tell you that this is not a cadetship and is entirely run by FTA with Qantas reps coming in every couple of months. The academy does an intake of about 10-20 students every 7 weeks, already upto 18 groups so far with ~100+ graduates in about 2 years. They have plans to ramp up to 250 students a year.

The course is approx. 56 weeks with the only break being a couple of days over Christmas, no other public holidays throughout the year are observed. GS being 8-5 Mon-Fri and flying phases are 6 days a week, very fatiguing/students do burn out.

At the end of it you get CPL, MEIR, ATPL theory and MCC (approx. 150-200 hours total time). You get a spot in the Qantas group future pilot program and then they send you on your way with a big graduation ceremony (noting you still graduate if you have failed ATPL subjects and still need to pass them, it's on you to do this in your own time afterwards).

So far graduates seem to either look for GA jobs up north or get their instructors rating and come back and instruct at the academy, many are on the first job hunt. I've heard of about 2 or 3 graduates so far getting into Qlink. Will be interesting how we fair post covid, whether we've been suckered in with the branding or we'll be given a leg up for Qlink jobs.


How much are you kids paying for this? #HECS

Flyonthewall2020 6th Jun 2022 00:26


Originally Posted by FO NappyBum (Post 11241354)
How much are you kids paying for this? #HECS

About $130k (+ 20% hecs fee) + accommodation ($20k) so around $175k total 🥲

WillieTheWimp 6th Jun 2022 01:42

Can you really put a price on a set of aviators and an IG story? #pilotlife


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