Originally Posted by morno
(Post 11132956)
What a completely boring person you are. Who wants to go to the US? I do! Along with the rest of the world.
Would you rather we just lock ourselves indoors forever? And why reference data that is completely irrelevant to the upcoming situation? |
Pub; The problem would be that being fully vaccinated does not fully protect you against getting Covid
, you should have a look at the daily cases from places like Singapore that are a long way in front of us regarding vaccination rates 82% V 62% (of total population) We know being fully vaxxed reduces probability of getting virus(data?) & probability of getting very sick(significantly) , but that's all it does So if USA is getting 100k per day , maybe that equates to 10k per day in California , so perhaps it isn't such a great time to kick up your heels & say "yeah hah, lets party in Cali" . Because if you become Covid + , you won't be getting on an airplane to come home anytime soon. & if you get sick your $10K holiday could become a $100K venture Have you ever thought that maybe there is a reason that Japan, China , Vietnam , Korea , Malaysia , NZ , Taiwan etc etc remain closed to foreign visitors ? I don't think so many will be voting that UK/USA are the developed countries that handled Covid best But if you think it is all "Good as Gold" you go for it Tiger ; I really just hope you take any minors along for the ride Jump in the waters just balmy |
Originally Posted by Telfer86
(Post 11133016)
Pub; The problem would be that being fully vaccinated does not fully protect you against getting Covid
, you should have a look at the daily cases from places like Singapore that are a long way in front of us regarding vaccination rates 82% V 62% (of total population) We know being fully vaxxed reduces probability of getting virus(data?) & probability of getting very sick(significantly) , but that's all it does So if USA is getting 100k per day , maybe that equates to 10k per day in California , so perhaps it isn't such a great time to kick up your heels & say "yeah hah, lets party in Cali" . Because if you become Covid + , you won't be getting on an airplane to come home anytime soon. & if you get sick your $10K holiday could become a $100K venture Have you ever thought that maybe there is a reason that Japan, China , Vietnam , Korea , Malaysia , NZ , Taiwan etc etc remain closed to foreign visitors ? I don't think so many will be voting that UK/USA are the developed countries that handled Covid best But if you think it is all "Good as Gold" you go for it Tiger ; I really just hope you take any minors along for the ride Jump in the waters just balmy 9000 road deaths occurred in the first quarter of 2021 in the USA Some balance people. |
It’d be nice if this thread didn’t turn into yet another Covid thread but given we’ve started to go down that road, it’s important to put Singapore into context.
Although 84% of Singapore residents have been fully vaccinated, most with doses from Pfizer (PFE.N)/BioNTech or Moderna (MRNA.O), the vaccines may not protect some of the most vulnerable. Fully vaccinated people made up about 30% of deaths over the last month, most older than 60 with underlying medical woes, in line with studies showing that vaccines offer less protection to the old and very ill. Data from this reuters article. |
Originally Posted by Keg
(Post 11133267)
It’d be nice if this thread didn’t turn into yet another Covid thread but given we’ve started to go down that road, it’s important to put Singapore into context.
The thing that struck me is that the overwhelming majority of the deaths are still those who were unvaccinated or partially vaccinated. Data from this reuters article. |
Originally Posted by Telfer86
(Post 11133016)
Pub; The problem would be that being fully vaccinated does not fully protect you against getting Covid
, you should have a look at the daily cases from places like Singapore that are a long way in front of us regarding vaccination rates 82% V 62% (of total population) We know being fully vaxxed reduces probability of getting virus(data?) & probability of getting very sick(significantly) , but that's all it does So if USA is getting 100k per day , maybe that equates to 10k per day in California , so perhaps it isn't such a great time to kick up your heels & say "yeah hah, lets party in Cali" . Because if you become Covid + , you won't be getting on an airplane to come home anytime soon. & if you get sick your $10K holiday could become a $100K venture Have you ever thought that maybe there is a reason that Japan, China , Vietnam , Korea , Malaysia , NZ , Taiwan etc etc remain closed to foreign visitors ? I don't think so many will be voting that UK/USA are the developed countries that handled Covid best But if you think it is all "Good as Gold" you go for it Tiger ; I really just hope you take any minors along for the ride Jump in the waters just balmy You really are a negative Nancy mate. You do come across in all your posts as someone who’s never happy. I hope you find something good in your life to make you smile! Life is way too short to be that negative about everything. Good luck! |
Originally Posted by Telfer86
(Post 11132900)
Why does everyone call me a pessimist ?
If you think you will be going OS in 2022 with the control freaks we have as State Premiers , well I think that is very very optimistic , almost delusional Does anyone seriously believe there will be regular scheduled services to USA/UK in 2023 ? Even more grim in developing Asian countries Does anyone think the State Premiers will sign off on these kind of numbers? I was hoping for 50% domestic, 25 % international two years in , - no chance of making those numbers now, that is three years in (at best) So it is your insistent negative projections in spite of significant positive progress that causes people to call you a pessimist (or worse). |
Originally Posted by Beer Baron
(Post 11133474)
So it is your insistent negative projections in spite of significant positive progress that causes people to call you a pessimist (or worse).
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Back on to topic.
HOBO said on a teams call to SO’s yesterday, they’ve already had meetings to start the process, but recruitment slated to start in March. |
Originally Posted by Sparrows.
(Post 11133726)
Back on to topic.
HOBO said on a teams call to SO’s yesterday, they’ve already had meetings to start the process, but recruitment slated to start in March. March 2022 is the date when courses are planning to begin for new hires, presumably those already on the hold file. Good news for all in that position. |
Originally Posted by IsDon01
(Post 11133829)
To clarify the above from what I just heard on the webinar that just ended.
March 2022 is the date when courses are planning to begin for new hires, presumably those already on the hold file. Good news for all in that position. |
I thought I heard the figure of 100, thrown around.
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Originally Posted by SixDemonBag
(Post 11134188)
I thought I heard the figure of 100, thrown around.
Ill put this out there though. Two years ago we were recruiting at a very high rate. Then covid happened and everything stopped. Since then we’ve had a reduction in numbers on the 747 and announced that two of the A380s of the 12 we originally had won’t be returning. To balance that we ran a VR process and by the movement in the seniority numbers of those of us left I reckon about 260 took the package and left. Recent announcements indicate the A380 will be returning way earlier than anyone predicted and we’ll be taking delivery of the next three 787s as soon as we can get our hands on them. I’m on the 787 and we’ve been told to expect to be very busy in the short and medium term. I’ve been involved in numerous reductions in numbers processes personally and the only constant in every one is that Qantas has massively overshot the amount of people they have moved. My very strong suspicion is that they have done the same thing with the recent VR process. Looking to the short and medium term future is the arrival of three 787s and the A350 is still firmly on the table. In fact I’ve heard from various sources that the point to point flying is even more important post covid given the complexities around borders we’ve all experienced through covid. Flying point to point is vastly more desirable now than it has ever been. I fully expect that this recruitment announcement will just be the beginning and I expect we will continue to recruit for the foreseeable future in similar numbers we were pre-covid.Tempering that somewhat will be training capacity. The moronic decision to close the Sydney training centre and send simulators to Melbourne and Brisbane will slow things down. Yet another penny wise pound foolish demonstration, as if any more were needed. Of course any recruitment in Qantas will also have immediate effect on the recruitment of Qlink, Network and JQ as people move to mainline from within the group. |
Originally Posted by On Guard
(Post 11133980)
Did they mention numbers?
After a boom there’s a bust, and after a bust, there’s a boom. Be ready. |
Originally Posted by mohikan
(Post 11130195)
There will not be a need for pilot recruiting in QF for a very very long time. And with commands now running at 18+ years you will be a co-pilot for the majority of your career now.
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Do the LH crew on the three year secondments around the group need to return before hiring starts, or is that number another gap to fill?
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Originally Posted by Callsign Please
(Post 11134404)
Do the LH crew on the three year secondments around the group need to return before hiring starts, or is that number another gap to fill?
For instance there were pilots on LWOP for all of the 2010-2020 timeframe in various parts of the world, that didn’t stop external recruiting restarting in 2016. |
Originally Posted by IsDon01
(Post 11134223)
To be honest, I don’t think anyone knows.
Ill put this out there though. Two years ago we were recruiting at a very high rate. Then covid happened and everything stopped. Since then we’ve had a reduction in numbers on the 747 and announced that two of the A380s of the 12 we originally had won’t be returning. To balance that we ran a VR process and by the movement in the seniority numbers of those of us left I reckon about 260 took the package and left. Recent announcements indicate the A380 will be returning way earlier than anyone predicted and we’ll be taking delivery of the next three 787s as soon as we can get our hands on them. I’m on the 787 and we’ve been told to expect to be very busy in the short and medium term. I’ve been involved in numerous reductions in numbers processes personally and the only constant in every one is that Qantas has massively overshot the amount of people they have moved. My very strong suspicion is that they have done the same thing with the recent VR process. Looking to the short and medium term future is the arrival of three 787s and the A350 is still firmly on the table. In fact I’ve heard from various sources that the point to point flying is even more important post covid given the complexities around borders we’ve all experienced through covid. Flying point to point is vastly more desirable now than it has ever been. I fully expect that this recruitment announcement will just be the beginning and I expect we will continue to recruit for the foreseeable future in similar numbers we were pre-covid.Tempering that somewhat will be training capacity. The moronic decision to close the Sydney training centre and send simulators to Melbourne and Brisbane will slow things down. Yet another penny wise pound foolish demonstration, as if any more were needed. Of course any recruitment in Qantas will also have immediate effect on the recruitment of Qlink, Network and JQ as people move to mainline from within the group. |
Originally Posted by roundsounds
(Post 11134756)
Not only has the Sydney training centre been closed, all Sydney simulator instructors have been made redundant.
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Originally Posted by roundsounds
(Post 11134756)
Not only has the Sydney training centre been closed, all Sydney simulator instructors have been made redundant.
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