Are any more courses going ahead? Is it likely the hold file will be dissolved?

New SO courses to continue for the rest of the year according to management today.

Confirmed today that SO courses will continue. However the disclaimer was added - "the situation is constantly evolving".

Great news that they plan to continue with training for the foreseeable future. I guess when things bounce back they're going to bounce back in a big way (hopefully!)

Cabin Crew Application
 

Hi all

I’m not sure if I am on the correct thread however it sounds like most of you have a good understanding of the recruitment process. I was hoping someone can please clarify why applicants are required to wait 12 months until they can apply again once they’ve been placed on hold due to no cabin crew positions available at that current time?
I understand completely you are required to wait 12 months once deemed unsuccessful if you do not proceed past the assessment day.
My application was eligible to be placed on hold until May this year however was cut short due to the current circumstances. It is definitely heartbreaking to hear after a long 1 year wait from the time of my application however I just wanted to send my thoughts out to those who currently work as cabin crew.

Welcome to the wonderful world of airline HR selection.

Yep starting to realised how wonderful it is hahaha

Firstly, does anyone recall / have a copy of the graph AIPA released a few years back showing the amount of Qantas pilots reaching 65 over the next 10 years?

I remember the number being approx 700 to year 2030. That being what 30% of the pilot body?

With the recruitment door all but closed for the immediate future, is there a possibility of a shortage of pilots for the international operation come say 2023 onwards?

With many I’d assume throwing in the towel prior to 65 in the current climate, re training ect
Project sunrise isn’t dead yet, it may become favourable in the years ahead with the new world as it be. 400 additional pilots were needed for this operation.

I’m a glass half full person but on paper it’s not all doom and gloom.

thoughts?

Take care all

675 to the end of 2030. It’s only 156 until the end of 2023.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f3350e10c.jpeg

The average retirement age is 63. You could argue retirements would be slightly more than the above graph as it shows age of 65.

I also think lots will stay longer now that their super has gone down the toilet.

Lots will also hit 65 with wanting to move over to domestic 737. Not gonna happen anytime soon.

ASX only lost 18 months worth of gains.

And there are issues for those in defined benefit super schemes that may not make it worthwhile hanging around while stood down or on MGH.

Thank you for the graph.

some valid points raised. A little to play out I’m sure. I’m confident the powers at be have it all sorted ;)

stay positive folks.

Not all doom and gloom. We'll be lucky if we don't lose 400 plus pilots as a result of this. I can't see any recruitment for a very long time.

We will all know by the end of June...3 months notice will coincide with the end of Jobkeeper. I don’t hold your same pessimism though, but some tough decisions to come.

Hopefully LWOP is offered to junior international crew and not a redundancy. All the new hires will be needed in a few yrs as travel picks up.

Very interesting isn't it.

At what point can the junior international crew be back flying on the 330/787, whilst the senior 380/747 crew remain stood down? Does that still classify as "no work available" ?

Isn't that what placing everyone on stand down is effectively doing? You are free to source alternative employment and it's not really costing the company much to keep you on the books.

Pretty much. Although still accumulating AL,SL

LWOP would be the obvious decision to remove the above entitlements if the company cant recoup from the government JK scheme after September.

I’m hopeful that keeping a surplus current in the short term will provide the flexibility that the company has continued to express in the event demand ramps up quicker than expected.