Wheels Down
Forget the 319's, stick with same capacity all round for flexibility. Keep it simple and they'll be the only one who has resisted temptation to diversify from the low cost model. This is what will bring VB undone over time.
SN

Come on guys, I know there was a meeting today. Let us know what's happening.
SN

Even the pilot group dont know yet, ease up it'll come out in the wash soon enough!


go_soaring! instead

Yes, BUT the CAA in Singapore don't like FAA licences. Pilots with FAA certificates have been employed before in Singapore, however you will have an uphill run converting it compared to someone with a JAA licence.

Co have offered FO's $108,301K, not sure if they have increased offer to captains. The Co is still banging on about the flexi roster. Anyone know what they are after here?
SN

Hmmmm......................what are the Company "after here" by wanting a flexi roster?

Well I’ll break it down for you:

1. If we need you to work a day off – you’ll do it.
2. If we need you to extend a tour of duty – you’ll do it.
3. If we need to recall you from leave – you’ll do it.
4. If we need to change your existing roster so you can’t get to your child’s 6th birthday party, the dinner organised for your wedding anniversary, your best friend’s wedding etc,. Etc,. – you’ll do it (AND with a smile for this one!)

Shall I continue or do you get the idea?:ugh:

With a rigid 5/2/5/4 pattern it may not be possible to cover the flying program without employing additional pilots and flying everybody a bit less ie you won't do, and get paid for max hours. Company has the costs of additional staff.

If pilots could volunteer to work on their off days and get paid extra for it everybody wins. Those who want more money get it, those who prefer the time off can have that and the company save on additional staff. :)

Maybe the F/O's lose out as there are 10% less commands required with Captains working on their days off.

"If pilots could volunteer to work on their off days and get paid extra for it everybody wins. Those who want more money get it, those who prefer the time off can have that and the company save on additional staff"

That's what every company project its crewing numbers on BTW.

As stated, the losers are the F/O's WRT this.

Now going to charge you to queue at the airport.
 

I'd like to bypass the check in queue if I could. When travelling low cost, fewer counters are open for less time resulting in a wait while the whole flight checks in together en masse, instead of spread out over a longer time with more counters.

Be a savvy traveler and SHOP AROUND. You may find a full service airline is actually cheaper for what you want to do, especially if they have a special deal on the route or you have a family and need lots of luggage and meals.

If you're on your own, flexible with timing, only carry hand luggage and pack your own lunch the savings can be considerable. Travel search engines are your friend here.

And just as it has done at the other airlines who charge for bags, cabin crew cop it in the neck. I don't have a problem with getting charged for bags, I have a problem with people attempting to bring on bags that should for weight and size be checked bags. Test them all before they pass check in. Don't make the cabin crew into the bad guys for refusing obviously oversize and weight bags being brought on board. It's a joke these days, the limits are there for a reason.

Carry-on bags
 

"Test them all before they pass check in."

Ah yes, reminds me of one of the best industrial campaigns I was ever a victim of.
The TAA (yes, it was a long time ago - maybe Adelaide about 1982?) cabin crew were having some kind of ding-dong with management, so they decided to "enforce safety regulations":E
"No, of course we're not taking industrial action, that would be illegal. No, no, we're just making sure our high safety standards are maintained" :E:E
But, every single carry-on bag was being weighed and measured against the frame thingy. "sorry, sir, too big / heavy, we'll just pop it in the hold for you" "sorry madam, only one piece of carry-on plus your hand-bag, which ones would you like us to put down in the hold"
Absolute chaos at the gate, flight delayed massively, etc.
IIRC, TAA gave in within a week

Good Gosh

Making a point, within safety/security requirements so non-contestable, and winning.

Should have been a history lesson for AFAP '89 - sadly not.

Cheers
galdian

That dispute had nothing to do with safety/security and the AFAP never said it did. So what "history lesson" are you talking about galdian?

3 Holer

Apologies, saw an obvious and went fishing, shouldn't have but...such is life.

Wasn't aware I said anything about safety.

The history lesson - I suppose tactics, and winners, and losers.

Now.....back to tales of Tiger!

cheers!

.................short term memory loss perhaps?

I do agree.......back to the Tales.;)

Like the tale about someone from Tiger Sing coming down to Oz to look at setting up their International AOC..........
b.

Heard they are bleeding crew to the sand pit (about 20). Anyone confirm?
SN

Heard that they are losing up to half of their SIN Captains.
Down in Oz rumour has it that CASA has a magnifying glass out and that folks at the top don't understand why crew aren't attracted to work for :bored:them.

The same will happen to Oz once the 3 year bonuses are paid out :ok:

Also heard that an ex Tiger employee is now with CASA and part of the team holding the magnifying glass :D

Any more on the EBA?

Don't tell me they are running out of blue shirters to employ :confused: Does this mean they will have to revert to hiring mere mortals :rolleyes:

Last I heard, As long as you don't need a walking frame ( most of the time )

You're in !!

Heard from good intel that company may not be expanding in Aus as fast this year as previously indicated?

Tiger is struggling in more than one way at the moment. Don't beleive the rumours that they are making money

hongkongfooey,
Seems they won't be employing anyone for a while, if ever.
Heard that CASA have stopped them in their tracks and won't let them get anymore aircraft in Oz for the foreseeable future. Apparently engineering is an issue amongst others. The same thing has happened in Singapore.
If CASA let them start the Avalon base in November, as advertised, Tiger will have to take an existing aircraft from Adelaide and one from Tullamarine to make it happen.
What happens to the crews in Adelaide and Melbourne? Are they going to be forced to move because surely Tiger won't pay for crew to be sitting around.
As we all know there is always a bigger picture and we are unlikely to be allowed to see it.
However, even the blind, deaf and dumb must be wondering what the hell is going on in Tiger Central.
What was once an attractive option appears to have focused on becoming another Australian statistic.
:(

Tiger really knows how to win friends and influence people.

Splendour in the Grass fans pitch tents at airport as Tiger Airways schedule change leaves them stranded | Courier Mail

Many of the passengers have reportedly turned Brisbane Airport into a makeshift campsite, erecting tents they used at the popular music festival.

Tiger Airways could not be reached for comment overnight

Scorcher
So where did you hear this news and why dont the media have the scoop?
SN

SN,
Info from Tiger people. Apparently its widely known in the ranks.
As for the media, God only knows how that dark force works.

SQ starting to sit up?
 

I might be reading too much into it, but Tiger just appointed a few days ago 2 directors who have posts in SQ and the new CP in Singapore is rumoured to be SQ as well.

http://www.tigerairways.com/news/20100802a.pdf

I'd be sitting up too if I owned 49% of the gig.

Saw a Strategic 320 operating where the usual is Tiger the other night - any idea why?

Bit hard for anyone to answer if they don't know where?

Any suckers, oops, I mean pilots taken the " command in SIN for 2 years deal " ?
Just remember to ask what happens if there are no command positions in Oz when your 2 years are up.
Maybe Tiger being the generous employer that they are will just absorb the extra skippers back into Oz :hmm:

understand it's no longer on table as they filled slots from indonesia

Oh yeh you'd have to be a real sucker to take a significant pay-rise from being an F/O here to a skipper in Singapore, paying much less tax, enjoying your days off anywhere on the Tiger network for cheap (beaches in Phuket, markets in Bangkok, Vietnam, China, India) getting some International flying experience and breaking the monotony of flying Sydney and Gold Coast runs day in, day out...:rolleyes:

Pilot's who have taken commands in Adelaide have not had problems getting back to Melbourne when space has become available and have always had precedence over someone new being employed.

Might not be everyone's idea of a good experience but i don't know why you would have to be a "Sucker" to take up the offer! :ugh:

Does the fact that so many have looked at Tiger and not bothered or bothered and have left answer your question?

Perhaps 'suckers' is too strong a term but may I humbly suggest Tiger need to treat their staff a whole lot better if they are to attract and retain them. There will always be a few people who are attracted by false sparkles but in the upcoming/eventuating crisis of too many aircraft & not enough experienced pilots, Tiger will have to ground flights unless it looks after staff waaaaay better.

Unfortunately, the labor government recently changed the tax laws. This means (for most people who go on temporary/short term) if you pay less tax overseas, you will then have the pay additional tax to Australia. Therefore you will be paying the same tax as in Australia.

See this document http://http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/.../NAT/ATO/00001

that link doesn't work....