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Why hasn't anything come out about the high speed RTO Tiger suffered on the weekend? Seems another engine tried to cook itself.
That can't look too good-two toasted engines in a few days.:ooh: |
Any money in the budget to laminate your cheklists yet??
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RTO didn't make the news but the OTP did..
Tiger Airways more likely late than never | The Australian Steve Creedy From: The Australian December 23, 2010 12:00AM The low-cost carrier Tiger Airways plumbed new depths in its record on lateness last month.[/B] The airline's ability to get customers to and from their destination on time has been worsening since April, and headed below 60 per cent last month. Government figures show it managed to get just 59.2 per cent of its planes away on time, while 59.6 per cent arrived punctually. This was well below the major domestic carriers' average of 81.9 per cent for departures and 80.2 per cent for arrivals. A spokeswoman said the airline's on-time performance suffered last month from "a higher than usual number of unexpected factors including weather and engineering". "We focus on completion (of journeys) and sometimes, as a result, our on-time performance suffers," she said. "As we grow, the economies of scale will assist us in this area." On-time performance leader Qantas managed 83.6 per cent of its domestic flights away on time and landed punctually 84.4 per cent of the time. However, Tiger's cancellation rate of 0.4 per cent was a third that of the flying kangaroo's 1.2 per cent. Blackspots for on-time departures included the Sunshine Coast-Melbourne route (47.4 per cent) and Sydney-Hamilton Island (58.3 per cent). Ayers Rock-Sydney had the highest percentage of on-time departures. Routes where travellers were most likely to find their flights cancelled included Perth-Broome (3.6 per cent), Melbourne-Sydney (3.4 per cent) and Sydney-Melbourne (2.9 per cent). |
June: "As far as I am concerned, on-time performance is going to be a big area that we will be focusing on," Mr Rix said"
June: 76% July: 72.4 Aug: 72.6% Sep: 65.4% Oct: 65.7% Nov: :mad: Where's Shelley when you need her..:E |
Look on the numbers bright side, it is likely they recorded 99.8% passenger complaints !!
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You get what you pay for. Pay **** - Get ****.
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Bangkok Post : Thai Tiger stuck in holding pattern
Also late getting off the ground in Thailand...... Transport Ministry permanent secretary Supoj Suplom told reporters on Tuesday that he referred the plan to set up Thai Tiger Airways (TTA) back to the national carrier because of its vagueness. Bangkok Post : Tiger's back-door entry attempts In early 2007, Tiger Airways sought a shortcut into the protected market essentially by exploiting the air traffic rights granted to the family-owned Thai budget airline. |
As mentioned by the spokeswoman "ecomomies of scale" is a problem area. How many aircraft were they to have by now? How many aircraft do they now have?
Genuine question, because IMHO it could give an indication of where Tiger (in Australia) is ultimately heading! :sad: |
I hear CASA are starting to take a much closer look at Tiger too.
Low-cost is great as long as too many corners aren't cut. Perhaps Tiger are flirting with this corner-cutting? Also their treatment of staff apparently isn't as 'cordial' as other airlines, and in Australia that's a pretty low datum to compare with! And why does there seem to be so much shuffling/departing amongst management? |
Quote "I hear CASA are starting to take a much closer look at Tiger too."
So what. It's not like they will do anything or take any real action. CASA tends to leave their enforcement action to either weak targets like PPL holders, or companies that have already had an accident, or as a result of media interest!! Don't agree, prove me wrong. |
Unfortunately SAO, you are quite correct.
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user pays alright
ALR, CASA are an industry facilitator. They only act on individuals not on companies.
FWA are also in this basket. If Tiger and J* can do what they do what is the point in having any legislation surrounding industrial relations at all? I suppose it looks good on paper in a touchy feely kind of way and attracts more people so the housing shortage continues. The overall objective of either side of the government is to assist big business any way they can and feed the welfare system. If you happen to be in the middle (wage earner and tax payer) you're going to feel some pain. |
Quote "I hear CASA are starting to take a much closer look at Tiger too."
Well that may be the case but there are higher profile carriers around featuring in the news due to incidents or accidents" thanTiger. If they open another base I reckon its look out VB here we come. They will need to keep their costs well under control though, I hear VB have plans in that area too. SN |
June: "As far as I am concerned, on-time performance is going to be a big area that we will be focusing on," Mr Rix said" With only 10 servicing Australia, every delay/hiccup/breakdown/or any of the other myriads of problems that occur on a daily basis will cause a flow on impact across the network. It was no different with DJ in the early days and no different with Latestar either. Once/if the fleet hits around 20 aircraft things may improve, until then - I doubt it. Don't forget you also have to allow for ridiculously tight turnaround times and predominately second rate infrastructure when stand-off bays and the 'arse end of airports' are often used, minimal engineer staffed ports, minimal spares, rosters and schedules that have nil fat built into them, outsourced ramp handling (contractors will leave your aircraft waiting if it is delayed while they turnaround the oppositions aircraft which is running on schedule) etc etc etc... |
"Look out Vb here we come"? You're dreaming.
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its look out VB here we come. My prediction is that Virgin Australia will get close with Singapore Airlines in the future. Perhaps the asian partner..missing piece of the JB puzzle perhaps.. |
I heard from a good source that someone in Tiger Oz called
"donut head" was setting up the Thai operation and blew it. Sounds to me a donut-eating latte-guzzling PhD appointed by Davis. No wonder it failed. |
CW again..
After practically destroying Tiger Oz and costing the company millions, then stuffing up with Tiger Korea, what does he expect! :hmm:
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I read this in the Straits Times at least once a week
ST Forum HOME > ST FORUM > STORY Dec 30, 2010 Christmas spoilt by Tiger flight delay, disappointing crew I HAD a miserable Christmas after my Tiger Airways flight back from Shenzhen last Saturday was delayed by hours. What disappointed me more was the way the crew handled the situation. For five hours, we were kept on the plane without even a complimentary cup of drinking water. When I alerted the crew on the need to serve at least drinking water to the kids and the elderly, I was told that they had no provision for this and the only way passengers could get drinking water was by paying $3. Kids were crying and people were cursing, and the lights were buzzing for the flight attendants. However, they were nowhere around to help. I tried to call the Tiger Airways hotline numbers while inside the plane but the calls would not go through. I went to the airline's Facebook page and found many sharing their misery but the airline was hardly responding to any of them. Kum Kah Yong ============== Was also told that Tiger Airways asked Changi Airport to take their company name off the directory board of offices in Terminal 1, because too many irate pax were making their way there! The airport didn't budge though. |
Kum, I have not one ounce of pity for you. At the price you've likely paid you're lucky you got there at all. (and should be grateful)
You need to tuck in your bottom lip and quieten down. Low Cost. |
Well said, MH.
Having been on the receiving end of said call bells, unfortunately I am unable to offer you a pillow or a blanket for your $19 to get to OOL. Happy New Year to those who pay adequately for the service they receive. |
Is the strike going ahead??
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Haha b. Funny bloke...
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My prediction is that Virgin Australia will get close with Singapore Airlines in the future. |
I'll have to come up with another prediction..:}
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While a buy-in may not be likely this would not preclude an alliance between Virgin Blue (Virgin ???) and Singapore Airlines. This is, after all, what JB's virtual airline network is predicated on. That is alliances, not buy-ins.
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My wild idea was given the existing relationship with Virgin Altlantic and the associated naming problems, that JB might have struck a deal in Singapore whilst over there for the Formula 1. And that deal seeing Tiger and VB in an alliance to go head to head with QF/JQ. Pretty way out ..i know..
I'll come up with another one once I've had a coffee. |
Biton, I think your comment is quite perceptive. DJ is all about alliances because it doesn't have the cash to purchase an equity stake in anything. Cash reserves showing on DJ's financials are just that, reserves, and not a 'war chest' to fund acquisitions.
Due to the combination of Tiger eating away at them from below, Jetstar boxing them in from the sides and the Qantas mainline citiflyer business product squeezing them from above, DJ is in a very tight cash position with no scope to improve their margins. Despite their small fleet, Tiger's 'cost plus' product has effectively filled the gap left by DJ when BG had a brain aneurism and announced their emergence as a 'New World Carrier'?? If Tiger can continue to build mass their simple business model will continue to take low budget consumer business away from DJ. The Oracle |
That is of course if people keep accepting the worse pay and conditions in the western world.
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"That is of course if people keep accepting the worse pay and conditions in the western world."
And your evidence being......? |
And your evidence being? You really need to get out more.
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Simple
1.Qantas.
2.Virgin. 3. Jetstar. X. V Australia or Tiger. Y. GA. Z. Mining Charter. That should start up a war. |
" You really need to get out more."
Yes, indeed I do, for many reasons. However that doesn’t explain your comment regarding the “worse pay and conditions in the western world.” Is this grammatically incorrect and factually inaccurate statement the result of research or are you merely following the bleating heard on this one? |
oicur12.again
Your base rate is amongst the lowest in the industry, Your annual leave entitlement is amongst the lowest in the industry, (actually you get payed less too as no "flight pay") Your sick leave entitlements are amongst the lowest in the industry, You pay for your own uniform (that' a laugh), You pay for your own parking, You pay for your own ASIC, Your "new hires" are employed under a crappy AFAP award and have no guarantee of 2 consecutive rostered days off, Need I continue with the bleating? You can continue to live in denial - I however can choose to improve my grammar. And for the record, it's "HERD" :ok: |
Hoof,
These are not my conditions of employment; I do not work for an Australian company. But jumping to conclusions is all part of the fun, isn’t it? I assume the “industry” you refer to is the wider global airline industry, the one existing in the “western world”? That being the case, I suggest you do some research before jumping in with such misinformation. There are airlines in Canada and the US, for example, that pay A320/737 pilots considerably less than Tiger, in some cases little more than half and with only 5 days annual leave AND no retirement fund. Tiger pilots would still be way ahead of these carriers even if their self-funded uniforms were hand made in Italy. “You pay for your own parking”. I reckon YOU should get out a bit more my friend. |
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Simple -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1.Qantas. 2.Virgin. 3. Jetstar. X. V Australia or Tiger. Y. GA. Z. Mining Charter. Someone please tell me which is "better"? |
Sometimes I wonder which is "better"...flying a 737 or 320 for $180K a year, doing 850 plus hours a year, overnights of 5-8 nights a month Althought the charter sounds pretty good if it is actually as cruisy as that! :ok: |
Tiger Oz
Any of you guys actually WORK for Tiget OZ?
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You'll find that most that work for Tiger, won't actually humour this site and post here..
go_soaring! instead |
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