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PPRuNeUser0161 23rd Mar 2010 22:18

Well it looks as if things are settling down at Tiger. A new CEO presumably to take the show to the next level. It will be interesting to see if they can stay profitable as they continue to expand, now that they are listed the shareholders will expect performance.

I do however think they need a little work in the customer service area especially the connecting flights. They would be losing a lot of customers who can't be assured of the connections or later flights when the first is delayed, this is the place for them to concentrate on as the fleet grows. The other thing is can the liesure market take them through a downturn? They need better depatch reliability otherwise they are focusing on too small a sector of the market. Lots to do I think.
SN

Okie 23rd Mar 2010 23:02

Ringer2008
Two big questions, are you A320 qualified and do you have the right to work in Australia?

mohikan 24th Mar 2010 07:32

Boned !
 
Just goes to show that if you no nothing about aviation, but are a CEO, things will catch up with you........

"Tiger Airways names new local boss
ANDREW HEASLEY
March 24, 2010 - 2:18PM
In a surprise development, Tiger Airways has announced a new boss to head its Australian operations to replace its local managing director, Shelley Roberts, who helped set up the discount airline and has steered its rapid growth.

''Shelley has established Tiger Airways Australia as a major national airline, and led it from infancy to profitability,'' Tiger Airways Holdings Group chief executive Tony Davis has announced.

''She intends to take a well deserved break. We would like to thank her and wish her continued success in her future endeavours,'' he said.

Replacing Ms Roberts is Crawford Rix, the managing director of no-frills UK airline ''bmibaby''.

Tiger Airways said the changing of the guard was amicable.

''I’m proud of what we’ve achieved as a company and I’m working with the company to set up the next person in the role as best as I possibly can,'' Ms Roberts said.

Unlike Virgin Blue, which signalled the departure of its long-time chief executive Brett Godfrey months before his departure, Tiger announced the changes simultaneously.

Ms Roberts' handover to Mr Rix is expected to take months.

Spokeswoman Vanessa Regan said it was ''obviously better announce a resignation at the same time as you’ve got a new appointment to go with it, which is why it wasn’t announced previously.''

Tiger Airways chief executive Tony Davis lauded the Australian operations to investors when the company released its latest financial results through the Singapore stock exchange last month.

''Tiger Airways Australia has been profitable for two successive quarters, proving that our Australian business has exited the start-up phase at a faster pace compared to the Singapore business, and is well positioned for growth going forward.''

Mr Davis announced the airline group’s 2009 third-quarter profit of $S14.1 million ($11 million) on February 25.

Mr Rix had brought bmibaby ''to the top position in the UK in terms of reliability and punctuality among low cost carriers,'' Mr Davis said.

These are two areas where Tiger in Australia has struggled.

Tiger came last among the major and regional domestic airlines for punctuality last month, according to latest figures on airline operational performance from the Bureau of Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Economics.

In February, Tiger managed only 78.2 per cent of departures on time, and 77.6 per cent of flights arriving on time, significantly under the industry averages of 85.3 and 83.2 per cent respectively.

It also had the equal second-highest rate of cancellations (with Virgin Blue) at 1.1 per cent of flights, above the industry average of 0.9 per cent.

Mr Rix, who is in the UK, was ''relocating to Melbourne with his family over the coming months''.

Mr Davis lauds his airline's ''relentless focus on cost containment''.

Indeed, Tiger Airways Australia’s corporate nerve centre operates from what looks like old army cadet barracks on the grounds of Melbourne Airport, with furniture and office equipment that looks like it was bought from a garage sale.

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Sunstar320 24th Mar 2010 08:48

Boned? She turned the company around from 50mill loss to currently profitable...But id say there probably is more to this story as there always seems to be with tiger.

From what I heard she struggled with the operational side of the airline but was very good with the commercial side of things (making the company money). Explains the crap service though :hmm:

galdian 24th Mar 2010 10:43

Reckon Sunstar320 has fair comment dodgy, feel you're being severe.

"she's crap" ...what, as opposed to the smooth styling, gentle encouragement, inclusive management style et al of Mr Geoff "...anyone who gets between me and my yearly miniscule bonus for flogging my guts out for this mob is dead meat..." Dixon??

IMHO when you have a Chief Pilot like KB (no secret from previous posts I have a lot of time for Ken) you seriously listen to his advice...and act contrary to it at your own peril.
As an example - Tiger startup roster was guarenteed 5 on - 2 off - 5 on - 4 off pattern, predictible and VERY popular ie troops happy!
SR tinkled with it - against the thoughts/advice of many/all - not sure if any positive gains but seems negative fallout.

Rule # 1252: "If it aint broke, don't fix it"....rings a bell.

cheers
galdian

MrSheffield 25th Mar 2010 02:01

Anyone know if the current managing director resigned or was she asked to leave. If so, for what reasons?

B772 25th Mar 2010 05:14

Rumour has it the current MD was swanning around in the Qantas Club prior to a QF departure a number of months ago. I wonder why she was flying QF and to where ?.

Sunstar320 25th Mar 2010 06:49


Rumour has it the current MD was swanning around in the Qantas Club prior to a QF departure a number of months ago. I wonder why she was flying QF and to where ?.
Probaly Brisbane Airport. Could be a new port? Who knows!

DeltaT 25th Mar 2010 07:25

Its a new Managing Director, not CEO

Metro man 25th Mar 2010 09:14


Rumour has it the current MD was swanning around in the Qantas Club prior to a QF departure a number of months ago. I wonder why she was flying QF and to where ?.
Possibly going to a place where Tiger don't yet fly, or fly to but the times weren't suitable.

Possibly having a look at what the competition are up to.;)

Sunstar320 26th Mar 2010 08:59

Tiger Australia is returning to Darwin from Melbourne with a daily frequency, mabye Adelaide too?. More interested to see if Tiger Singapore does though. It was a route that had its ups and downs from Singapore and JQ seems to have alot of capacity on the route relying on connections.

I guess they could base a further 1/2 A320's at Melbourne now considering that one heads off to Darwin and the other Perth overnight when the new schedules start.

teresa green 26th Mar 2010 11:37

Please tell me why the company allow that cr%p on TV to go ahead. I had never seen it before but had to endure it the other night as I was outvoted. How does your ground staff seen arguing with a bunch of bogans do anything for you, or for the airline????? its cr%p! bad publicity and humilating for your staff. I cannot imagine any other airline allowing it. Crazy.

Trevor the lover 27th Mar 2010 07:20

BYE BYE BANT - p!ss off and good riddance. Now maybe you'll have some time to work off some of that ample lard arse you've been dragging around for so long.

Tiptoe Turkey and Sunstar 320 - seriously, if World War 2 had a PPRUNE, you guys would have congratulated Hitler for giving it a go, thanked him for the competition, and wished him best of luck for his next endeavours.

B772 27th Mar 2010 10:08

I hear Wendy Hazelton will operate the first Tiger service into BNE on Sun 28 March.

PPRuNeUser0161 28th Mar 2010 13:19

Teresa Green
"Bogans" ha ha ha, I reckon your spot there old son. No wonder trouble stirs up with pax like that. Some people just should not be allowed to fly!

Good luck to Tiggrrr I say, best for the future with the new MD. I have a feeling they'll be around for longer than some think.
SN

ringer2008 29th Mar 2010 13:25

okie

no im not rated on a320. im rated on 747-400 and 737. and yes i am australian. cheers

cunninglinguist 30th Mar 2010 11:05


Ringer2008
Two big questions, are you A320 qualified and do you have the right to work in Australia
And the most important question of all, did you used to work for Ansett :} If the answer to this little gem is yes, nothing else seems to matter.

Okie 31st Mar 2010 07:18

Tiger Australia FO pay, 100K-110K gross.

PPRuNeUser0161 31st Mar 2010 10:41

Checked out the latest offer by the company, 175K for the Capt and 100.5K for the FO. Out of this you pay LOL cover, uniform, medical, asic, car parking and you don't get paid if taking up to six days URTI. Super to be capped for calculation purposes at 141K max. No other bonuses to be paid. Works out approx $160,369.00 for the chief and $89,810.00 for his pupil. No increases offered for four years either. So you will earn less in four years than you do now. I'm not sure what the current pay is but I believe this must surely be a backward step. All for the price of an endo.

Where will it end, there are quite a few GA jobs around that earn a lot more than they are offering the FO and some with very good salary packaging and security of employment. Jets must be good thats all I can say!
SN

PPRuNeUser0161 31st Mar 2010 13:59

GB
So do all fo's who start before the next eba get the 20k after three years service or is it only those who have been there since the start?

So I guess nobody wants to step into the rep's role for fear of being targeted?
SN

Tankengine 31st Mar 2010 14:04

"Super capped for calculation purposes":eek:

Call the ATO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:ok:

PPRuNeUser0161 31st Mar 2010 21:37

Yeah it does sound a bit dodgy, in the end your selling out your retirement to help fund your employer. It seems this relentless drive to lower T & C's for the flight crew is still on. If you check out what the RFDS pay in terms of package (QLD & Western ops), project the trend forward 4 years, deduct CPI from what they have offered the captains and the difference is not that much. Especially when you take into account the rfds pilot still gets to fly real aircraft and has great employment security. Its just an example of how some GA wages are increasing and the airlines are gradually eating at what they pay their pilots. This trend needs to be arrested otherwise the industry is ruined.
SN

Muff Hunter 31st Mar 2010 21:38

Surely the AFAP is helping you guys get a better deal??????????? :ugh:

NOT :mad::mad::mad::mad:

George Bush 1st Apr 2010 06:44

Soup Nazi - to answer your question, yes.

Sunstar320 7th Apr 2010 08:34

Some nice passenger on a Tiger flight yesterday night left a Bomb threat in the seat-pocket, was a hoax of course, flight only delayed couple of hrs in Bne.

Wow, really does show how the media are sure over Tiger and their antics now.

PPRuNeUser0161 13th Apr 2010 01:33

Anyone heard what happened at the EBA meeting scheduled for last Saturday?
SN

tiger_insider 13th Apr 2010 01:41

There was no meeting. It was postponed by Tiger management.

Darwinism 19th Apr 2010 03:45

Avalon it is for the third base then:

Tiger Airways picks Avalon for third base | The Australian

PPRuNeUser0161 23rd Apr 2010 00:51

So have management advised when the next eba meeting will be?
SN

PPRuNeUser0161 27th Apr 2010 11:35

Anything on the EBA yet?
SN

DeltaT 3rd May 2010 09:23

Bump
Anyone know whats happening with the EBA, soon to be finished?

Sunstar320 13th May 2010 11:03

Full year results have been released for April 2009-March 2010. In Singapore dollars.

-28.3m profit posted after tax,bouncing back after a 9m loss in the first quarter. Company lost 21.7m on hedging. He noted that they would have posted a $50m profit if it wasn't for hedging losses. Forecast for next year is in upwards of 80m.
-7 more A320's due before early next year, 2 to Avalon, 5 more to Singapore/Australia/New Airline. 2 older aircraft in Singapore will most likely end service.

See here

3 Holer 13th May 2010 22:09

Good to hear, cheap fares will be around for a while yet!:ok:

PPRuNeUser0161 14th May 2010 03:06

This must be starting to bite the QF group and VB by now, what happens when the economy tightens up?
SN

boocs 14th May 2010 04:13

any update on the eba results?

PPRuNeUser0161 23rd May 2010 11:29

Bump. Anything on the EBA?
SN

tiptoeturkey 25th May 2010 12:24

The negotiations are being handled by the AFAP.

For those who have no idea about the importance of history, they are scr##ed.

As indicated by the company, who couldn't care less.

Why should they. They know the history of the AFAP.

PPRuNeUser0161 25th May 2010 12:29

As I see it the pilots have a good chance, the company has a heap of aircraft coming and they will need pilots!
SN

Muff Hunter 25th May 2010 22:32

With the AFAP involved you should be all excited..

The deal will be one that everyone will love.............

EXCEPT THE PILOTS :mad::mad::mad::mad:

illusion 26th May 2010 01:18

Muff Hunter,

The AFAP is only as good as it's membership. The industrial officer organised two pilot meetings in Adelaide recently to find out what the pilots wanted. On both occasions, after flying from Melbourne and paying for a venue NOT ONE pilot showed up.

If they get s##t they deserve it.


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