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Old 16th Apr 2023, 21:07
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Originally Posted by logansi
Many days their MEL-MCY services are sold out. Hopefully, this gives them a bit of confidence to maybe go after some other routes served by JQ.

In the current market, selling 186 seats a day on routes JQ serve 3-4 times a day should be achievable.

MCY-Albury doing surprisingly well I hear. They are offering as a really cheap, quick option to visit the snow - something you can't do easily from SE QLD.
They operate MEL - MCY once a week and itís not sold out in April or May, probably was last week with holidays otherwise itís $79, this weeks return flight is sold out as the Mexicans return south but itís hardly breaking records
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Old 16th Apr 2023, 21:56
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Originally Posted by markis10
They operate MEL - MCY once a week and itís not sold out in April or May, probably was last week with holidays otherwise itís $79, this weeks return flight is sold out as the Mexicans return south but itís hardly breaking records
The Bonz does three MCY-AVV returns a week as well as the once a week MCY-MEL return.
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Old 17th Apr 2023, 05:03
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
The Bonz does three MCY-AVV returns a week as well as the once a week MCY-MEL return.
None of which were sold out when I checked outbound, think one inbound was due holidays but the same comment still stands. Loads during holidays are the cream, not an indication of an average week.
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Old 17th Apr 2023, 06:04
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I am off to WTB from MEL on Wednesday for the ride, will report back on loads, the seat maps aren't looking great right now, probably about 40 occupied on the outbound, haven't checked the inbound, but some people are probably too tight to pay for seat assignment and will just get a random assignment at check in.
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Old 17th Apr 2023, 07:22
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Out of the 27 routes it looks like about half are good. Likely underestimated the snow traffic with Albury, expect the other players to jump on that next year. Twice a week could be scaled up to a near daily service.

Perhaps some of those not so good routes would do better with a change in flight timings, QLD Leisure traffic 8pm-12am during the week is dead, not sure why they are flying Sunny to Proserpine, Cairns at 8pm mid week. Transcontinental is a goldmine at the moment, can't shy away from that forever.





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Old 19th Apr 2023, 11:10
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Bonza are following Jetstars pricesÖso much for them saying $49 per hour. They are pricing their airfares within $30 to $50 of what JQ are pricing from BNE to North QLD.
Case in point. CNS to BNE next Friday 28 April. On Monday the AB fair to MCY was $99. JQ at almost the save time into BNE was $129. 24 hrs later the AB fair to MCY was $139 and JQ to BNE $179. Today the AB fair to MCY $199 and JQ and VA were $234 to BNE.
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Old 19th Apr 2023, 16:40
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If I was running Bonza then I'd be querying the Terminal Navigation charges. According to the Airservices Flight Costing Results calculator the Terminal Navigation charges for Sunshine Coast are more than double the charges of Brisbane and Gold Coast.
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Old 19th Apr 2023, 16:58
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Originally Posted by Zinfandel
Bonza are following Jetstars pricesÖso much for them saying $49 per hour. They are pricing their airfares within $30 to $50 of what JQ are pricing from BNE to North QLD.
Case in point. CNS to BNE next Friday 28 April. On Monday the AB fair to MCY was $99. JQ at almost the save time into BNE was $129. 24 hrs later the AB fair to MCY was $139 and JQ to BNE $179. Today the AB fair to MCY $199 and JQ and VA were $234 to BNE.
This shows how AB, JQ and VA are filling their flights
Like any airline get in early for the cheap seats
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Old 19th Apr 2023, 20:55
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Went up to Toowoomba yesterday from MEL and there were only about 40 pax, the fight then formed the inaugural flight from WTB to TSV, not sure how many were on that one however the return to Toowoomba was packed judging by the amount of people getting off, the return to MEL yesterday afternoon was at about 70% capacity.
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Old 19th Apr 2023, 22:19
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Originally Posted by missy
If I was running Bonza then I'd be querying the Terminal Navigation charges. According to the Airservices Flight Costing Results calculator the Terminal Navigation charges for Sunshine Coast are more than double the charges of Brisbane and Gold Coast.
Likely signed a contract with reduced charges etc. New startups generally go where the incentives and subsidies are, Tiger did the same, took million dollar grants from both Victoria and South Australia. I doubt they are paying those higher fees, they just wouldnít be there. AirAsia at Avalon was fee free for the first couple of years for its 10 year deal.

The issue will be later on when contracts start being re negotiated, fees/charges start climbing. Councils are notorious for this behaviour, they will see Bonza as a good way to push revenue and double charges overnight. Very common in Europe, and Ryanair generally plays hard ball and closes bases then re opens later when they come back to the table.

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Old 20th Apr 2023, 06:08
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
Likely signed a contract with reduced charges etc. New startups generally go where the incentives and subsidies are, Tiger did the same, took million dollar grants from both Victoria and South Australia. I doubt they are paying those higher fees, they just wouldnít be there. AirAsia at Avalon was fee free for the first couple of years for its 10 year deal.

The issue will be later on when contracts start being re negotiated, fees/charges start climbing. Councils are notorious for this behaviour, they will see Bonza as a good way to push revenue and double charges overnight. Very common in Europe, and Ryanair generally plays hard ball and closes bases then re opens later when they come back to the table.
Hi, perhaps my post was vague, I was referring to the AsA Air Traffic Control charges to use the airspace - Terminal Navigation charges, these are different to the Enroute charges, and any charges the airport (publicly listed, privately or Council owned) may charge. Unsure whether AsA offer "honeymoon rates".
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Old 25th Apr 2023, 22:10
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Local news in Toowoomba are reporting Bonza flew 1000 pax out of WTB in the first week of ops (8 flights).
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Old 25th Apr 2023, 23:45
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Originally Posted by missy
Hi, perhaps my post was vague, I was referring to the AsA Air Traffic Control charges to use the airspace - Terminal Navigation charges, these are different to the Enroute charges, and any charges the airport (publicly listed, privately or Council owned) may charge. Unsure whether AsA offer "honeymoon rates".
wellcamp in class G, TSV done by RAAF and the others mostly TIBA/TRA these days so can't imagine they'd be charging much for no service ?
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Old 26th Apr 2023, 00:56
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Originally Posted by markis10
Local news in Toowoomba are reporting Bonza flew 1000 pax out of WTB in the first week of ops (8 flights).
about 60% load factor if that true. How many inbound on the 8 flights???
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Old 26th Apr 2023, 00:59
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Originally Posted by markis10
Local news in Toowoomba are reporting Bonza flew 1000 pax out of WTB in the first week of ops (8 flights).
I would expect (MEL) to go daily (or more) pretty quickly.

TSV/CNS not so much. But there could be other destinations they could add Eg Adelaide.
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Old 26th Apr 2023, 04:12
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Originally Posted by missy
If I was running Bonza then I'd be querying the Terminal Navigation charges. According to the Airservices Flight Costing Results calculator the Terminal Navigation charges for Sunshine Coast are more than double the charges of Brisbane and Gold Coast.
If theyíre charging that much they can bloody well leave the tower open a bit later than they currently doÖÖ

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Old 2nd May 2023, 06:42
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Went on the inaugural today from Melbourne to Tamworth and return, most of the pax that went up came back on the return with a few exceptions. Hopefully patronage will improve for this route but I doubt it, except during country music festival time, probably needs Jetstar to replace Qantaslink from Sydney on this route with it's connections from other ports.
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Old 2nd May 2023, 08:17
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Saw them take a decent load of MEL to MCY last week- probably about 60%.. Twas more than I expected.
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Old 2nd May 2023, 09:36
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Originally Posted by Captn Rex Havack
Saw them take a decent load of MEL to MCY last week- probably about 60%.. Twas more than I expected.
interesting. I wonder how many freebies? Same MEL to WTB
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Old 2nd May 2023, 10:36
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The flights are empty, why is anyone surprised? We have now entered the per capita recession. I don't think the RBA are finished yet either.

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