Bonza has its AOC
I have a sneaking suspicion that the pain to come, not just for Bonza but all airlines will be much worse than a lot seem to be expecting. The post covid music is about to stop, make sure you have a seat when it does.
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Geez what a miserable few posts. Air travel is here to stay, recessions come and go and, if there is a recession and if it is sufficiently deep, the leanest will survive.
Australia is in good shape financially, the minerals-based prosperity continues, migration is increasing and people want/need to travel.
No airline, regardless of its size, is immune to collapse particularly if bloated and inefficient (eg: Ansett)
However, Qantas will survive as it has shareholder support. Bonza's loads are healthy (not 'empty') and even if they were, the airline appears flexible enough, with minimal comparative overheads to redeploy to more viable routes.
Virgin, Alliance, Network etc all have the covid-learnt ability to downsize appropriately when needed.
Have watched PPrune since Jetstar, Virgin and Alliance started, would love a buck for each time some miserable Prune expert guaranteed their demise.
Australia is in good shape financially, the minerals-based prosperity continues, migration is increasing and people want/need to travel.
No airline, regardless of its size, is immune to collapse particularly if bloated and inefficient (eg: Ansett)
However, Qantas will survive as it has shareholder support. Bonza's loads are healthy (not 'empty') and even if they were, the airline appears flexible enough, with minimal comparative overheads to redeploy to more viable routes.
Virgin, Alliance, Network etc all have the covid-learnt ability to downsize appropriately when needed.
Have watched PPrune since Jetstar, Virgin and Alliance started, would love a buck for each time some miserable Prune expert guaranteed their demise.
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Great to see Bonza getting its aircraft utilization up. Becoming more common to have all four aircraft operating on any one day. And six sectors per aircraft per day being frequent.
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Tamworth, Wellcamp, Coffs, Proserpine flights not doing that flash among others. You cannot make money from 4 aircraft even if the whole lot are operating full. I see you cannot book online past October. They obviously have cash to burn if they want to put up with some of those failures for another 5 months.
Tamworth, Wellcamp, Coffs, Proserpine flights not doing that flash among others. You cannot make money from 4 aircraft even if the whole lot are operating full. I see you cannot book online past October. They obviously have cash to burn if they want to put up with some of those failures for another 5 months.
777 partners have very questionable aircraft on order, that 66 aircraft order was never firmed up, and the remaining firm order appears gone when they stopped taking aircraft late last year which left Boeing running around trying to find homes for a dozen aircraft.
Its Canadian arm seems to operate on the model, pay last months bills with next months revenue. That will likely be troublesome when the American summer comes to a close, so perhaps some aircraft opportunities from over the pacific when that falls apart in the not too far future.
Its Canadian arm seems to operate on the model, pay last months bills with next months revenue. That will likely be troublesome when the American summer comes to a close, so perhaps some aircraft opportunities from over the pacific when that falls apart in the not too far future.
Not ideal. They are having some issues at the moment with engineering. One aircraft down over the last few days, well that’s a quarter of the schedule gone. The struggle is the next flight isn’t for multiple days.
Would be fair to say that Seattle has cut off 777 partners. Many lessors got a fright with the repossessions in Canada, they might have some issues trying to source aircraft going forward.
Would be fair to say that Seattle has cut off 777 partners. Many lessors got a fright with the repossessions in Canada, they might have some issues trying to source aircraft going forward.
They are starting to get the bad publicity, article is behind a paywall https://www.thechronicle.com.au/subs...s&mode=premium
Deeply sorry’: Passengers call out new airline over cancellations
A new airline branded as “Australia’s new, and only independent, low cost airline servicing regional domestic routes” has come under fire after it cancelled a flight with minimal notice provided.
Toowoomba
Mess with the Toowoomba travelling public and a drive to Brisbane is an option. It seems that Bonza has no backup and poor communication with customers. One family looks like waiting 21 days for a refund as they were travelling for their son’s sport and $1500 out of pocket on accommodation and car rental.
This country needs to toughen up the rules around compensation in regards to delays or cancellations.
You purchase a flight. They cancel. You then spend multiple thousands getting to the destination because the original carrier could not in a reasonable time frame. A flight 3/4 days later doesn’t cut it. That original carrier needs to pay the entire cost involved. Some countries do it a bit easier, they just get a lump sum.
You purchase a flight. They cancel. You then spend multiple thousands getting to the destination because the original carrier could not in a reasonable time frame. A flight 3/4 days later doesn’t cut it. That original carrier needs to pay the entire cost involved. Some countries do it a bit easier, they just get a lump sum.
When you live....
This country needs to toughen up the rules around compensation in regards to delays or cancellations.
You purchase a flight. They cancel. You then spend multiple thousands getting to the destination because the original carrier could not in a reasonable time frame. A flight 3/4 days later doesn’t cut it. That original carrier needs to pay the entire cost involved. Some countries do it a bit easier, they just get a lump sum.
You purchase a flight. They cancel. You then spend multiple thousands getting to the destination because the original carrier could not in a reasonable time frame. A flight 3/4 days later doesn’t cut it. That original carrier needs to pay the entire cost involved. Some countries do it a bit easier, they just get a lump sum.
This country needs to toughen up the rules around compensation in regards to delays or cancellations.
You purchase a flight. They cancel. You then spend multiple thousands getting to the destination because the original carrier could not in a reasonable time frame. A flight 3/4 days later doesn’t cut it. That original carrier needs to pay the entire cost involved. Some countries do it a bit easier, they just get a lump sum.
You purchase a flight. They cancel. You then spend multiple thousands getting to the destination because the original carrier could not in a reasonable time frame. A flight 3/4 days later doesn’t cut it. That original carrier needs to pay the entire cost involved. Some countries do it a bit easier, they just get a lump sum.
people forget that airlines only sell one product and that is time. The travel game changer that aviation brought to the table was time otherwise ships, trains cars and horses would be ok. Frequency equals time too. Bonza has no Plan B for disrupts unlike most others. They could have ACMI’d at least one aircraft as backup until they got settled down. The fell for the playbook that says new ships are ultra- reliable which does not take into account things like bird strikes (last Saturday at MCY), wx, or ramp damage or oh dear.
if you’re not reliable with good recoveries then no matter how cheap the fare is people walk
I think the local management here did have the right intentions, they did had a spare aircraft and did state that on the record. However the investor then crushed that plan and sent it to Canada last month to deal with those repossession problems.
Issue seems to be, relations with lessors have deteriorated. A image did surface of a Bonza jet with interior kitted out, in Poland the other day, for another operator.
Tiger destroyed its image in a matter of months with similar fleet planning issues. Except back then they didn’t even offer compensation, executive told the customers to buy travel insurance and stiff. Word spreads pretty fast in some these smaller regional areas so they might need to be careful, pull back the schedule and get that spare aircraft at the ready. They do seem proactive so I would say it’s on the agenda.
Issue seems to be, relations with lessors have deteriorated. A image did surface of a Bonza jet with interior kitted out, in Poland the other day, for another operator.
Tiger destroyed its image in a matter of months with similar fleet planning issues. Except back then they didn’t even offer compensation, executive told the customers to buy travel insurance and stiff. Word spreads pretty fast in some these smaller regional areas so they might need to be careful, pull back the schedule and get that spare aircraft at the ready. They do seem proactive so I would say it’s on the agenda.
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I think the local management here did have the right intentions, they did had a spare aircraft and did state that on the record. However the investor then crushed that plan and sent it to Canada last month to deal with those repossession problems.
Issue seems to be, relations with lessors have deteriorated. A image did surface of a Bonza jet with interior kitted out, in Poland the other day, for another operator.
Tiger destroyed its image in a matter of months with similar fleet planning issues. Except back then they didn’t even offer compensation, executive told the customers to buy travel insurance and stiff. Word spreads pretty fast in some these smaller regional areas so they might need to be careful, pull back the schedule and get that spare aircraft at the ready. They do seem proactive so I would say it’s on the agenda.
Issue seems to be, relations with lessors have deteriorated. A image did surface of a Bonza jet with interior kitted out, in Poland the other day, for another operator.
Tiger destroyed its image in a matter of months with similar fleet planning issues. Except back then they didn’t even offer compensation, executive told the customers to buy travel insurance and stiff. Word spreads pretty fast in some these smaller regional areas so they might need to be careful, pull back the schedule and get that spare aircraft at the ready. They do seem proactive so I would say it’s on the agenda.
Very simple so as I said what is Plan B? Maybe operate a three aircraft schedule with a reserve. Leave people stranded without options of immediate compensation then other alternatives are available and faith and trust lost = business failure