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Since dr dre didn’t respond to the original question, my response would be to use old school methods if VNAV was not available. You can approximate the descent point based on the 3-in-1 method or the metres button. eg From FL340 to sea level, 3x34=102NM, or FL340=10363m (103.63NM).
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I had a (possible) theory 8 years ago and I still stand by it. He maybe(just maybe) wanted to land on Christmas Island(which he frequently practiced on a simulator) and he went around to be so far from the radar and air traffic (which correlates with pings) and then failed because he was under pressure in cabin from other pilot/passengers or just lost the nav or what not, even the drift data supports this (the parts that washed ashore on Madagascar). Of course I don't think it IS what happened but just a possibility that's not being discussed because people are so convinced that he performed suicide just because of that. It's crazy how dark thoughts prevail in people's minds that they can't think of anything else.
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I had a (possible) theory 8 years ago and I still stand by it. He maybe(just maybe) wanted to land on Christmas Island(which he frequently practiced on a simulator) and he went around to be so far from the radar and air traffic (which correlates with pings) and then failed because he was under pressure in cabin from other pilot/passengers or just lost the nav or what not, even the drift data supports this (the parts that washed ashore on Madagascar). Of course I don't think it IS what happened but just a possibility that's not being discussed because people are so convinced that he performed suicide just because of that. It's crazy how dark thoughts prevail in people's minds that they can't think of anything else.
I’m interested to know where you think the VNAV Top Of Descent point is for Penang if:
VNAV is available,
Cruise at FL340/294CAS,
Descent speed 268CAS,
Nil wind,
No STAR or approach loaded,
Distance from IGARI to Penang is 222NM.
Why are you interested? So that you can add more information to your "How I can pretend to sound like an airline pilot" folder? I am going to keep my information about how to calculate a ToD in my SAPB folder. The information you have provided to calculate the ToD is just stupid and has some very unrealistic assumptions. I will leave you to discuss with other pilots within your "airline" when next you are in your "crewroom" what the unrealistic assumptions are.
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How can you possibly know that he is correct?
Sometimes people just need to take a step back and look at the big picture. There’s very little hard facts that can be established with this incident. Any theories on hypoxia or smoke inhalation or massive avionics failure are speculation. There’s no way they can be proven correct. Even if/when the data recorders may be recovered it still probably won’t be conclusive enough to end speculation.
Maybe this will be unsolved forever.
Sometimes people just need to take a step back and look at the big picture. There’s very little hard facts that can be established with this incident. Any theories on hypoxia or smoke inhalation or massive avionics failure are speculation. There’s no way they can be proven correct. Even if/when the data recorders may be recovered it still probably won’t be conclusive enough to end speculation.
Maybe this will be unsolved forever.
It’s OK to say you couldn’t calculate it, it’s not a competition.
Which assumption do you think is unrealistic?
Which assumption do you think is unrealistic?
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Lookleft, thanks for your insightful answer.
Given that the distance from IGARI to Penang is 222 NM, there is no requirement for MH370 to commence a descent immediately after the turn back.
It hasn’t reached the VNAV Top of Descent point from FL340 / 294CAS, for an ECON desc speed 268CAS in nil wind and without a Penang STAR or approach loaded.
Given that the distance from IGARI to Penang is 222 NM, there is no requirement for MH370 to commence a descent immediately after the turn back.
It hasn’t reached the VNAV Top of Descent point from FL340 / 294CAS, for an ECON desc speed 268CAS in nil wind and without a Penang STAR or approach loaded.
Given that the distance from IGARI to Penang is 222 NM, there is no requirement for MH370 to commence a descent immediately after the turn back.
It hasn’t reached the VNAV Top of Descent point from FL340 / 294CAS, for an ECON desc speed 268CAS in nil wind and without a Penang STAR or approach loaded.
I'm curious to see where you intend going with this. At a heavy weight of about 210 T, the descent point from FL340 would be about 130 NM from Penang.
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The true story of MH370 is available to anyone but likely to be found by very few.
Even listing the primary elements of it would be frowned on by this and any other public forum.
The media lost interest as soon as they saw what it was. Their focus went straight to the accident theories that flourish to this day.
What really happened is no secret, and certainly no mystery. A cursory internet search of the pilot will reveal a man with a very interesting life beyond his professional one. Deeper investigation leads to more of the story, but it is far from simple. Like any investigation, there are leads that go in different directions, many of them wrong.
The internet is a marvelous tool for the amateur sleuth, but this is like a maze in a foreign country. They do things different here, but in the end the same human nature that drives anyone to crisis drives us all. Once you see what really happened it all comes together and makes as much sense as anything like this can.
This is a story worth knowing. And worth telling. A guaranteed Pulitzer Prize winner if it ever finds its way to the writer who can do it justice. Once you know what happened here you will never think about pilot suicide and murder.in the same way again.
Even listing the primary elements of it would be frowned on by this and any other public forum.
The media lost interest as soon as they saw what it was. Their focus went straight to the accident theories that flourish to this day.
What really happened is no secret, and certainly no mystery. A cursory internet search of the pilot will reveal a man with a very interesting life beyond his professional one. Deeper investigation leads to more of the story, but it is far from simple. Like any investigation, there are leads that go in different directions, many of them wrong.
The internet is a marvelous tool for the amateur sleuth, but this is like a maze in a foreign country. They do things different here, but in the end the same human nature that drives anyone to crisis drives us all. Once you see what really happened it all comes together and makes as much sense as anything like this can.
This is a story worth knowing. And worth telling. A guaranteed Pulitzer Prize winner if it ever finds its way to the writer who can do it justice. Once you know what happened here you will never think about pilot suicide and murder.in the same way again.
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I’ll bite: Please just tell us what happened, ferry pilot. I for one will vote 1 ferry pilot for a Pulitzer Prize.
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Is it a padded cell? If yes, you’re in the correct room.
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I have looked carefully and found none. The "real story" just doesn't stand, it's based on assumption that the pilot succeeded to do what he wanted to do which has been a false premise from the beginning. Drift data doesn't support it, also from psychological POV it doesn't fit any known human behaviour. But investigators have decided that it has to be suicide and based all further investigation upon that assumption.
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