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Perhaps but clearly whatever, the vaccine simply does not work. This should be patently obvious to all but the dumbest of observers. As proof we have a superspreader event in Newcastle where the only attendees permitted were the fully jabbed up. We have a 90% double dose of vaxed up punters but the borders are still all but closed. On top of all that, it is mandatory for Qantas, cops, medical workers, teachers and all in some states who work with the general public.
Now, 90% is clearly an outstanding effort. Better than any other roll out of pricks in history but clearly and obviously it does not work. Any fool can now see that.
Who wants their money back? It is either time to go back into nationwide lockdown or simply forget the whole sorry saga.
Booster shots anyone?
No doubt Dr. DRE and 43 inches will argue but your postulations are wearing pretty thin :-)
Now, 90% is clearly an outstanding effort. Better than any other roll out of pricks in history but clearly and obviously it does not work. Any fool can now see that.
Who wants their money back? It is either time to go back into nationwide lockdown or simply forget the whole sorry saga.
Booster shots anyone?
No doubt Dr. DRE and 43 inches will argue but your postulations are wearing pretty thin :-)
You do understand that the vaccine only reduces the severity of Covid? It doesn't stop you from getting it, or infecting other people.
No, it doesn't look like you do understand. The vaccine vastly reduces, but does not entirely eliminate, the likelihood of severe outcomes and death. It doesn't provide blanket protection against infection nor prevent every case, not even the most ardent vaccine promoters are claiming that it does. What is achieved is a reduction in the chances of being infected, and hence passing it on to others, and that significant reduction in chances of severe negative outcomes. It's not a binary thing where once 90% or 95% are vaccinated, there is no more covid, or that there can be no negative outcomes in spite of vaccinations.
So, seatbelts don't work., right?
Great product! We bin sold a pup. It clearly doesn't work very well at all, the evidence is everywhere for all with eyes to see. I say it is ineffective then. I made a mistake, it works but it doesn't.
As for your seatbelts, baaa, a sheep's comparison. Can't you come up with something better than that? By your reckoning, we can put a seat belt on but we still can't drive. Awesome!
Ok, so it does work but it doesn't stop you getting it or transmitting it. 90% have taken it. Question then: Why are there still restrictions, major restrictions, on travel, employment, venues, borders. Its a flop, it is ineffective, we need boosters and there is no end in sight.
Great product! We bin sold a pup. It clearly doesn't work very well at all, the evidence is everywhere for all with eyes to see. I say it is ineffective then. I made a mistake, it works but it doesn't.
As for your seatbelts, baaa, a sheep's comparison. Can't you come up with something better than that? By your reckoning, we can put a seat belt on but we still can't drive. Awesome!
Great product! We bin sold a pup. It clearly doesn't work very well at all, the evidence is everywhere for all with eyes to see. I say it is ineffective then. I made a mistake, it works but it doesn't.
As for your seatbelts, baaa, a sheep's comparison. Can't you come up with something better than that? By your reckoning, we can put a seat belt on but we still can't drive. Awesome!
Hey, I'd be all for an opt-out where unvaccinated don't have restrications- as LONG as they agree not to be treated in a public hostpital of they get covid.
Wiz - that attitude - is inhuman, immoral, and just plain wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ncz8xIyzA&t=21s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ncz8xIyzA&t=21s
Singapore, a far better functioning nation than Ted Cruz’s USA, has stopped paying public health care bills for those who’ve chosen to not be vaccinated.
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To those saying “you do know that the vaccine is designed to reduce people’s symptoms, NOT to stop infection” or some load of sh&t to that effect.
They started out as “proper vaccines”, you know, ones that are useful for PREVENTING THE CONTRACTION AND SPREAD of a disease (aka A VACCINE), then “they” saw that wasn’t happening so “they” thought, “oh ****, that’s ok, we‘ll just change the definition of a “vaccine” then……
Keep moving those goalposts and here we are today, where the WHO has changed definitions of both “vaccine” and “pandemic” to suit their ham fisted and ridiculous approach to this whole saga…… BECAUSE THEY DONT WORK.
As for “Wizofoz”, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone better or more accurately deserving for the label “oztranought”. The smug, nose in the air and holier than though attitude on the bloke is an absolute delight to watch. They’re the type that are an absolute pleasure to fly with, talk only about themselves and “the old days”, while bitching and whining about the younger generation that don’t listen to them and their pointless stories about how good they are and how **** everybody else is… Looking out the window and trying to climb out it tends to be distracting and leads these legends of their own lunchboxes to think that you’re a distracted or substandard operator when all that’s going on is another crew member thinking about how to avoid this prat at every turn when we get to the hotel.
Wiz and his mates are perfect examples of how human decency, lack of respect and perverted authoritarianism have become the dominant strain of the most insidious disease in Australia now, which largely means, more than anything that they stick their large, unwelcome and arrogant noses into other people’s lives and demand that everybody else “do what we say because we know better than you damn it and you’d better listen to me!”
FFS blokes, get your noses out of someone else’s business, if you’ve had your jab then piss off and leave everybody else alone, ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS…..
Yeah yeah, “bUt The hoSPiTalS” etc etc…. Whatever makes you feel better about being a nosey old **** that can’t keep it in his pants and just stay out of other people’s choices, like the rest of you rabid “pro vaxxers”. It’s you people that are perpetuating this garbage and ruining our bloody country with your divisive rhetoric and abusive stances that involve the vilification of people who wish to simply make different choices than you and take responsibility for their own lives and health. (Side note, I don’t see ANY difference in the Covid situation since the jabs were brought in, but anyway)
The weird obsession with interfering in people’s medical lives and all of a sudden demanding to interfere in everybody’s private lives is the real problem here. Justifying the persecution and abuse of people based on their medical choices is extreme and one day, people like you lot will be looked upon as the bullies and absolute abhorrent beings that you are. No one has the right to force anything medical on someone AND THAT INCLUDES threatening them, their employment, their movement or their place in society. The number of people you’re trying to “save the world” against (those who get sick and run around spreading it for fun and trying to kill the population with the dreaded lurgy) are so small that you yourself look like a loony tin foil hat wearer by trying to say that they’re everywhere and that as a result, the whole population needs locking up and being jabbed against their will.
Prune brings out the best in aviation, as evidenced by the “Wizofoz” types on this thread. When will people stop with the dick measuring and just bloody get on with life and respect each other’s choices and lives for gods sakes.
They started out as “proper vaccines”, you know, ones that are useful for PREVENTING THE CONTRACTION AND SPREAD of a disease (aka A VACCINE), then “they” saw that wasn’t happening so “they” thought, “oh ****, that’s ok, we‘ll just change the definition of a “vaccine” then……
Keep moving those goalposts and here we are today, where the WHO has changed definitions of both “vaccine” and “pandemic” to suit their ham fisted and ridiculous approach to this whole saga…… BECAUSE THEY DONT WORK.
As for “Wizofoz”, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone better or more accurately deserving for the label “oztranought”. The smug, nose in the air and holier than though attitude on the bloke is an absolute delight to watch. They’re the type that are an absolute pleasure to fly with, talk only about themselves and “the old days”, while bitching and whining about the younger generation that don’t listen to them and their pointless stories about how good they are and how **** everybody else is… Looking out the window and trying to climb out it tends to be distracting and leads these legends of their own lunchboxes to think that you’re a distracted or substandard operator when all that’s going on is another crew member thinking about how to avoid this prat at every turn when we get to the hotel.
Wiz and his mates are perfect examples of how human decency, lack of respect and perverted authoritarianism have become the dominant strain of the most insidious disease in Australia now, which largely means, more than anything that they stick their large, unwelcome and arrogant noses into other people’s lives and demand that everybody else “do what we say because we know better than you damn it and you’d better listen to me!”
FFS blokes, get your noses out of someone else’s business, if you’ve had your jab then piss off and leave everybody else alone, ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS…..
Yeah yeah, “bUt The hoSPiTalS” etc etc…. Whatever makes you feel better about being a nosey old **** that can’t keep it in his pants and just stay out of other people’s choices, like the rest of you rabid “pro vaxxers”. It’s you people that are perpetuating this garbage and ruining our bloody country with your divisive rhetoric and abusive stances that involve the vilification of people who wish to simply make different choices than you and take responsibility for their own lives and health. (Side note, I don’t see ANY difference in the Covid situation since the jabs were brought in, but anyway)
The weird obsession with interfering in people’s medical lives and all of a sudden demanding to interfere in everybody’s private lives is the real problem here. Justifying the persecution and abuse of people based on their medical choices is extreme and one day, people like you lot will be looked upon as the bullies and absolute abhorrent beings that you are. No one has the right to force anything medical on someone AND THAT INCLUDES threatening them, their employment, their movement or their place in society. The number of people you’re trying to “save the world” against (those who get sick and run around spreading it for fun and trying to kill the population with the dreaded lurgy) are so small that you yourself look like a loony tin foil hat wearer by trying to say that they’re everywhere and that as a result, the whole population needs locking up and being jabbed against their will.
Prune brings out the best in aviation, as evidenced by the “Wizofoz” types on this thread. When will people stop with the dick measuring and just bloody get on with life and respect each other’s choices and lives for gods sakes.
Well with a post like that 22 you just failed the intelligence measuring contest. Rehashing stupid slogans like vaccines dont work and we all have choices arguments, guess i'll go get drunk and wipe out your loved ones in a car wreck, cause its muh choice....
BTW if you want an un-stupid comparison of vaccinations vs not, visit Texas, the land of choice, where 4.4 million of the 29 million have had covid and 75,000 have died from it and climbing, thats just under 2% death rate. With a total population fo 29 million that's about in comparison to Australia with similar demographics and population densities. Vaccination rate is 50% because 'muh choice' and most deaths and hospitalisations are un-vaccinated, add to that massive public and private debts, unemployment rising and inflation about to go ballistic. Compared to Australia that has combated the virus with lockdowns and high vaccination where the death rate has dropped now to well below 1%, the economy is going back to normal, budget deficit is revised significantly down, the housing market is through the roof and unemployment is going down. Not sure where 'muh choices' have got everyone else.
BTW if you want an un-stupid comparison of vaccinations vs not, visit Texas, the land of choice, where 4.4 million of the 29 million have had covid and 75,000 have died from it and climbing, thats just under 2% death rate. With a total population fo 29 million that's about in comparison to Australia with similar demographics and population densities. Vaccination rate is 50% because 'muh choice' and most deaths and hospitalisations are un-vaccinated, add to that massive public and private debts, unemployment rising and inflation about to go ballistic. Compared to Australia that has combated the virus with lockdowns and high vaccination where the death rate has dropped now to well below 1%, the economy is going back to normal, budget deficit is revised significantly down, the housing market is through the roof and unemployment is going down. Not sure where 'muh choices' have got everyone else.
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Funny. My kids have had the chicken pox vaccine. Years ago. And it was called a vaccine back then. Doesn’t stop them getting it, but they get just a few spots instead of hundreds with raging fevers and are way less likely to transmit. Sound familiar?
To those saying “you do know that the vaccine is designed to reduce people’s symptoms, NOT to stop infection” or some load of sh&t to that effect.
They started out as “proper vaccines”, you know, ones that are useful for PREVENTING THE CONTRACTION AND SPREAD of a disease (aka A VACCINE), then “they” saw that wasn’t happening so “they” thought, “oh ****, that’s ok, we‘ll just change the definition of a “vaccine” then……
They started out as “proper vaccines”, you know, ones that are useful for PREVENTING THE CONTRACTION AND SPREAD of a disease (aka A VACCINE), then “they” saw that wasn’t happening so “they” thought, “oh ****, that’s ok, we‘ll just change the definition of a “vaccine” then……
Thought I'd add these news articles;
A good run down on what's happening, the maps are particularly telling, who would've known the low vaccination areas would have significantly higher virus rates despite having lower population.
https://apps.texastribune.org/featur...466.1639694317
And for those shouting the 'died with covid' mantra;
https://dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covi...on-status.aspx
Note that some of the highest protection afforded was for those in their 40s, not for the near death 80+.
PS for those who find maths hard 20 times less deaths would mean of the 10,000 that have died since vaccination has been available only 500 would have died, so that's effectively saying 9500 people died for pretty much no reason.
A good run down on what's happening, the maps are particularly telling, who would've known the low vaccination areas would have significantly higher virus rates despite having lower population.
https://apps.texastribune.org/featur...466.1639694317
And for those shouting the 'died with covid' mantra;
As of Dec. 15, 73,568 people who tested positive for the virus have died in Texas. DSHS counts deaths based on death certificates that list COVID-19 as the cause of death, which excludes deaths of people with COVID-19 who died of another cause.
Key Findings
Key Findings
- From September 4 through October 1, 2021:
- Unvaccinated people were 13 times more likely to become infected with COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people.
- Unvaccinated people were 20 times more likely to experience COVID-19-associated death than fully vaccinated people.
- Vaccination had a strong protective effect on infections and deaths among people of all ages. The protective impact on infections was consistent across adult age groups and even greater in people ages 12 to 17 years. The protective impact on COVID-19 deaths, which was high for all age groups, varied more widely. In the September time frame, unvaccinated people in their 40s were 55 times more likely to die from COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated people of the same age. Unvaccinated people aged 75 years and older were 12 times more likely to die than their vaccinated counterparts.
- Overall, regardless of vaccination status, people in Texas were four to five times more likely to become infected with COVID-19 or suffer a COVID-19-associated death while the Delta variant was prevalent in Texas (August 2021) compared with a period before the Delta variant became prevalent (April 2021).
PS for those who find maths hard 20 times less deaths would mean of the 10,000 that have died since vaccination has been available only 500 would have died, so that's effectively saying 9500 people died for pretty much no reason.
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To those saying “you do know that the vaccine is designed to reduce people’s symptoms, NOT to stop infection” or some load of sh&t to that effect.
They started out as “proper vaccines”, you know, ones that are useful for PREVENTING THE CONTRACTION AND SPREAD of a disease (aka A VACCINE), then “they” saw that wasn’t happening so “they” thought, “oh ****, that’s ok, we‘ll just change the definition of a “vaccine” then……
Keep moving those goalposts and here we are today, where the WHO has changed definitions of both “vaccine” and “pandemic” to suit their ham fisted and ridiculous approach to this whole saga…… BECAUSE THEY DONT WORK.
As for “Wizofoz”, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone better or more accurately deserving for the label “oztranought”. The smug, nose in the air and holier than though attitude on the bloke is an absolute delight to watch. They’re the type that are an absolute pleasure to fly with, talk only about themselves and “the old days”, while bitching and whining about the younger generation that don’t listen to them and their pointless stories about how good they are and how **** everybody else is… Looking out the window and trying to climb out it tends to be distracting and leads these legends of their own lunchboxes to think that you’re a distracted or substandard operator when all that’s going on is another crew member thinking about how to avoid this prat at every turn when we get to the hotel.
Wiz and his mates are perfect examples of how human decency, lack of respect and perverted authoritarianism have become the dominant strain of the most insidious disease in Australia now, which largely means, more than anything that they stick their large, unwelcome and arrogant noses into other people’s lives and demand that everybody else “do what we say because we know better than you damn it and you’d better listen to me!”
FFS blokes, get your noses out of someone else’s business, if you’ve had your jab then piss off and leave everybody else alone, ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS…..
Yeah yeah, “bUt The hoSPiTalS” etc etc…. Whatever makes you feel better about being a nosey old **** that can’t keep it in his pants and just stay out of other people’s choices, like the rest of you rabid “pro vaxxers”. It’s you people that are perpetuating this garbage and ruining our bloody country with your divisive rhetoric and abusive stances that involve the vilification of people who wish to simply make different choices than you and take responsibility for their own lives and health. (Side note, I don’t see ANY difference in the Covid situation since the jabs were brought in, but anyway)
The weird obsession with interfering in people’s medical lives and all of a sudden demanding to interfere in everybody’s private lives is the real problem here. Justifying the persecution and abuse of people based on their medical choices is extreme and one day, people like you lot will be looked upon as the bullies and absolute abhorrent beings that you are. No one has the right to force anything medical on someone AND THAT INCLUDES threatening them, their employment, their movement or their place in society. The number of people you’re trying to “save the world” against (those who get sick and run around spreading it for fun and trying to kill the population with the dreaded lurgy) are so small that you yourself look like a loony tin foil hat wearer by trying to say that they’re everywhere and that as a result, the whole population needs locking up and being jabbed against their will.
Prune brings out the best in aviation, as evidenced by the “Wizofoz” types on this thread. When will people stop with the dick measuring and just bloody get on with life and respect each other’s choices and lives for gods sakes.
They started out as “proper vaccines”, you know, ones that are useful for PREVENTING THE CONTRACTION AND SPREAD of a disease (aka A VACCINE), then “they” saw that wasn’t happening so “they” thought, “oh ****, that’s ok, we‘ll just change the definition of a “vaccine” then……
Keep moving those goalposts and here we are today, where the WHO has changed definitions of both “vaccine” and “pandemic” to suit their ham fisted and ridiculous approach to this whole saga…… BECAUSE THEY DONT WORK.
As for “Wizofoz”, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone better or more accurately deserving for the label “oztranought”. The smug, nose in the air and holier than though attitude on the bloke is an absolute delight to watch. They’re the type that are an absolute pleasure to fly with, talk only about themselves and “the old days”, while bitching and whining about the younger generation that don’t listen to them and their pointless stories about how good they are and how **** everybody else is… Looking out the window and trying to climb out it tends to be distracting and leads these legends of their own lunchboxes to think that you’re a distracted or substandard operator when all that’s going on is another crew member thinking about how to avoid this prat at every turn when we get to the hotel.
Wiz and his mates are perfect examples of how human decency, lack of respect and perverted authoritarianism have become the dominant strain of the most insidious disease in Australia now, which largely means, more than anything that they stick their large, unwelcome and arrogant noses into other people’s lives and demand that everybody else “do what we say because we know better than you damn it and you’d better listen to me!”
FFS blokes, get your noses out of someone else’s business, if you’ve had your jab then piss off and leave everybody else alone, ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS…..
Yeah yeah, “bUt The hoSPiTalS” etc etc…. Whatever makes you feel better about being a nosey old **** that can’t keep it in his pants and just stay out of other people’s choices, like the rest of you rabid “pro vaxxers”. It’s you people that are perpetuating this garbage and ruining our bloody country with your divisive rhetoric and abusive stances that involve the vilification of people who wish to simply make different choices than you and take responsibility for their own lives and health. (Side note, I don’t see ANY difference in the Covid situation since the jabs were brought in, but anyway)
The weird obsession with interfering in people’s medical lives and all of a sudden demanding to interfere in everybody’s private lives is the real problem here. Justifying the persecution and abuse of people based on their medical choices is extreme and one day, people like you lot will be looked upon as the bullies and absolute abhorrent beings that you are. No one has the right to force anything medical on someone AND THAT INCLUDES threatening them, their employment, their movement or their place in society. The number of people you’re trying to “save the world” against (those who get sick and run around spreading it for fun and trying to kill the population with the dreaded lurgy) are so small that you yourself look like a loony tin foil hat wearer by trying to say that they’re everywhere and that as a result, the whole population needs locking up and being jabbed against their will.
Prune brings out the best in aviation, as evidenced by the “Wizofoz” types on this thread. When will people stop with the dick measuring and just bloody get on with life and respect each other’s choices and lives for gods sakes.
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So I take it your children kept on being injected with that vaccine ever since every six month? You know because that's how vaccine work, because "science".