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Old 17th Jan 2021, 08:52
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Agreed. I heard McClown a few weeks back in the media refer to an occurrence as “unWest Australian” !!! So West Australians, apparently, have a different set of values now !
You do realise that Beryl does not have carte blanche to define "Australian values", right?
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 09:01
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"Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt said on Sunday morning the lack of transmission of the UK strain of COVID-19 showed there was, "very, very clear evidence that the Australian system had been tested and tested again and continues to function".

Given that Federal involvement is quite limited, that is quite a statement.

Tennis players?

On individual exemptions granted by the Department of Home Affairs, Australian Government.

As international arrivals, of course.


Blindingly obvious, probably a surprise to some...
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 09:03
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What’s your point ?
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 09:07
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Derive your own conclusions from the facts presented.

Far be it from me to tell you what to think.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 09:31
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Sorry, my question was to WingNut60.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 09:38
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That Western Australia has every right to decline becoming a NSW clone.

We made that point when we initially declined to join the Federation.
The feeling hasn't changed much in the intervening 120 years.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 09:46
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Originally Posted by benttrees
Agreed. I heard McClown a few weeks back in the media refer to an occurrence as “unWest Australian” !!! So West Australians, apparently, have a different set of values now !
Parochialism has always been a tactic used by Political leaders of all stripes, a quick google search reveals every single state and territory has had the use of the term "Un-SA/NT/Qld/Tassie" etc.

I'd go a step further and say the term "Un-Australian" is equally as meaningless, because when ever someone is challenged to list these uniquely Australian values they just rattle off common standards of human decency.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 09:48
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And in those 120 years, WA has happily accepted the generosity the Commonwealth has offered!
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 10:24
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And in those 120 years, WA has happily accepted the generosity the Commonwealth has offered!
And vice versa.....or are you suggesting that WA has not played it's part?
Give us the right to jump ship and you might be surprised by the result.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 11:14
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Originally Posted by WingNut60
And vice versa.....or are you suggesting that WA has not played it's part?
Give us the right to jump ship and you might be surprised by the result.
If successful the interesting question would be whether WA Independent (or whatever you want to call it) would waste money on a defense force.

That would determine whether the Chinese are resisted or welcomed with open arms when they decide to colonise WA Independent (or whatever you want to call it) for the iron ore.

For once the cry "the world's most remote capital" will ring true as you're left to fight your own battles as you see fit.
Plus all that remoteness for re-education camps and all that desert for burying bodies - wet dreams for the current Chinese dictatorship.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 11:32
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Now tell me again, what is McGowan supposed to be doing wrong?
I think things would have been a little different if each state had to pick up the tab for all the measures that the Feds have poured directly to the populous.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 11:33
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As I understand, this particular forum is for Australia, New Zealand and the South Pacific.

You uber-parochial Westralians can go get your own forum where you can praise McClown for the simplest of COVID strategies - one which decimates aviation by the day, and has had a huge impact on the airline workers of WA with unnecessary and irrational quarantine requirements.

He has enacted a simple plan for a state of simple people. Enough is enough.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 12:05
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Originally Posted by Transition Layer
As I understand, this particular forum is for Australia, New Zealand and the South Pacific.

You uber-parochial Westralians can go get your own forum where you can praise McClown for the simplest of COVID strategies - one which decimates aviation by the day, and has had a huge impact on the airline workers of WA with unnecessary and irrational quarantine requirements.

He has enacted a simple plan for a state of simple people. Enough is enough.
Enough is enough of what? WA opens its borders and all flying in Australia goes back to normal? Is that what you are saying? Then WA is the heart of the nation.. perhaps we should move the ACT over here.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 12:33
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Enough of the border decisions based on popular politics instead of real health issues.

Everyone knows there’s very little chance domestic aviation will go back to normal any time soon but with McCoward’s knee jerk policies in place, the chance is zero.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 18:20
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I would love to see WA have a succession McClown supreme ruler all ties to be cut with Australia. That means paying you’re own health care, unemployment, financing and rehabilitating remote communities oh don’t forget you need to defend your self you will need Army, Navy and Air Force most of those will be Australian citizens they will have to return to the mother country.
WA ppl think they could do it alone just because of a little iron ore I’d would love to see it happen. Please let’s vote it has mine.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 18:20
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Originally Posted by WingNut60
And vice versa.....or are you suggesting that WA has not played it's part?
Give us the right to jump ship and you might be surprised by the result.
no worries. You lose all federal funding. You lose your passport. You can’t call yourself West Australian’ because you’re not part of Australia. You have mining. Great. Other trade? Perhaps these countries you trade with will decide to ‘renegotiate’ terms. Who controls the waters off your coastline? Not Mcclown. Who controls your air rights? Not Mcclown.

All you ‘let us leave and things will be better’ morons really have no idea, and continuously prove that maybe you’re not the smartest people in the room.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 19:40
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The arrogance and ignorance of some is sad. GST breakdown state by state 2018-19 State GST share per dollar of Total GST distribution $m VIC 98c $16,830M WA 47c $3,255M NSW 85c $18,030M SA $1.47 $6,751 M
and here for how much WA supports the rest of the country: https://www.dfat.gov.au/sites/defaul...ry-2018-19.pdf for balance of payments data.

WA earns 36% of Australian export income but only spends 11% of the import expenditure. About half the exports go to China.. WA would potentially be better off alone. In 1933 the population voted overwhelmingly to secede. With respect to names, only WA and SA are named as part of Australia. The other mainland states seem to cling to the motherland!
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 20:18
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McGowan land should have a long and prosperous future then. All the best.

Anyway, preliminary reports have a hotel worker and a police officer returning positives in hotel quarantine in Melbourne. Let’s hope they can control the tennis players also.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 20:37
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
McGowan land should have a long and prosperous future then. All the best.

Anyway, preliminary reports have a hotel worker and a police officer returning positives in hotel quarantine in Melbourne. Let’s hope they can control the tennis players also.
5 people in total now infected from the tennis charter flights,i would have thought these people would be a really low risk group considering the testing regime etc they go through.
I know there are plenty on here saying borders should be open & more people allowed back into the country but of the people outside our borders,how many have it & how many are going to spread it?
Quarantine is the only way to control it & there are limits on every service that can be provided.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 20:45
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Originally Posted by goodonyamate
no worries. You lose all federal funding. You lose your passport. You can’t call yourself West Australian’ because you’re not part of Australia. You have mining. Great. Other trade? Perhaps these countries you trade with will decide to ‘renegotiate’ terms. Who controls the waters off your coastline? Not Mcclown. Who controls your air rights? Not Mcclown.

All you ‘let us leave and things will be better’ morons really have no idea, and continuously prove that maybe you’re not the smartest people in the room.
No worries to you too. You lose all West Australian revenue. We buy a printing press and make our own passports. We can proudly call ourselves "West Australian’ or anything else we like.
We have mining. Other trade? (2019 - WA produced 58% of Australia's wheat exports, >60% of LNG exports).
Domestic banana production is adequate for WA market. You can keep yours.
Perhaps those countries we trade with will agree to ‘renegotiate’ improved terms.
We get to control the waters off our coastline and actually allocate some resources to this side of the continent.
And yes, we get to control our air rights - funded by over-flight charges paid by "eastern Australians" heading for Europe.

Then let's see how the five remaining states establish equitable voting rights in the senate.
You know, majority of the people in the majority of the states. Or maybe you don't.
Or set yourselves up as a US style republic - 1st president Beryl. Replace the Cook statue at Kurnell with one of Beryl and Daryl.
I'd give it twenty years before inter-state rivalry turned into civil war.

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