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Old 18th Jan 2021, 04:02
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The arrogance and ignorance of some is sad. GST breakdown state by state 2018-19 State GST share per dollar of Total GST distribution $m VIC 98c $16,830M WA 47c $3,255M NSW 85c $18,030M SA $1.47 $6,751 M
and here for how much WA supports the rest of the country: https://www.dfat.gov.au/sites/defaul...ry-2018-19.pdf for balance of payments data.

WA earns 36% of Australian export income but only spends 11% of the import expenditure. About half the exports go to China.. WA would potentially be better off alone. In 1933 the population voted overwhelmingly to secede. With respect to names, only WA and SA are named as part of Australia. The other mainland states seem to cling to the motherland!
I hope that happens and then they can shut their borders off for good. Oh and they can take Clive Palmer as well
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 04:25
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WA would potentially be better off alone. In 1933 the population voted overwhelmingly to secede. With respect to names, only WA and SA are named as part of Australia. The other mainland states seem to cling to the motherland!
So how do feel about conscription for all WA children?

Seceding would be the biggest own goal in the history of the world.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 04:34
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That was actually made so about 20 years BEFORE the 1918 flu:

51. Legislative powers of the Parliament

The (Federal) Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to:

(ix) quarantine;
Yes and no.

"Under section 51(ix) of the Constitution, the Commonwealth has power over the states regarding quarantine. Where state and Commonwealth laws are inconsistent, the Commonwealth law prevails.(10) However, this principle proved less clear-cut than its drafters probably intended"

"Before an amendment to the Act in 1912 the Commonwealth did not have the power to act in response to a number of diseases, such as a measles epidemic aboard a ship. The states had the power, but no resources, to take quarantine measures"

"In 1920 the Act was amended to address these constitutional and administrative problems. Section 2A(3) was inserted to give the Commonwealth power to override state legislation by proclamation in an emergency."

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliam.../rp0405/05rp03



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Old 18th Jan 2021, 05:26
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Iím not a lawyer, does that mean the commonwealth can override the states, but choose not to?
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 05:54
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Have a look at the link Ragnor. It does not override the States ability to close its borders and apply restriction in response to a public health threat. It does explain why the States have no authority over which vaccines are selected and how it is distributed as an example.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 06:00
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It does explain why the States have no authority over which vaccines are selected and how it is distributed as an example.
Someone better tell McClown and his offsider Cook. He thinks he can call the shots on that too. Maybe he should pay for it then!

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....13-p56tsv.html
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 06:24
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Someone better tell McClown and his offsider Cook. He thinks he can call the shots on that too. Maybe he should pay for it then!
Actually no, the federal government selected and bought the vaccine supply and distributed to the states proportioned by population who are responsible for health.

So according to all applicable legislation, division of powers and the National Covid Vaccine Policy once the WA government get the vaccine they are the ones calling the shots in regards to locations, staff, etc.

And having at look at their plans itís no different from any other state in terms of priority.

I realise you donít like the WA Governmentís border approach but you donít have to blow a gasket every time theyíre mentioned in the press, otherwise youíre going to have an unhappy life.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 07:00
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dr dre, are you in hotel isolation? Have you been there for 10 months?
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 07:00
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I realise you donít like the WA Governmentís border approach but you donít have to blow a gasket every time theyíre mentioned in the press, otherwise youíre going to have an unhappy life.
Youíre dead right. McGowan will probably ride this popularity ground swell forever and Iím going to have to live with his smug face on TV for the rest of my unhappy life!

Please make it stop!
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 07:30
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You muppet, you do realise there's another way or two to Europe? I bet you drive a HSV ute right?
Not if you aspire to non-stop, there isn't.

And I bet you drive a Hyundai Ioniq, right?
Or perhaps, don't have a licence yet?
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 07:52
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Not if you aspire to non-stop, there isn't.
I'd make 5 stops to bypass your bogan mecca.

Nissan Navarra, although, the k's I'm doing at the moment an i30 would do me nicely, made from steel mined from your cesspit.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 08:49
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Mystery to me why people that harbour such a dislike for any particular locality are so concerned when they cannot go there....

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Old 18th Jan 2021, 13:52
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mystery to me why people that harbour such a dislike for any particular locality are so concerned when they cannot go there....

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Old 18th Jan 2021, 13:55
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Treasurer Josh Frydenberg rules out making changes to unwind GST deal with WA

Looks like Beryl lost another round
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 18:56
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With the treasurer saying jobkeeper won’t be extended, what assistance can those of us who are employed but not getting a wage expect to receive?

I assume we won’t be eligible for Jobseeker due to the fact that we apparently have jobs. Is there anything at all we’ll be able to access (genuine question)?

Its pretty poor form from the LNP. If you haven’t already, may I suggest a quick email to your local federal member.


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Old 18th Jan 2021, 21:27
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Originally Posted by currawong View Post
Mystery to me why people that harbour such a dislike for any particular locality are so concerned when they cannot go there....

It's not that, I'm trying to look at how individual leaders have done things rather than political labelling, as the whole CV19 is a moving target personally I think some have handled it better than others.

NSW and Vic having screwed up at the start have both been forced to develop reasonable contract tracing to deal with inevitable outbreaks when people start moving around.

McGowan has preached eradication, if they have instituted contract tracing it's unclear to what extent and it's never been tested in anger, ongoing response is to hide under the bedcovers and operate as a hostage state.

I can see how I'd be looking to come into the state election campaign as opposition - "if you never want to see your east coast grandkiddies ever again that's your choice vote McGowan, if you think that's not really the way to live life better think of the other bloke".
Nuanced of course and local issues to ask about the future/past failures raised ie standard political stuff but do NOT not allow the messiahic "I saved you you must vote for me" crap that Queen P was allowed to run with unhindered by a piss weak clueless opposition in QLD.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 22:05
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I can see how I'd be looking to come into the state election campaign as opposition - "if you never want to see your east coast grandkiddies ever again that's your choice vote McGowan, if you think that's not really the way to live life better think of the other bloke"
Actually the ďother blokeĒ (opposition leader Zak Kirkup) is in agreement now with McGowan on border closures. He ďfully supported and endorsedĒ the decision to apply a hard border to Qld.

Itís a moot point, heís unlikely to retain his seat anyway at the election (holds it on a 0.7% margin) and the Libs are going to be wiped out in March.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 22:14
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Emperor McGowan

McGowan holds the highest approval rating of any modern politician in Australia, the March election is effectively a formality. If I were the WA Libs Iíd be more concerned about the following election.

If I were McGowan Iíd be spending more time talking to federal Libs to try to wheel and deal some programs that would benefit both parties.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 23:35
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heard a rumour that China is quietly offering very cheap loans in the Pacific. As many billions as these island nations want (that they'll never ever be able to repay).

We better all start learning mandarin.
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Old 19th Jan 2021, 02:49
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heard a rumour that China is quietly offering very cheap loans in the Pacific. As many billions as these island nations want (that they'll never ever be able to repay).
They have been doing world wide for years. Mainly concentrating in africa but have been doing it in the pacific as well. Just not to same scale of africa
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