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Old 17th Dec 2020, 00:46
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It must be australian international crews because foreign crew are quarantined in hotels till their flight out. Blanco Liro blogged his time in sydney quarantine during his 24 layover in sydney
All other international arrivals have been made to quarantine at Darwin’s Howard Springs facility but an NT Health spokeswoman said under national guidelines flight crew are able to undertake quarantine “under an alternative arrangement”.

Have the national guidelines been revised since the Canadian pilots took a few strolls in Darwin a few months back, while in hotel quarantine?
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 00:52
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Originally Posted by Bend alot

Have the national guidelines been revised since the Canadian pilots took a few strolls in Darwin a few months back, while in hotel quarantine?
They were different they weren't transiting, they were coming out here for for the fire fighting season and were going to be here for 6 months or what ever. They were also not in hotel quarantine they were in a self isolation in the same way that movie crews, sporting teams and celebrities / rich people can avoid the HQ

Transiting crews are loaded up taken to a hotel and locked in the room then taken back to plane next day and they fly out, in blancos case he is a co pilot on a 777 doing cargo and he is afik held in a HQ same guards same no leaving room rules
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 01:14
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Originally Posted by rattman
They were different they weren't transiting, they were coming out here for for the fire fighting season and were going to be here for 6 months or what ever. They were also not in hotel quarantine they were in a self isolation in the same way that movie crews, sporting teams and celebrities / rich people can avoid the HQ

Transiting crews are loaded up taken to a hotel and locked in the room then taken back to plane next day and they fly out, in blancos case he is a co pilot on a 777 doing cargo and he is afik held in a HQ same guards same no leaving room rules

I am a pilot and sometimes return from overseas as a passenger. Am I exempt from hotel quarantine?

Under the NSW Public Health Orders, you are not exempt unless you are part of the flight crew on the particular flight and you are required to enter hotel quarantine. This is also applicable to cabin crew or other airline crew who are not part of the flight crew on any given flight arriving in NSW from overseas.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...tine-faqs.aspx

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Old 17th Dec 2020, 06:46
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Annnnndddd..... There it is.

The WA Border is effectively closed to NSW again. Unless you want to spend two weeks in detention - at your own cost mind you. Source. Guess I'm still not going back to work anytime soon...
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 06:54
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Annnnndddd..... There it is.

The WA Border is effectively closed to NSW again. Unless you want to spend two weeks in detention - at your own cost mind you. Source. Guess I'm still not going back to work anytime soon...
It's actually a bit nuanced this time, just have to take a test on arrival and self isolate until you receive a negative result.
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 06:54
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Originally Posted by KRviator
Annnnndddd..... There it is.

The WA Border is effectively closed to NSW again. Unless you want to spend two weeks in detention - at your own cost mind you. Source. Guess I'm still not going back to work anytime soon...
Talk about exaggerating, its a one day quarantine until covid test results come through.....Also im sure you just forgot to mention TAS imposed restrictions earlier today for NSW.....
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 09:33
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The airlines really need to push back on this WA idiot. If there's no cost to him he'll keep doing this until the election is over.

The airlines should suspend all services to WA until, at a minimum, 14 days have passed since the past lockout.

The government should suspend all job seeker/job keeper payments to WA, let the bastard rely on his "surplus" gained at the expense of the rest of Australia.
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 09:49
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The airlines really need to push back on this WA idiot. If there's no cost to him he'll keep doing this until the election is over.

The airlines should suspend all services to WA until, at a minimum, 14 days have passed since the past lockout.

The government should suspend all job seeker/job keeper payments to WA, let the bastard rely on his "surplus" gained at the expense of the rest of Australia.
You are OK with Tassie?

I think he has a valid case - I have travel plans. But if they do not pan out ok.

The breach has been via an aircraft arrival - take some responsibility.

Australia had ZERO community cases for a long time -We imported them via aircraft, then we had community cases.

But the line is still never a case of Covid has been proven on a flight or a crew.

Good I'll take a ship then!
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 09:51
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Talk about exaggerating, its a one day quarantine until covid test results come through.....Also im sure you just forgot to mention TAS imposed restrictions earlier today for NSW.....
Liberal = good
Labor = bad
That's the general consensus on this forum.
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 10:26
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The breach has been via an aircraft arrival - take some responsibility.
There is no link between the shuttle bus driver and the cases on the Northern Beaches.
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 10:30
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There is no link between the shuttle bus driver and the cases on the Northern Beaches.
Not what I said. It is linked to air travel

Not a train on the Northern Beaches..
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 10:39
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WA has now re-imposed the full 'hard border' with NSW with mandatory 14 day quarantine reimposed effective 12:01am Friday 18 December.

Breaking just now across the news and social media platforms.
Initial Source: @nat_forest / @10newsfirstper
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 11:02
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It's a shame Mcgowan can't place any faith in contact tracing, it has been proven time and again it works. Unfortunately he has created the perfect storm in WA where he cannot allow a single case in as WA is not prepared to manage a potential outbreak. Surely this cannot continue, it's criminal the damage it causes the community.
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 11:55
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Surely this cannot continue, it's criminal the damage it causes the community.
Well let’s see. So far in Sydney we’ve seen no firm action, just a few requests to stay at home, which I’m sure over the weekend before Christmas in the northern beaches will be observed without question..../s

Let’s see what the numbers look like in a few days, the cases seem to be from all over the northern beaches, and one positive case who traveled all over the city including Penrith. The numbers may jump significantly. At that point in the SA outbreak a lockdown was enforced which stopped the spread. Will Gladys have the guts to do one if required during Christmas week? I think that may throw most holiday plans in the bin.

On the other hand in WA it’s fairly certain they’ll be having a normal Christmas. You think West Aussies would rather be in northern Sydney right now?

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WA has now re-imposed the full 'hard border' with NSW with mandatory 14 day quarantine reimposed effective 12:01am Friday 18 December.
That’s not a hard border. You can still enter for any reason you just have to self isolate.

Tasmania has prevented entry to anyone who has been in Sydney’s northern beaches, Queensland will impose 14 day isolation to anyone from that region. If the outbreak spreads beyond the Northern beaches I’d say other states will follow suit and extend it to all of Sydney.

As Queensland has also followed suit and instituted restrictions, that should silence the conspiracy theorists here that Palaszczuk was only being tough on borders for election posturing. The truth is this is a serious virus, not just “a cold” as was said a few posts ago, and it needs to be dealt with seriously.

Where did this latest outbreak originate from that has already reached a vulnerable population (aged care)? So much for NSW having the “gold standard” approach according to Morrison.

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Old 17th Dec 2020, 11:58
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This is one time Gladys need to it hard stop mucking around NSW contact tracing has been proven to work but now with Xmas and summer approaching ppl are moving around a lot more. The 60 and 70 yr old that were first positive need to be charged as they did not stay home whilst awaiting results they went on multiple trips to shops.

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Old 17th Dec 2020, 12:16
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Seems every state is now shutting out northern beaches LGA, straight after the AHPPC meeting, which seems alarming.

Hopefully this can be contained, NSW have done a fab job with contact tracing but this could go bad very quickly
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Seems every state is now shutting out northern beaches LGA, straight after the AHPPC meeting, which seems alarming.

Hopefully this can be contained, NSW have done a fab job with contact tracing but this could go bad very quickly
It's already gone bad. From Victorias experience, if you have detected 17 cases, there are probably three times as many, unless all those cases are immobile nursing home residents. That means that the Sydney basin is already riddled with Covid, but you will need a week before you detect them. The folk from the northern beaches are, in general, reasonably affluent, mobile and are not going to alter their holiday plans willingly.

My prescription, which I doubt will be applied, because, well, it's Sydney, is the full Melbourne style lockdown complete with curfew, closures and masks. maybe in a month that would work. The only option for the rest of Australia is to close the state borders again, today.

On that subject, I was regaled yesterday with stories of 180 kmh races up the Newall Highway to get into Queensland before the last lockdown. The mine workers made it back from Victoria by two hours. My advice to interstate visitors in NSW is to get out today.
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 19:44
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The timing of this is most unfortunate.

Introducing a lockdown over the Christmas period will be met with limited compliance with the rules set out and probably also limited success.

Hopefully there is better news today with case numbers.

Merry Christmas All!
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 20:06
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Well its about to be confirmed it originated at Avalon RSL from an overseas traveler (flight crew, hotel worker to be confirmed). The ticking time bomb we all feared as exploded.
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Old 17th Dec 2020, 20:37
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Well its about to be confirmed it originated at Avalon RSL from an overseas traveler (flight crew, hotel worker to be confirmed). The ticking time bomb we all feared as exploded.
So,been overseas & because crew no quarantine required?
FFS,why not make it mandatory for at least a test as soon as anyone sets foot in the country & stay home till result received.Why is this so hard for health officers/politicians to work out.
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