All borders to reopen.
And, what's the population of Adelaide? 1.5 million? So around 1 case per 100,000 residents, give or take. Apply that rationale to Sydney and you'll need 70 cases to call it an equivalent outbreak. That being said, we might get there, and I say that as a NSW resident.
I bloody well will blame other states if they aren't willing to carry their fair share of the incoming passenger load. When was the last time Tasmania took a planeload of international arrivals. Every other state - and their citizens - has been more than happy to let NSW carry the can, in come cases, with 60+% of the incoming arrivals, yet with NSW only having around 30% of the Australian population! But they're also very quick & happy to decry "those filthy sickly NSWelshmen!" the instant something like this happens and shut the borders.
Yep, great times to be an Australian looking after your mates...
I bloody well will blame other states if they aren't willing to carry their fair share of the incoming passenger load. When was the last time Tasmania took a planeload of international arrivals. Every other state - and their citizens - has been more than happy to let NSW carry the can, in come cases, with 60+% of the incoming arrivals, yet with NSW only having around 30% of the Australian population! But they're also very quick & happy to decry "those filthy sickly NSWelshmen!" the instant something like this happens and shut the borders.
Yep, great times to be an Australian looking after your mates...
We went through it here in Vic for many many weeks & even had people in regional areas doing it to melbourne residents.
I think now because of what we went through we support our border being closed but not for a get back at other states but just to make sure we dont get locked up again.
No govt is perfect however i think we must agree in reality they are all dealing with something never seen before.
We hated & still do having to wear masks but is it that much of a sacrifice if it helps stop the spread?
I dont care if the premier is lib or lab,lets all do something to keep australia virus free.
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The dissapointing thing out of this, Australia and WA will close to NSW today I believe, however not one of the other states and WA will offer to take any load of international arrivals. Gladys needs to stop these now and take some pressure off Sydney for a few months or only allow NSW residents to enter via Sydney international.
Time for NSW to get tough for once.
Time for NSW to get tough for once.
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I'd prefer that Gladys stays the course. When you start behaving like the QLD & WA arseclowns you're no better than them right? I've had to do quite a bit of interstate travel over the past 8 months and the voice of reason has always been NSW. Hopefully business rewards NSW being the most stable state. I don't think it's a coincidence that people from other countries are making their way to NSW for some respite.
I'd prefer that Gladys stays the course. When you start behaving like the QLD & WA arseclowns you're no better than them right? I've had to do quite a bit of interstate travel over the past 8 months and the voice of reason has always been NSW. Hopefully business rewards NSW being the most stable state. I don't think it's a coincidence that people from other countries are making their way to NSW for some respite.
I do think she needs to make masks compulsory though particularly in all indoor public places,have a look at syd airport yesterday & considering xmas shopping going troppo this weekend,everybody needs to wear 1.
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This outbreak is different to other we have had and were able to manage easily. Now its xmas ppl will not listen they will get in their cars and bolt, go to the beach because its 35+ everyone gets the picture. Our course needs altering weather en route international needs to stop for the minute to ease the pressure so resources can be diverted and used defending our own city. We have the best contact tracing in the world they even have limits and can only manage maximum 50 cases a day.
The real concern is not northern beaches that can be easily contained its the drummer that played in the northern beaches and everywhere in between.
The real concern is not northern beaches that can be easily contained its the drummer that played in the northern beaches and everywhere in between.
This outbreak is different to other we have had and were able to manage easily. Now its xmas ppl will not listen they will get in their cars and bolt, go to the beach because its 35+ everyone gets the picture. Our course needs altering weather en route international needs to stop for the minute to ease the pressure so resources can be diverted and used defending our own city. We have the best contact tracing in the world they even have limits and can only manage maximum 50 cases a day.
The real concern is not northern beaches that can be easily contained its the drummer that played in the northern beaches and everywhere in between.
The real concern is not northern beaches that can be easily contained its the drummer that played in the northern beaches and everywhere in between.
If this outbreak isnt taken seriously the risk(like u point out) could be widespread yet it still looks like lots of people just dont get it.
Also the Tasmanian government is supplementing hotel workers wages so to avoid the situation of quarantine hotel staff working multiple jobs thus hopefully reducing the possibility of virus spread if a worker becomes infected, how many other governments are doing this?
I'll admit that the frequency of flights is obviously not high but keep in mind that Hobart "International" Airport doesn't have actually have immigration facilities etc and the state has a population of 550,000 (a bit over 10% of Sydney).
I do understand your frustration of other states not sharing the load but don't go thinking that ALL states and their constituents don't care.
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I’m baffled and frustrated that masks haven’t been mandated- at least in the short term.
The take up of masks would be high by the public in my opinion.
But when it’s optional all the fence sitters will think that the situation “can’t be too bad”, and carry on in their normal non-socially distanced ways.
I fear Gladys has missed a golden opportunity here. Could hurt her and the state badly, COVID doesn’t give you a second chance if you get it wrong.
The take up of masks would be high by the public in my opinion.
But when it’s optional all the fence sitters will think that the situation “can’t be too bad”, and carry on in their normal non-socially distanced ways.
I fear Gladys has missed a golden opportunity here. Could hurt her and the state badly, COVID doesn’t give you a second chance if you get it wrong.
I’m baffled that masks haven’t been mandated- at least in the short term.
The take up of masks would be high by the public in my opinion.
But when it’s optional all the fence sitters will think that the situation “can’t be too bad”, and carry on in their normal non-socially distanced ways.
I fear Gladys has missed a golden opportunity here. Could hurt her and the state badly.
The take up of masks would be high by the public in my opinion.
But when it’s optional all the fence sitters will think that the situation “can’t be too bad”, and carry on in their normal non-socially distanced ways.
I fear Gladys has missed a golden opportunity here. Could hurt her and the state badly.
Its not the time now to be selfish.
Western society is too lax and focused on individual rights “It’s my RIGHT to not wear a mask”. Asian society is focused on collective rights, protection of society is more important, don’t wear a mask and you’ll be punished. That’s why Asian nations have had such a low death rate compared to Western countries IMO.
Unless masks are made mandatory and punishments handed out for non compliance not enough people in this country will wear them. Same goes for large and non essential gatherings. Time for some decisive leadership.
Unless masks are made mandatory and punishments handed out for non compliance not enough people in this country will wear them. Same goes for large and non essential gatherings. Time for some decisive leadership.
Why do you say that? If you look at the number of returned travellers each state accepts per population it’s actually WA that accepts the most returnees at 1 traveller for every 2630 people, NSW next with 1 for every 2730 people, SA close behind at 1 per 3000. Qld and Victoria lag behind at 1 per 5200 and 6000.
Check the numbers yourselves here
Check the numbers yourselves here
What intrigues me, is where all of these returnees are coming from.
Government sources have been touting the backlog of 35000 people waiting to return for weeks (months) now.
Surely 5000 / week has reduced that backlog to near zero by now.
I can find a first reference to "the 35000 Australians" dating back to early in September.
And the most recent, still touting 35000, dated 10 December.
I do understand that there would be a steady trickle (stream?) of new registrations but I'd have thought that it might have reduced a significantly by now.
Does anyone know the number of actual returnees as compared to the either the federal or state imposed caps.
And yes, there are both.
And the most recent, still touting 35000, dated 10 December.
I do understand that there would be a steady trickle (stream?) of new registrations but I'd have thought that it might have reduced a significantly by now.
Does anyone know the number of actual returnees as compared to the either the federal or state imposed caps.
And yes, there are both.
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The comment around similar numbers forecasted for the current 24hrs might spook them, as well as the threat of metro restrictions to be announced tomorrow.
47 flights a day down to Melbourne, hard to sort of keep this going with still much unknown around seeding.
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After the recent announcement hopefully there are no knee jerk reactions. Appears to be contained in northern beaches which they have just went to a hard lockdown from 5pm today.
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What a joke, hardly a lock down.
“The reasons permitted for leaving home are work, for compassionate grounds, for exercise and for shopping”
ABC news
Very vague, who’s enforcing it? The template for this stuff should have been written months ago. How about some proper restrictions and mandatory mask wearing? Politically difficult and unpopular.
Premier thanks the Aust Hotel’ Assoc for voluntarily closing pubs in the Northern beaches, piss off, who’s in charge? Give them a bloody direction.
The whole country is very lucky we are a big sparsely populated island and have a hot summer instead of freezing Northern hemisphere winter.
Very few effective leaders and too many incompetent public servants, still.
“The reasons permitted for leaving home are work, for compassionate grounds, for exercise and for shopping”
ABC news
Very vague, who’s enforcing it? The template for this stuff should have been written months ago. How about some proper restrictions and mandatory mask wearing? Politically difficult and unpopular.
Premier thanks the Aust Hotel’ Assoc for voluntarily closing pubs in the Northern beaches, piss off, who’s in charge? Give them a bloody direction.
The whole country is very lucky we are a big sparsely populated island and have a hot summer instead of freezing Northern hemisphere winter.
Very few effective leaders and too many incompetent public servants, still.
What a joke, hardly a lock down.
“The reasons permitted for leaving home are work, for compassionate grounds, for exercise and for shopping”
ABC news
Very vague, who’s enforcing it? The template for this stuff should have been written months ago. How about some proper restrictions and mandatory mask wearing? Politically difficult and unpopular.
Premier thanks the Aust Hotel’ Assoc for voluntarily closing pubs in the Northern beaches, piss off, who’s in charge? Give them a bloody direction.
The whole country is very lucky we are a big sparsely populated island and have a hot summer instead of freezing Northern hemisphere winter.
Very few effective leaders and too many incompetent public servants, still.
“The reasons permitted for leaving home are work, for compassionate grounds, for exercise and for shopping”
ABC news
Very vague, who’s enforcing it? The template for this stuff should have been written months ago. How about some proper restrictions and mandatory mask wearing? Politically difficult and unpopular.
Premier thanks the Aust Hotel’ Assoc for voluntarily closing pubs in the Northern beaches, piss off, who’s in charge? Give them a bloody direction.
The whole country is very lucky we are a big sparsely populated island and have a hot summer instead of freezing Northern hemisphere winter.
Very few effective leaders and too many incompetent public servants, still.
And essential work exempt from lock down. So all those cabin crew from the northern beaches are expected to continue working, flying all around the country.
The shopping is only for grocery and essential item shopping. I guess that precludes Christmas gifts. The lockdown is until Christmas Eve, so expect a mad rush and packed shopping centres on the 24th. Sounds like a breeding ground for spread if the virus is not contained.