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Old 28th Dec 2016, 12:27
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Still haven't seen this FSO......yet
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 21:54
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“Over the years I've listened to people talk about politics, economics, astronomy, Investing, renovations, relationships, marriage, death, refugees”

These are not beliefs, they are opinions about various real, tangible subjects whereas:

“discussing Christianity on the flight deck”

Is about a belief in sky fairies!
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 00:42
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“discussing Christianity on the flight deck”

Is about a belief in sky fairies!
Sorry oicur but that can't go by without comment. With the risk of thread drift, I will mention just one point for you to consider - and especially relevant at 'Christmas' time: 'Christianity' involves belief in a historical figure of history, Jesus Christ. There is no question he existed in history (plenty of non-Biblical evidence). He was significant enough that for centuries history was marked as 'before Christ' and 'after Christ.'

Whether you believe he is what he claimed to be or not, he was certainly no sky fairy...

There is far to much political correctness these days and if people are so unsecure about their world view that they can't tolerate it coming up for discussion every now and then perhaps their comfort zone deserves to be challenged!
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 01:20
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Thread drift alert

Originally Posted by Captain Nomad View Post
Sorry oicur but that can't go by without comment. With the risk of thread drift, I will mention just one point for you to consider - and especially relevant at 'Christmas' time: 'Christianity' involves belief in a historical figure of history, Jesus Christ. There is no question he existed in history (plenty of non-Biblical evidence). He was significant enough that for centuries history was marked as 'before Christ' and 'after Christ.'

Whether you believe he is what he claimed to be or not, he was certainly no sky fairy...

There is far to much political correctness these days and if people are so unsecure about their world view that they can't tolerate it coming up for discussion every now and then perhaps their comfort zone deserves to be challenged!
Well that's just nonsense.

That said, Keg and I had a robust discussion about this very topic on Qrewroom many years ago that went on for 15 pages and had close to 300 replies. Please don't let this thread drift away from its intended purpose.

If you want to defend your ideology then start your own thread. I'm certain those interested in Qantas recruitment are not in the least interested in a debate over whether fairies exist, or not.
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 01:32
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Bless you my son, go forth and multiply!

Do Qantas have a preference for Catholics or Protestants these days?
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 01:55
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Bless you my son, go forth and multiply!

Do Qantas have a preference for Catholics or Protestants these days?
Neither. HR are the high priests at QF now, and their preference is for applicants who will, going forward, embrace diversity, empowerment and disruptive thinking, while reaching out holistically to perform a deep dive outside the box.
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 02:39
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Neither. HR are the high priests at QF now, and their preference is for applicants who will, going forward, embrace diversity, empowerment and disruptive thinking, while reaching out holistically to perform a deep dive outside the box.
Don't forget to mention the "stakeholders".

I hasten to add, I have no idea what a stakeholder is, maybe it's this guy?
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 03:00
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Shut it.

This banter is unbecoming of my profession.

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Old 29th Dec 2016, 05:38
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Originally Posted by FRQ Charlie Bravo View Post
Shut it.

This banter is unbecoming of my profession.

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First: "Shut it." Seriously?

Second: Having spent over three decades in my profession, I don't need you to tell me what is or isn't becoming of it.

And finally: You might want to rethink your attitude. Being rude, pompous and arrogant won't actually help your QF application (contrary to what some might claim ), and if your last post is any indication, not many people are going to look forward to sharing a flight deck with you.
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 08:27
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Itsnot... et al,

Settle down and stop looking for a fight where a fight doesn't exist please.

My comment is directed broadly towards the trivial bickering going on about religion and unnecessary personal attacks against PPRuNers.

Your little joke about HR bring the high priests was actually funny and not unbecoming.

...

Dammit, I am now responsible for another irrelevant post encouraging the ridiculous thread drift.

Methinks everybody needs to put some salt in everything they hear and some sugar in everything they say.

(I'm reminded of the Carly Simon sing that wasn't about that guy... except that it was when she started singing "I bet you think this song is about you, don't you...")

No more thread drifts please.

Edit: I think I'm quite good company in the flight deck! My mum says I'm cool!
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Old 31st Dec 2016, 12:36
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Originally Posted by Ollie Onion View Post
So all Jetstar pilots (and I assume all other group pilots) have just received a link for Expressions of Interest for Mainline jobs. I guess that Qantas must have worked their way through current holders of a Letter of Intent. Seems the recruitment wheels are moving slowly but surely.
The kids filed them in the " you have to be kidding basket" You want us to give up driving the B787, just to drive the B737 around the paddock, and get a white hat? Inya dreams.
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 01:05
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Internal recruitment looks to be continuing with people from Cobham, Network and Qlink having assessment dates but no one from JQ.
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 07:58
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Funny if they're actually holding Jetstar applicants back, I mean is that even legal? I would have thought it'd be a form of discrimination?

I'm assuming they're putting through external people to assessment days, but i haven't heard of any JQ's getting them yet.
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 08:17
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I would have thought it'd be a form of discrimination?
Selecting people to employ is THE definition of discrimination. That is how it works.
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 02:36
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not on the basis of current employer
Well isn't your current employer part of your experience?

At the end of the day they will take who they want and it is not "illegal" discrimination as defined in the Act.

Unfortunately in our enlightened western liberal democracy an employer has their hands tied. Eg. You own a small business and want a receptionist, you know you want a young lady but thanks to our current legislation you cannot state that in the advert. So lots of people apply including young men (or old ex pilots) who have simply wasted their time because you were never going to employ them anyway. Now we could debate whether this is "wrong" ad nauseum but it would not change anything.

When Kendell, Hazelton and Skywest became part of the Ansett group I believe there was tacit agreement of no poaching. Is that ilegal? No. Even if it was could you prove it? No.

Q will take who they want when they want from where they want. Of course they will not want to create two training slots by taking from "in house" but they still do so occasionally.
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 03:15
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I once went to an interview where the panel members told me "we're unlikely to hire you based on the previous two pilots we hired from your current employer "
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 03:41
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Then they should never have been allowed to interview anyone. Hopeless approach to interviewing keen candidates for positions.
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 13:27
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you know you want a young lady but thanks to our current legislation you cannot state that in the advert.
Why do you only want a young lady to the exclusion of any men or an old lady?
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 18:49
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"Funny if they're actually holding Jetstar applicants back, I mean is that even legal?"

No, its not legal.
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 20:10
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Looks to me as most people on here couldn't care less they are holding back Jetstar pilots. That is of course unless you are a jetstar pilot. Whether it's legal or not, it is wrong. Has it been done before? Sure. Will it be done again? You bet. But it does not change it from being wrong and unethical.
In times of large scale recruitment being held back months can make many years difference down the line for your career, getting that command or that east Coast base you want.
Jetstar clearly have their pilots numbers ridiculously short. As a result a lot of pilots at Jetstar hoping to make a career change into qantas will be affected. They either have the choice of jumping on the back of the que in qantas or staying at Jetstar. It's the individuals decision based on their age, their want to change jobs, family life etc etc.
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