Qantas Recruitment
What I meant to say rather than heavy, was air lift group, as opposed to maritime or fighter.
Hope that clears up the confusion.
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About 0.1% unless you are a current Qantas trainer. A330 until later in the year. (I would not knock back the 330, the pay and flying will be better than the 787, not to mention seniority by starting earlier)
So what's to stop someone getting a start on the 787, then bidding over to the 330 if they're continuing to recruit on the bus?
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Boating, Camping and Fishing I'd imagine.
Good time off after the endorsement, but the pay will be an issue, as you don't move to year 1 pay until after you check out on type.
Which leads me to the next point:
Wouldn't recruiting to both the A330 and 787 be contrary to the intent of the EA? Isn't that just the "day one lottery"? Especially when you factor in the above issue of pay for the first groups of 787 second officers.
Good time off after the endorsement, but the pay will be an issue, as you don't move to year 1 pay until after you check out on type.
Which leads me to the next point:
Wouldn't recruiting to both the A330 and 787 be contrary to the intent of the EA? Isn't that just the "day one lottery"? Especially when you factor in the above issue of pay for the first groups of 787 second officers.
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I think the 4 year type freeze is for those who bid to go to the aeroplane. It may not apply to S/Os allocated to it. I'd need to double check that in the EA.
Sandy, yep. Day 1 lottery again. S/Os will start in June, July, August, September, etc on the A330 while crew senior to them will be on the 787. It won't make too much of a difference in the first two years. It sure as heck does after that.I tried to warn them they were going to continue the day 1 lottery.
If someone starts on the 787 in May I suspect they'll train on it and 'check to line' the same as anyone else- probably in the back of a JQ aeroplane with a JQ TRE or CAT and a QF TRE or CAT doing the flying so I don't reckon they'll stay on TSO pay until the jet arrives months later.
If you do the maths it sort of makes sense with starting the courses in May. When the first 787 departs on it's service the second 787 will have arrived. Thus they'll need 30-40 S/Os ready to go by early December. They can't train them all at once and will need some lead time. So if your last S/Os finish early December you need to have started them 3 1/2 months prior to that. That makes it the beginning of September for them, a month earlier for the previous 8 (August) to take us to 16, July course take us to 24, June course for 32, May course for 40 S/Os by December.
Of course, what do you do with the S/Os who check out in late August/ early Sep? I dunno. time will tell I guess.
Sandy, yep. Day 1 lottery again. S/Os will start in June, July, August, September, etc on the A330 while crew senior to them will be on the 787. It won't make too much of a difference in the first two years. It sure as heck does after that.I tried to warn them they were going to continue the day 1 lottery.
If someone starts on the 787 in May I suspect they'll train on it and 'check to line' the same as anyone else- probably in the back of a JQ aeroplane with a JQ TRE or CAT and a QF TRE or CAT doing the flying so I don't reckon they'll stay on TSO pay until the jet arrives months later.
If you do the maths it sort of makes sense with starting the courses in May. When the first 787 departs on it's service the second 787 will have arrived. Thus they'll need 30-40 S/Os ready to go by early December. They can't train them all at once and will need some lead time. So if your last S/Os finish early December you need to have started them 3 1/2 months prior to that. That makes it the beginning of September for them, a month earlier for the previous 8 (August) to take us to 16, July course take us to 24, June course for 32, May course for 40 S/Os by December.
Of course, what do you do with the S/Os who check out in late August/ early Sep? I dunno. time will tell I guess.
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I've been told they are busy enough sorting through the existing pool of 700 plus applicants that completed stage 1 last year...why would they open the gates to more people at this stage.
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Anyone in know, your thoughts would be much appreciated
1. Would 700 include the Qantas group or just the second officer direct entries?
2. As the Qantas website states:
Recruitment process:
1. Initial application
2. Psychometric Testing
3.Online/telephone/ video interview
4. Assessment Centre(I.e. Group exercise, panel interview, behavioural based questions)
5. Sim
6. Medical
My question is stage 1 as mentioned above, were does that fit into the picture in terms of the above 6 stages????
By the way word on the street here in Darwin. 1000 total and a bit of multi. Will get a look in����
1. Would 700 include the Qantas group or just the second officer direct entries?
2. As the Qantas website states:
Recruitment process:
1. Initial application
2. Psychometric Testing
3.Online/telephone/ video interview
4. Assessment Centre(I.e. Group exercise, panel interview, behavioural based questions)
5. Sim
6. Medical
My question is stage 1 as mentioned above, were does that fit into the picture in terms of the above 6 stages????
By the way word on the street here in Darwin. 1000 total and a bit of multi. Will get a look in����
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Far Canel - I am across some of what is what at QF, although best verified by someone like Keg.
'Would 700 include the Qantas group or just the second officer direct entries?'
As far as I'm aware the 700 is only for SO. The others in the group I believe take care of their own recruitment needs.
'My question is stage 1 as mentioned above, were does that fit into the picture in terms of the above 6 stages????'
It is exactly that... the first stage of screening that you meet all the requirements as advised. You will then more than likely be invited to complete steps 2 and 3 simultaneously. As far as what happens to your results and how people are selected from thereon, I don't know.
'By the way word on the street here in Darwin. 1000 total and a bit of multi. Will get a look in����'
As far as the word on the street in Darwin, I would say this... If your 'bit of multi' meets the minimums, then yes no reason why you wouldn't get a look in. My next point is, that if you do only have the minimums, that more than likely, you would interview at the end of the recruitment trail. This is what my experience has shown, but again, it's QF's prerogative to do as they please.
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'Would 700 include the Qantas group or just the second officer direct entries?'
As far as I'm aware the 700 is only for SO. The others in the group I believe take care of their own recruitment needs.
'My question is stage 1 as mentioned above, were does that fit into the picture in terms of the above 6 stages????'
It is exactly that... the first stage of screening that you meet all the requirements as advised. You will then more than likely be invited to complete steps 2 and 3 simultaneously. As far as what happens to your results and how people are selected from thereon, I don't know.
'By the way word on the street here in Darwin. 1000 total and a bit of multi. Will get a look in����'
As far as the word on the street in Darwin, I would say this... If your 'bit of multi' meets the minimums, then yes no reason why you wouldn't get a look in. My next point is, that if you do only have the minimums, that more than likely, you would interview at the end of the recruitment trail. This is what my experience has shown, but again, it's QF's prerogative to do as they please.
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Thanks for that. 700 for second officer sounds realistic. It would be quite an attractive proposal for experienced Aussies to come home, and a lot would be Type rated on appropriate aircraft.
With regards to D town up here. I was actually talking about ga guy and girls getting a start here. It is not usually possible to get a first job here, but it is looking that way very soon. So best of luck to those who make the pilgrimage up here, might just be your turn now, with the right attitude 👍👍👍👍👍
With regards to D town up here. I was actually talking about ga guy and girls getting a start here. It is not usually possible to get a first job here, but it is looking that way very soon. So best of luck to those who make the pilgrimage up here, might just be your turn now, with the right attitude 👍👍👍👍👍
