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Old 16th Dec 2023, 08:37
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Originally Posted by morno
Mate I know the thread is looooooong, but it’s been discussed many times before. The short of it is you can be a 737 FO from day 1, or you could wait 4-6 years for a widebody FO.

Historical data is probably not applicable anymore because there are so many changes happening and so many retirements in the next 10 years
7 years for a330 FO at the moment. Not 4. Don’t spin crap on here. You’re QF morno. Give accurate figures.

A very, very small amount of people made 330 FO PER back in 2019 who started in late 2016. Count them on one hand.

At the moment it’s 7 years. Will it drop further next year? Maybe.
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Old 16th Dec 2023, 11:01
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Originally Posted by soseg
7 years for a330 FO at the moment. Not 4. Don’t spin crap on here. You’re QF morno. Give accurate figures.

A very, very small amount of people made 330 FO PER back in 2019 who started in late 2016. Count them on one hand.

At the moment it’s 7 years. Will it drop further next year? Maybe.
Yes, 7 years now, but with the amount of movement forecast, I’d be willing to bet it’ll come down to 4-6 maybe for a bit.
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Old 17th Dec 2023, 07:16
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Originally Posted by Swept-Wing
Sorry, poorly worded.
What I meant is Talent Aquisition is finished for 2023 and no more calls in December will go out for April starts Etc.
Is this for all QF group airlines or just mainline? And I guess they come back Jan 2nd or something like that?
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Old 17th Dec 2023, 07:30
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Talking

Originally Posted by Mr787X
Is this for all QF group airlines or just mainline? And I guess they come back Jan 2nd or something like that?
More like 15th or 22nd January LOL
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Old 17th Dec 2023, 07:48
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Originally Posted by morno
Yes, 7 years now, but with the amount of movement forecast, I’d be willing to bet it’ll come down to 4-6 maybe for a bit.
They told me that in 2017. Believe it when I see it. Perhaps converting more a330s into freighters will help.
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Old 17th Dec 2023, 17:48
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Originally Posted by soseg
They told me that in 2017. Believe it when I see it. Perhaps converting more a330s into freighters will help.
They told me that in 2008! Manage your expectations for career progression, my first chance at command is looking like 18 years seniority.
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Old 4th Jan 2024, 13:29
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Hey Makiko, you’re gonna love this:

Please note, Internal candidates are no longer required to complete SHL testing.
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Old 4th Jan 2024, 13:48
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why would i remotely care

just pointed out how it had worked since 2016 almost a decade now

& how internals up until now who scored high started up to two years earlier & seven figures higher career earnings

dont even know why sim for externals everyone passes

mainline interview guys must be stoked all internals despite bottom of bell curve hiilbilly test ability get a job

where does this word of god come from anyway

think you would heed something a little more substantive than a bitchy bb to accept qf dropping test after using em as bible for 45 plus years

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Old 4th Jan 2024, 21:16
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Man if that isn’t a dummy spit, I don’t know what is.

Another example of an impending shortage, dropping more requirements to get in.
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Old 4th Jan 2024, 23:49
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The testing is a joke. So many cheat. You have to scoff at those that wear a badge- “ I did the QF selection process and am better than everyone else.”

You ain’t particularly special. And they’ll change it at a whim for industrial advantage because management know too, you ain’t particularly special.
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Old 4th Jan 2024, 23:58
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makiko is just mad cause now he can't spruce his scam mates at PATS anymore. he went very quiet after all that came out (along with deleting all his posts referencing them)
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Old 5th Jan 2024, 00:40
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The testing is a joke. So many cheat.
​​​​​​The online testing is invigilated and the individual results revalidated later.
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Old 5th Jan 2024, 06:59
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​​​​​​The online testing is invigilated and the individual results revalidated later.
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not anymore
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Old 10th Jan 2024, 03:49
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Online testing aptitude testing continues for internals
But you will will still proceed to interview if you get 1/5
Just expect a much longer wait at your Group Airline if that is your score
& For the "have a crack" brigade keep in mind that turning up to ML interview with a modest test score
probably isn't a great idea, as some internals do actually get rejected

Really don't know why QF don't publicise more how things actually work these days

Start at Group Airline do okay & you can pretty much do what you want after a couple of years
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Old 10th Jan 2024, 05:29
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Originally Posted by Makiko
Online testing aptitude testing continues for internals
But you will will still proceed to interview if you get 1/5
Just expect a much longer wait at your Group Airline if that is your score
& For the "have a crack" brigade keep in mind that turning up to ML interview with a modest test score
probably isn't a great idea, as some internals do actually get rejected

Really don't know why QF don't publicise more how things actually work these days

Start at Group Airline do okay & you can pretty much do what you want after a couple of years
Wrong again Makiko

Internal candidates are no longer required to complete SHL testing

all internal candidates received this in writing from talent Aquisition.
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Old 10th Jan 2024, 05:52
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Not the guys I know SW and I know them from a few of the different group airlines

More misinformation it would seem from QF Recruitment team (PPrune)

Like all "The Gang" a few months back suggesting people join an external airline to get to ML

Really couldn't give more wayward advice
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Old 10th Jan 2024, 20:30
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Originally Posted by Makiko
Not the guys I know SW and I know them from a few of the different group airlines

More misinformation it would seem from QF Recruitment team (PPrune)

Like all "The Gang" a few months back suggesting people join an external airline to get to ML

Really couldn't give more wayward advice
In the email internals receive progressing to the interview stage, it states that internal candidates are no longer required to compete SHL testing.
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Old 11th Jan 2024, 02:00
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Originally Posted by Makiko
Not the guys I know SW and I know them from a few of the different group airlines

More misinformation it would seem from QF Recruitment team (PPrune)

Like all "The Gang" a few months back suggesting people join an external airline to get to ML

Really couldn't give more wayward advice
Is that similar to your advice about doing the PATS stuff Makiko?
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Old 11th Jan 2024, 02:42
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How many people get knocked back on the SHL testing? If you only need so little (1/5) why do it at all? Or are you saying that 20% of applicants get through for externals?
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Old 11th Jan 2024, 03:04
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Originally Posted by Makiko
Like all "The Gang" a few months back suggesting people join an external airline to get to ML
Sounds like great advice from "the gang". Everyone I know who was at Rex got in before internals that were on hold from previous recruitment drives.

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