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Old 8th Nov 2016, 03:24
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Think you might be looking at the wrong tree or misinterpreting the right tree.... QF CP is one rung below the "head of HR" and doesn't report to him.

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Old 8th Nov 2016, 03:39
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I've heard that HR have banned technical questions as they can't understand them.

When is corporate Australia going to wake up and realise the HR empire for what it is? An useless impediment to effective operation.

I notice, on the Qantas corporate tree, the Chief Pilot is 4 rungs below the head of HR. Or for that matter Olivia Wirthless. Both of which are level with the CEOs of International, Domestic and Loyalty.

Kind of gives you some perspective as to who's running recruiting.

That was exactly my point. Flight operations have been made impotent, in part due to the protagonists CP et al, desperation to be part of the corporate pig's trough. Pilots on the interview panel are there for decoration purposes, anyone else purporting to know here or elsewhere is deluded.The same game is afoot with a 23 page uniform guide, 'complete with stand down provisions'. Struggling for relevance, hijacking any process creates work for the corporate stiff, but not one dollar of revenue....HR irrelevance all over it. Sure operate a jet with 200 souls on board at 10kms above the earth at 900kmh and the most important thing is wearing a jacket at their pre-determined comfort level. WHS would have a field day with this....
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Originally Posted by Tuner 2
Think you might be looking at the wrong tree or misinterpreting the right tree.... QF CP is one rung below the "head of HR" and doesn't report to him.
Didn't say he reported to HR but he may as well. Everybody else seems to.
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HR....the self licking ice cream.
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 10:31
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Originally Posted by Falling Leaf
HR....the self licking ice cream.
Well said! Poetic actually, and absolutely spot-on.

Inventing rules so they can be policed, running courses because someone has to run them, and gaining bonuses upon reaching KPIs based on how many rules they make and courses they run.

Self-licking ice cream is a great analogy.
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 11:18
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Originally Posted by IsDon
I've heard that HR have banned technical questions as they can't understand them.
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The extent of tech stuff is at the discretion of the pilot assessor. It's quite variable and depends somewhat on the background of the candidate and where they take the interview.

Questions about route structure or aircraft engine types will generally come up in response to something a candidate brings up rather than a direct question.

It's this way because if we asked a standard question or two it'd be common knowledge by the next day.
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Old 9th Nov 2016, 02:47
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Could someone who actually knows something about QF recruitment comment on whether the application process is a universal one or still airline specific?
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Old 10th Nov 2016, 03:13
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So apparently just about all Virgin SO's and many FOs (737) have put in for qantas. I wonder if Joyce is thinking I could ground the virgin 777 long haul for many many months if I just employ all of these Boeing endorsed, experienced, SOs that Virgin has. Must be tempting for him.
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Old 10th Nov 2016, 04:14
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Pammy said:
'So apparently just about all Virgin SO's and many FOs (737) have put in for qantas. I wonder if Joyce is thinking I could ground the virgin 777 long haul for many many months if I just employ all of these Boeing endorsed, experienced, SOs that Virgin has. Must be tempting for him'. 9th Nov 2016 08:04

Pammy given the impediments to entry into aviation, despite the attempts to dumb it down, pilots are a strategic asset. American carriers bitten by demographics are realising this....

Like most things Australia is slow on the uptake and recognising pilots as assets and value adding to a company like Qantas would require an unwind of IR strategy dating back many many years...

Strategically focused carriers could cut the legs of from Qantas by opening bases in Australia....

Lucrative commuting contracts do the same thing.

Qantas was an employer of choice, a career path, that is long gone.
Oldmeadow et al has ensured that Qantas is just a job and could never conceive of the value add proposition a long term professional employee generates, their whole approach is it odds with this...
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Old 10th Nov 2016, 04:46
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Pammy,

Brilliant idea but that would help Virigin to profitability and so would not suit Qantas.
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Old 10th Nov 2016, 04:57
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I wonder if Joyce is thinking I could ground the virgin 777 long haul for many many months
He is good at grounding.
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Old 10th Nov 2016, 05:11
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Have any externals who have completed the first round of testing also applied for the new group positions?
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Old 10th Nov 2016, 09:21
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Question -

So...... it seems that a load of internals and a load of externals have been invited to the second phase of the process. From what I understand, it also seems that the only people that have had a "thanks but no thanks" reply are those that were invited to do the online assessment, but didn't attempt it (rather than attempted, but did badly).

Therefore, do you think that if you haven't had a reply by now its likely that you've been unsuccessful?
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Old 10th Nov 2016, 11:17
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I completed the first round and applied for the group positions.
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Old 11th Nov 2016, 00:24
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I know some guys who completed online psych, quiz etc and got a no thanks. But I'm in the same boat, can't see by now, how no news is good news.
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Old 11th Nov 2016, 01:48
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Hey Boeing,
Any info on why Qlink capt's and JQ guys aren't being contacted?
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Old 11th Nov 2016, 02:28
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What do you mean? They are. (At least for qlink)
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Old 11th Nov 2016, 02:31
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Qlink captains have interviews. Can't speak for jq
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Old 11th Nov 2016, 02:49
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My mistake I thought they had not heard. I know that no JQ people had heard.
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Old 11th Nov 2016, 02:59
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The lack of communication from our management amd the recruiters is disappointing.
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