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Think you might be looking at the wrong tree or misinterpreting the right tree.... QF CP is one rung below the "head of HR" and doesn't report to him.
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I've heard that HR have banned technical questions as they can't understand them.
When is corporate Australia going to wake up and realise the HR empire for what it is? An useless impediment to effective operation.
I notice, on the Qantas corporate tree, the Chief Pilot is 4 rungs below the head of HR. Or for that matter Olivia Wirthless. Both of which are level with the CEOs of International, Domestic and Loyalty.
Kind of gives you some perspective as to who's running recruiting.
That was exactly my point. Flight operations have been made impotent, in part due to the protagonists CP et al, desperation to be part of the corporate pig's trough. Pilots on the interview panel are there for decoration purposes, anyone else purporting to know here or elsewhere is deluded.The same game is afoot with a 23 page uniform guide, 'complete with stand down provisions'. Struggling for relevance, hijacking any process creates work for the corporate stiff, but not one dollar of revenue....HR irrelevance all over it. Sure operate a jet with 200 souls on board at 10kms above the earth at 900kmh and the most important thing is wearing a jacket at their pre-determined comfort level. WHS would have a field day with this....
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I've heard that HR have banned technical questions as they can't understand them.
When is corporate Australia going to wake up and realise the HR empire for what it is? An useless impediment to effective operation.
I notice, on the Qantas corporate tree, the Chief Pilot is 4 rungs below the head of HR. Or for that matter Olivia Wirthless. Both of which are level with the CEOs of International, Domestic and Loyalty.
Kind of gives you some perspective as to who's running recruiting.
That was exactly my point. Flight operations have been made impotent, in part due to the protagonists CP et al, desperation to be part of the corporate pig's trough. Pilots on the interview panel are there for decoration purposes, anyone else purporting to know here or elsewhere is deluded.The same game is afoot with a 23 page uniform guide, 'complete with stand down provisions'. Struggling for relevance, hijacking any process creates work for the corporate stiff, but not one dollar of revenue....HR irrelevance all over it. Sure operate a jet with 200 souls on board at 10kms above the earth at 900kmh and the most important thing is wearing a jacket at their pre-determined comfort level. WHS would have a field day with this....
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Well said! Poetic actually, and absolutely spot-on.
Inventing rules so they can be policed, running courses because someone has to run them, and gaining bonuses upon reaching KPIs based on how many rules they make and courses they run.
Self-licking ice cream is a great analogy.
Inventing rules so they can be policed, running courses because someone has to run them, and gaining bonuses upon reaching KPIs based on how many rules they make and courses they run.
Self-licking ice cream is a great analogy.
Nunc est bibendum
Questions about route structure or aircraft engine types will generally come up in response to something a candidate brings up rather than a direct question.
It's this way because if we asked a standard question or two it'd be common knowledge by the next day.
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So apparently just about all Virgin SO's and many FOs (737) have put in for qantas. I wonder if Joyce is thinking I could ground the virgin 777 long haul for many many months if I just employ all of these Boeing endorsed, experienced, SOs that Virgin has. Must be tempting for him.
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'So apparently just about all Virgin SO's and many FOs (737) have put in for qantas. I wonder if Joyce is thinking I could ground the virgin 777 long haul for many many months if I just employ all of these Boeing endorsed, experienced, SOs that Virgin has. Must be tempting for him'. 9th Nov 2016 08:04
Pammy given the impediments to entry into aviation, despite the attempts to dumb it down, pilots are a strategic asset. American carriers bitten by demographics are realising this....
Like most things Australia is slow on the uptake and recognising pilots as assets and value adding to a company like Qantas would require an unwind of IR strategy dating back many many years...
Strategically focused carriers could cut the legs of from Qantas by opening bases in Australia....
Lucrative commuting contracts do the same thing.
Qantas was an employer of choice, a career path, that is long gone.
Oldmeadow et al has ensured that Qantas is just a job and could never conceive of the value add proposition a long term professional employee generates, their whole approach is it odds with this...
'So apparently just about all Virgin SO's and many FOs (737) have put in for qantas. I wonder if Joyce is thinking I could ground the virgin 777 long haul for many many months if I just employ all of these Boeing endorsed, experienced, SOs that Virgin has. Must be tempting for him'. 9th Nov 2016 08:04
Pammy given the impediments to entry into aviation, despite the attempts to dumb it down, pilots are a strategic asset. American carriers bitten by demographics are realising this....
Like most things Australia is slow on the uptake and recognising pilots as assets and value adding to a company like Qantas would require an unwind of IR strategy dating back many many years...
Strategically focused carriers could cut the legs of from Qantas by opening bases in Australia....
Lucrative commuting contracts do the same thing.
Qantas was an employer of choice, a career path, that is long gone.
Oldmeadow et al has ensured that Qantas is just a job and could never conceive of the value add proposition a long term professional employee generates, their whole approach is it odds with this...
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Question -
So...... it seems that a load of internals and a load of externals have been invited to the second phase of the process. From what I understand, it also seems that the only people that have had a "thanks but no thanks" reply are those that were invited to do the online assessment, but didn't attempt it (rather than attempted, but did badly).
Therefore, do you think that if you haven't had a reply by now its likely that you've been unsuccessful?
So...... it seems that a load of internals and a load of externals have been invited to the second phase of the process. From what I understand, it also seems that the only people that have had a "thanks but no thanks" reply are those that were invited to do the online assessment, but didn't attempt it (rather than attempted, but did badly).
Therefore, do you think that if you haven't had a reply by now its likely that you've been unsuccessful?