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Old 14th Nov 2016, 10:18
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Originally Posted by keepitrealok
Keg,

The funniest thing about your post is that you have merely confirmed what Tuck Mach wrote.



But I don't think you realise it.

No. I knew what Tuck was getting at. It depends on a personal and subjective view of the definition of 'inside' I guess.

I'll use the analogy of a house. It's possible to be inside a house without knowing exactly what the layout of all the bedrooms is. You can still have a better idea as to what the layout may be based on everything else you know about the house than someone who is outside and has never been in. You may have a better idea as to the layout of the bedrooms if you've seen a couple whilst other people inside the house have only ever seen the living room.

Either way, every voice here is just part of the decision making process. I guess individuals can make up their minds as to what information appears to be well informed and what information is not and who is 'inside' the house and who isn't.
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Old 14th Nov 2016, 13:41
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Keg,

I can guarantee that I know where the top shelf grog is kept in at least 8 out of 10 houses I have been in.

Some things are just worth knowing and some aren't.
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Old 15th Nov 2016, 06:03
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The point remains, the game has changed..It is HR driven and as such potential applicants ought realise that what graces these pages ought be taken with a grain of salt..
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Old 15th Nov 2016, 07:24
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Lol. Of course it does. It's PPRUNE after all.
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Old 15th Nov 2016, 09:24
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I can guarantee that I know where the top shelf grog is kept in at least 8 out of 10 houses I have been in.
.or where the spare few beers may be located in a Dubes hotel room??

Second Officer route knowledge is far more than what needs to be known onboard the jet!!
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Old 15th Nov 2016, 09:36
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.or where the spare few beers may be located in a Dubes hotel room??

Second Officer route knowledge is far more than what needs to be known onboard the jet!!
In the suites. So many left behind
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Old 15th Nov 2016, 22:28
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As you said Keg:
"Lol. Of course it does. It's PPRuNe after all. "

QED
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Old 16th Nov 2016, 23:57
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Old 17th Nov 2016, 01:35
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AFAIK - No internals have heard since stage 1 submission. JQ Network.
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Old 17th Nov 2016, 01:54
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Have any externals been invited for Stage 2?
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Old 17th Nov 2016, 02:54
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A select few from Virgin, Cathay, Rex and RAAF have interviewed or will interview shortly. Internally, quite a few QantasLink captains and first officers have been invited. Hope that helps!
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Old 17th Nov 2016, 05:05
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Some answers to a few questions that people have put on here for the SO position.
1. QLink and mainline do share the same interviewing panel.
2. The interview formats are virtually the same. Group exercise, one on one interview, resitting of the psychometric test (half the number of questions though), a situation exercise and a 500+ question behavioural and attitudes questionnaire (which includes a question of whether you like fire and whether you like s*x strangely enough....not sure that's legal but never the less it's in the questionnaire).
3. There are no technical questions (doesn't mean you won't get asked though).
4. Current interviewing is for the A330 SO with a good chance that you will be moved up to FO when the 787 arrives due to the fact that many of the current A330 crew I guess will be needed for the 787. That in turn will leave more SO's required on both aircraft in 2017/18, which can be taken from the current/future applicant pool.
5. Based on point 4 it appears that they are looking for experienced drivers in this round of interviewing that can hit the ground running after the 330 training. Most being interviewed it seems are not GA pilots this year.
Hope that helps anyone.
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Old 17th Nov 2016, 05:35
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Originally Posted by skysook
A select few from Virgin, Cathay, Rex and RAAF have interviewed or will interview shortly. Internally, quite a few QantasLink captains and first officers have been invited. Hope that helps!
So sounds like they're being very select with who they bring in first. Has anyone that's still waiting for a response applied for the new "Qantas Group" job advertisement? Wondering wether it's worthwhile putting one in or just waiting until I hear back about the SO job application.

Also, is the general consensus still "no news is good news"?
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Old 17th Nov 2016, 21:56
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4. Current interviewing is for the A330 SO with a good chance that you will be moved up to FO when the 787 arrives due to the fact that many of the current A330 crew I guess will be needed for the 787.
Somewhat wishful thinking given the history of the place. I'd expect any FO slot to be on the 737.
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Old 17th Nov 2016, 22:35
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It is sweet irony watching the Qantas process. Flight Operations long ago surrendered any control of process. The uniform policy a HR overreach and the recruitment process another example of how far down Flight Operations is..HR are confronting pilots about their lack of adherence to the uniform policy. If management had any control this would be stopped, but the CP on down is silent. Pilots aren't 'brand ambassadors' as T-Shirt Todd might see it, the brand was safety and always will be. Pilots take that responsibility every time they work, but to HR that is not what is taught in textbooks so the clipboards and interrogations continue!

That distinct lack of foresight has delicious irony. Demographics are killing them.
The 737 contract at Qantas is I am told, a product of 1989. It is not bad when compared to GA but possesses only one advantage on a like for like comparison with reputable airlines. Even JB at Virgin said the difference in pilot total cost is very small, thus the only real advantage left for Qantas; Living in Australia.

Qantas will continue to need crew.

It will be interesting to see the if the Asian carriers decide a great commuting contract may be the thing that fill their pilot seats..



As the Asian carriers struggle to fill their seats, the Middle Eastern states have trouble with theirs, Qantas has a problem and they know it. Caught short of crew after years of brand and staff bashing, and focusing all their venture capital on Red Q, JQ to the world and other follies, there is simply no fat left as Alan wandered down roads of ego bereft of returns...

Now caught short of crew, pilots finds themselves tired and given the career path of a Qantas pilot in the lost decade, most lack the motivation to even care. Sorry but chummy emails don't cut it.
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Old 17th Nov 2016, 22:50
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As the Asian carriers struggle to fill their seats, the Middle Eastern states have trouble with theirs, Qantas has a problem and they know it.
Then why are experienced drivers at said airlines are returning back to their home countries to fly for legacy carriers, even if it means starting again at the bottom of the seniority list? It was even said earlier in this thread that Cathay has guys applying who are wanting to return back to Oz.
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Old 17th Nov 2016, 23:41
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HR are confronting pilots about their lack of adherence to the uniform policy. If management had any control this would be stopped, but the CP on down is silent. Pilots aren't 'brand ambassadors' as T-Shirt Todd might see it, the brand was safety and always will be. Pilots take that responsibility every time they work, but to HR that is not what is taught in textbooks so the clipboards and interrogations continue!
Are they really? That must lead to some interesting conversations.
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Old 18th Nov 2016, 04:20
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Originally Posted by dr dre
Then why are experienced drivers at said airlines are returning back to their home countries to fly for legacy carriers, even if it means starting again at the bottom of the seniority list? It was even said earlier in this thread that Cathay has guys applying who are wanting to return back to Oz.
Because no matter how much salary you earn, which seat you sit in, or which aircraft or airline you fly for, nothing beats having a good flying job in Australia.
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Old 18th Nov 2016, 04:47
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Most realistic post I have seen on this thread for a long time Tuck Mach, you would think that with all the recent announcements and emails that there would be an air of excitement at the place, but most guys just shrug their shoulders, roll their eyes and go back to being undervalued employees. If you think you are going to come to Qantas and feel special and appreciated you are looking to join the wrong place, it's just a bigger version of every other airline here.

And I beg to differ dr dre, friends of mine trying to come back from the sandpit are looking at flying anything back here, the thought of everything grinding to a halt again and being stuck as an SO for years is in fact putting them off the idea of Qantas. Have to disagree with them thoughI can't see recruitment slowing for a couple of years at least, we are just too busy. Even though we aren't really growing in fleet size the fact there has been no recruitment for so long means it will take years to catch up to get establishment numbers correct.
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Old 18th Nov 2016, 05:01
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I know a few Aussie Captains from UAE applied. Many FOs as well.
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