Jetstar Aus/NZ Positions
homes in Armadale are 550 to 600k + now. It is insane and goes to show how out of touch some people are. The bank wont even lend you 600k on 140k these days, not without a hefty deposit, but how is anyone meant to save a deposit that large when rents are 600+ a week.
This is why every up and coming Australian pilot will leave to the US or Asia. Honestly as bad as CX is, I would rather be broke in HK than Sydney... This decade is going to be an almighty reality check for QF management and the Airline industry in general.
My mate bought a house in Sydney when he got his first Jet job in 2005, his fiance who is a Lawyer also owned a home. Both homes together would have cost a total of $1 million, both were able to purchase them with a $50k deposit and on a single income. EACH house would be approaching $1.8 million in value and are mortgage free with one being rented. Not for a second do I think they achieved this personal worth of almost $4million through astute financial management, they were bloody lucky and rode the market. No way could a single 24 year old pilot in their first Jet job get a mortgage to by an average Sydney property now. To tell young pilots to work harder and cut out the coffees and smashed avo just minimises the actual problem, wages have not kept pace with the cost of living. I feel sorry for young people now, my kids will only get a house if we help them which fortunately we can do
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Hahaha is that you new RPM?.
Ummm... The last time I checked, it's none of your business why I am unfit for duty
Ummmm....Yes. It's not my business. I'm not management and I dont care what you do. But just remember, it was this attitude that contributed to a certain base closing. Continue with this attitude and state it publicly (for management to read), then don't be surprised if the next EBA has appropriate amendments which might discourage such behaviour. (Which I understand is their intention)
Secondly, the last time I checked again... I can talk to colleagues outside of work about anything I want.
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Management please read this, my sickness rate is up 500% compared to pre COVID! now eat my shorts because it’s all certified! Idiots!
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Thats alright, Kalitta, Atlas, Skywest, Spirit, Jetblue, Breeze all have bases in Perth, and maybe in the future CX, SQ, EK, QR will Open bases in Perth. Thats alright Jetstar, Network, Eastern, Sunstate, EFA hell even Mainline, they can shut all their bases. They will have to when they have no pilots within the next 10 years 😂😂😂
Haha. No its not. So amusing reading you having a rant at me when I'm not management at all.
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Ummmm....Yes. It's not my business. I'm not management and I dont care what you do. But just remember, it was this attitude that contributed to a certain base closing. Continue with this attitude and state it publicly (for management to read), then don't be surprised if the next EBA has appropriate amendments which might discourage such behaviour. (Which I understand is their intention)
You might want to have a read of the social media policy. Yes sure talk what you want but sharing something in public on social media is very different. You might want to check again. Not my business. I don't care. I'm not management. Write whatever you want.
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Ummmm....Yes. It's not my business. I'm not management and I dont care what you do. But just remember, it was this attitude that contributed to a certain base closing. Continue with this attitude and state it publicly (for management to read), then don't be surprised if the next EBA has appropriate amendments which might discourage such behaviour. (Which I understand is their intention)
You might want to have a read of the social media policy. Yes sure talk what you want but sharing something in public on social media is very different. You might want to check again. Not my business. I don't care. I'm not management. Write whatever you want.
You are of course entitled to your opinion but I'm glad to see (for all our sakes) that it not widely shared.
Instead you're going on about how HK is much better than Aus right now... maybe take one look at the number of people who've left to come to QF vs the opposite might tell you the reality.
If you hate Australia so much why are you (presumably) still here instead of having taken one of the many overseas opportunities that you listed?
Instead you're going on about how HK is much better than Aus right now... maybe take one look at the number of people who've left to come to QF vs the opposite might tell you the reality.
Instead you're going on about how HK is much better than Aus right now... maybe take one look at the number of people who've left to come to QF vs the opposite might tell you the reality.
I love Australia but this country is stuffed and if you cant see it, then you are blind, and I hate communism but I would take some of the CCPs values and line QF management and the current politicians up against a wall or trench.
If you hate Australia so much why are you (presumably) still here instead of having taken one of the many overseas opportunities that you listed?
Instead you're going on about how HK is much better than Aus right now... maybe take one look at the number of people who've left to come to QF vs the opposite might tell you the reality.
Instead you're going on about how HK is much better than Aus right now... maybe take one look at the number of people who've left to come to QF vs the opposite might tell you the reality.
And you know what, I would argue that all the airline ceos who meet every year at IATA, have all conspired to work together to bring down pilot salaries, so that no pilot is better off regardless of where he flees to. I think every Aussie pilot ideally would like to avoid EK, CX, SQ, QR etc... but what do we all sit idly by at a subsidary on poverty wages just hoping that Mainline takes us??? My situation is different, but I am talking on behalf of all the pilots in this country, I mean I cant even imagine how much stress a qlink or rex pilot based out of Sydney must be under. I would not even want to board that aircraft. The poor souls stressed 24/7 as to how they will cover the rent or ever afford a home or family of their own!! If you are based in Syd and well even Melb and earning under 200k and dont own a home, there is no light at the end of the tunnel. And whoever has the answer should speak now, as to alleviate stress off the backs of 1000s of pilots. And I know we arent the worst ones out there in society, you just need to look to the nursing shortage. And the govs solution is just bring more in on visas, there never has been and never will be a shortage of any occupation in this country. I am up to my third industry and there has never ever been a shortage in construction or mining, it is a shortage of people willing to work for peanuts.
Well then, maybe you can make a pamphlet to hand out to your fellow pilots who have only been in the industry a couple of years, as to how they can afford a large home and send their children to a private school. I'm pretty good at maths and I cant make the numbers work, and I doubt anyone around my age bracket can, unless they were born wealthy... whats the average home price again in Aus? I believe its 1.2m. Average rent in Syd is now $1100 a week. 140k is around 8k a month in the hand, 50% + already gone to rent if your in Syd. So yea if you have any ideas I reckon the younger pilot community would love to hear...
2- Don’t get personal loans make sacrifices.
3- Don’t take financial advice from another pilot. Case proven in this forum.
4. Buy a 50sqm brick attached unit in a small agricultural town 4-10 hours drive from home and rent it out so you only have to top it up a small amount. ( be smart about the prospects of that town).
Keep renting where you need to be….three years later buy a second 50sqm brick unit and wait……wait……three years later be amazed when you can sell units and buy a three bedroom home 2 hours drive from where you need to be ( be smart about the prospects of the area) wait another three years,
keep renting where you need to be, take a command at your Airline of choice. Sell three bedroom house and buy modest three bedroom house in up and coming suburb in city of choice.
5. In the nine years you are waiting, never spend more than 15k on a vehicle and then only if you can pay cash.
6. Only holiday once a year and stay in a Holiday Park or camp site.
7. Don’t have a lifestyle and then see what that does to your cashflow, set your cashflow ( weekly spending account) and then see what lifestyle that achieves……cause that’s it. Thats how I discovered rock fishing. Its a win win win.
To be clear, I’m not saying that will definitely work. I think people in their 20’s and 30’s face a tougher road to financial freedom than I did, but, that’s what I did and it’s what I would try again if I was 20 years younger.
If you can’t kick start that process then I would look to rent somewhere cheaper. If it is still not possible then I would move to the bush and start again.
Good luck.
Keep renting where you need to be….three years later buy a second 50sqm brick unit and wait……wait……three years later be amazed when you can sell units and buy a three bedroom home 2 hours drive from where you need to be ( be smart about the prospects of the area) wait another three years,
keep renting where you need to be, take a command at your Airline of choice. Sell three bedroom house and buy modest three bedroom house in up and coming suburb in city of choice.
5. In the nine years you are waiting, never spend more than 15k on a vehicle and then only if you can pay cash.
6. Only holiday once a year and stay in a Holiday Park or camp site.
7. Don’t have a lifestyle and then see what that does to your cashflow, set your cashflow ( weekly spending account) and then see what lifestyle that achieves……cause that’s it. Thats how I discovered rock fishing. Its a win win win.
To be clear, I’m not saying that will definitely work. I think people in their 20’s and 30’s face a tougher road to financial freedom than I did, but, that’s what I did and it’s what I would try again if I was 20 years younger.
If you can’t kick start that process then I would look to rent somewhere cheaper. If it is still not possible then I would move to the bush and start again.
Good luck.
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Or you could just leave aviation and find a job somewhere other than Sydney or Melbourne.
They need everyone they can get.
It’s not a free pass, but if you interviewed ‘normally’ ie. Could they stand a flight deck with you for 8-10 hours and showed a standard ability in the sim ride (given consideration to zero time on that type) you’re fine.
It’s not a free pass, but if you interviewed ‘normally’ ie. Could they stand a flight deck with you for 8-10 hours and showed a standard ability in the sim ride (given consideration to zero time on that type) you’re fine.
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