Jetstar Aus/NZ Positions
I don't care. Just don't complain when I Call in sick all the time, abuse WDOs so I'm paid what I'm worth,. fly fast everywhere and take heaps of discretionary fuel because I can... Show us some respect and maybe you might get some back. But until then.. you can go get ******.
Last edited by a_pilot; 25th Mar 2024 at 06:02.
There was nothing temporary about it, they permanently closed the Perth base along with Newcastle. They've made a commercial decision to open Perth again, not sure what the rest of your post is about but it sounds like you've been fed a line.
There was nothing temporary about it, they permanently closed the Perth
I intended to write the base was "closed" originally but I always knew some smart ass would come back and say now it has since been reopened (now some smart ass will probably argue back and say its not open yet.)
Yes it was closed permanently at the time but since reopened (or will reopen) that's why I wrote temporarily.
So it was only a temporary closure even it not officially announced or known as such at the time.
Either way, its not relevant to what I'm trying to say, if it was closed permanently at the time or temporarily (since it has reopened or will reopen soon, whatever suits you) is not relevant to my argument.
It is well known unofficially (always will be) around the whole network that the base was closed due to certain pilots behaving a certain way, is what I was trying to say.
It is known back then that even management (perhaps the CEO) said "we will not/cannot reward fraud".
not sure what the rest of your post is about
are you really so smart ? (Said with sarcasm)Awaiting a response from the grammar police
Last edited by a_pilot; 25th Mar 2024 at 07:03.
It is well known unofficially (always will be) around the whole network that the base was closed due to certain pilots behaving a certain way, is what I was trying to say.
It is well known back then that even management said "we will not/cannot reward fraud".
I trust you can read English and have basic comprehension skills
or do I need to explain
It's funny they have no problem when their system is screwing us over.
And how is it fraud? They are MY ******* sick days! I use them because I am tired or they didn't give me any of the days Off I asked for. I am tired because of their ****ty rosters.
Jetstar will always do Jetstar things. Nothing in the EBA says they have to respect me or be a good employer. I acknowledge that. But equally nothing says I have to be a good employee. So yes... If they see me as a number and screw me in everyway they can, I'm going to do the same back. Clearly something has flicked a switch in the pilot group because almost everybody does the same. My thinking is not a minority it's the majority. People are no longer scared of their bull**** and I think that worries them.
But.... it doesn't have to be this way.
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And how is it fraud? They are MY ******* sick
Sure you have a medical certificate, a dodgy one from online. Is this not fraud ?
Yes sure you have a tummy pain and nobody can prove otherwise that you don't.
If you call a colleague to pick up a WDO after you just called in sick (but you actually are not) is this not fraud?
Then your colleague returns you the WDO next week. Is this not fraud ?
Lucky you don't work for Emirates or other airlines where you might get pulled up for having too many sickies or held back on a promotion. Lucky you don't work for Cathay where they had a 40% pay cut yet you still hate the place so much. Can always be worse, can always be better, but some will never be happy.
Last edited by a_pilot; 25th Mar 2024 at 08:00.
If you are not genuinely sick, this is fraud, is it not?
Sure you have a medical certificate, a dodgy one from online. Is this not fraud ?
Yes sure you have a tummy pain and nobody can prove otherwise that you don't.
If you call a colleague to pick up a WDO after you just called in sick (but you actually are not) is this not fraud?
Lucky you don't work for Emirates or other airlines where you might get pulled up for having too many sickies or held back on a promotion. Lucky you don't work for Cathay where they had a 40% pay cut yet you still hate the place so much. Can always be worse, can always be better, but some will never be happy.
Sure you have a medical certificate, a dodgy one from online. Is this not fraud ?
Yes sure you have a tummy pain and nobody can prove otherwise that you don't.
If you call a colleague to pick up a WDO after you just called in sick (but you actually are not) is this not fraud?
Lucky you don't work for Emirates or other airlines where you might get pulled up for having too many sickies or held back on a promotion. Lucky you don't work for Cathay where they had a 40% pay cut yet you still hate the place so much. Can always be worse, can always be better, but some will never be happy.
Ummm... The last time I checked, it's none of your business why I am unfit for duty. I could have a cold, tummy upset as you said. I could be tired because you rostered me an early start after doing a BoC a day ago.. My son could have a bad night because I can't go to his soccer knockout carnival in Shepperton this weekend because you rostered me a 3am standby following a Star day.
Or I'm Just not mentally fit for Work on day 6 after doing 5 X 4 sector days.
strangely enough, I tend to get sick more after months of 80+ hour rosters. Who would have thought.
This stuff happens all the time.. You know why? You employ people not machines. People are entitled to a life outside of work (even if you have nothing else going on.)
Secondly, the last time I checked again... I can talk to colleagues outside of work about anything I want.
So I think your clutching at straws. I understand it's a difficult time for all you management people given how much disrespect your staff have for you.
Tell you what, care to share what base you are so I know to call in sick rather than fly with you? I somehow doubt we'd get along very well.
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Aren’t they legally referred to as Personal Leave days? They’re not just used for being “sick” in the traditional tummy and sore throat.
They can be used legitimately for days when you are not fit for duty, whatever the reason may be.
I’m certainly past hoarding them or doing the company any favours. If I’m unfit, I’m not coming in.
They can be used legitimately for days when you are not fit for duty, whatever the reason may be.
I’m certainly past hoarding them or doing the company any favours. If I’m unfit, I’m not coming in.
Aren’t they legally referred to as Personal Leave days? They’re not just used for being “sick” in the traditional tummy and sore throat.
They can be used legitimately for days when you are not fit for duty, whatever the reason may be.
I’m certainly past hoarding them or doing the company any favours. If I’m unfit, I’m not coming in.
They can be used legitimately for days when you are not fit for duty, whatever the reason may be.
I’m certainly past hoarding them or doing the company any favours. If I’m unfit, I’m not coming in.
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Aren’t they legally referred to as Personal Leave days? They’re not just used for being “sick” in the traditional tummy and sore throat.
They can be used legitimately for days when you are not fit for duty, whatever the reason may be.
I’m certainly past hoarding them or doing the company any favours. If I’m unfit, I’m not coming in.
They can be used legitimately for days when you are not fit for duty, whatever the reason may be.
I’m certainly past hoarding them or doing the company any favours. If I’m unfit, I’m not coming in.
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I just tell my doctor the truth, that I am sick of the companies bulls**t and that I am to tired of their s**t to bother going in. He just laughs and says I understand and signs it off. Doctors understand that employees are overworked, underpaid and treated like **** these days. Who cares if your really sick? Maybe management shouldn't burn out their employees. Imagine if management gave just 5% give and take to their employees, most would bend over backwards for them, but these selfish sycophantic money hungry mba leeches cant help themselves. So f..kem! And it will only get worse for management from now on, as noone in my generation can afford a home or a good standard of living, so what do we care anymore??? What you going to do? Sack us 😂😂😂 go for it, not as if your salary covered the bills. There is nothing left for us to lose and nothing to take from us.
hey QF management, do you know what is the most dangerous man out? One with nothing left to lose so keep going!
hey QF management, do you know what is the most dangerous man out? One with nothing left to lose so keep going!
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You all speak as if you earn the same as a Laborer. If you can’t afford to live on 140+k (L3FO) a yr you’re not very good with money. I could afford a family on 90k. Guess I’m good with the money tho don’t need the BMW or Audi.
but back to reality mate, noone can afford to buy a home in Syd or Melb on 140k I doubt anyone now on 200k could now. But yea I will jump back to your parallel universe now where I can afford a home on 90k 😂😂😂 good to know we have airline pilots taking LSD...
Oh and a laborer would probably earn more anyway.
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And next he will say send your kids to a public school. Well anyone in their right mind would be looking at forking out a fortune for a private school these days. If you send your kid to a public school nowadayd they will think they are another gender by year 3 and be a full blown transgender communist by year 5. So no I would like to send my kids to a private school and as an airline pilot I should be able to afford a nice home, car, food and the ability to privately educate my children. Just goes to show some people in this profession have no standards or self respect!
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And next he will say send your kids to a public school. Well anyone in their right mind would be looking at forking out a fortune for a private school these days. If you send your kid to a public school nowadayd they will think they are another gender by year 3 and be a full blown transgender communist by year 5. So no I would like to send my kids to a private school and as an airline pilot I should be able to afford a nice home, car, food and the ability to privately educate my children. Just goes to show some people in this profession have no standards or self respect!
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And next he will say send your kids to a public school. Well anyone in their right mind would be looking at forking out a fortune for a private school these days. If you send your kid to a public school nowadayd they will think they are another gender by year 3 and be a full blown transgender communist by year 5. So no I would like to send my kids to a private school and as an airline pilot I should be able to afford a nice home, car, food and the ability to privately educate my children. Just goes to show some people in this profession have no standards or self respect!
and to add, my kids go to a private school. I own a rather large home and two cars. Like I said I’m good with money.
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Well then, maybe you can make a pamphlet to hand out to your fellow pilots who have only been in the industry a couple of years, as to how they can afford a large home and send their children to a private school. I'm pretty good at maths and I cant make the numbers work, and I doubt anyone around my age bracket can, unless they were born wealthy... whats the average home price again in Aus? I believe its 1.2m. Average rent in Syd is now $1100 a week. 140k is around 8k a month in the hand, 50% + already gone to rent if your in Syd. So yea if you have any ideas I reckon the younger pilot community would love to hear...
Well then, maybe you can make a pamphlet to hand out to your fellow pilots who have only been in the industry a couple of years, as to how they can afford a large home and send their children to a private school. I'm pretty good at maths and I cant make the numbers work, and I doubt anyone around my age bracket can, unless they were born wealthy... whats the average home price again in Aus? I believe its 1.2m. Average rent in Syd is now $1100 a week. 140k is around 8k a month in the hand, 50% + already gone to rent if your in Syd. So yea if you have any ideas I reckon the younger pilot community would love to hear...