Jetstar Aus/NZ Positions
98% of JQ NZ pilots are in the union. Each time through negotiations there is wind of any form of tough negotiations, NZ crew get rostered 15 to 20 days off a month and the domestic flying gets filled up with EBA pilots just to show what actually would happen should we choose any form of industrial action.
Knowingly signing a sub standard contract, then 'working very hard to improve the contract' is ridiculous. You know improvements are not going to happen.
Sounds to me like the guy who flys over from OZ on leave to cover the JQ NZ flying has just revealed himself to pprune.
However, how ever you look at it the contract in NZ is far below the standard at which they should be on and deserve to be on - similar to network flighting for basic and standards in their contract. Whether you like it or not, he's not wrong.
You would be just an absolute delight to work with in the flight deck.
Huuuuuh? Do you mean you would join an outfit, and come EBA renewal time you would rather keep to your expired T&Cs than persue improvements?
Sounds to me like the guy who flys over from OZ on leave to cover the JQ NZ flying has just revealed himself to pprune.
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Anyone remember the original JQ contract. The pilots took it then fought hard to improve it, albeit with a little bit of infighting. Now JQ NZ pilots are trying to do the same and it is hindered by Aussie EBA guys looking out for themselves.
and yes it has been hundreds over the years not a handful at best.
and yes it has been hundreds over the years not a handful at best.
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Anyone remember the original JQ contract. The pilots took it then fought hard to improve it, albeit with a little bit of infighting. Now JQ NZ pilots are trying to do the same and it is hindered by Aussie EBA guys looking out for themselves.
and yes it has been hundreds over the years not a handful at best.
and yes it has been hundreds over the years not a handful at best.
If you want change you have to start with the union and the pilot base as a whole.
But you consider it ridiculous that anyone who does join ever tries to improve things?
Just like QF are saying to the Network guys "sorry guys............
NZ can take a lot from Network in regards to this.
Improvements don't necessarily mean equal pay to thier Australian based cousins, it means improving whats important to JQ NZ over what they have now.
A ridiculous pursuit you maintain?
And look what's happening with Network, pilot unity, strong desire from Union reps and the pilot base and what is happening? a lot of change, the inequality has been brought forward and the foundation of "the wage policy" is dying.
A ridiculous pursuit you maintain?
They should be aiming for AirNZ standards, there's no reason why they should not be aiming for their direct competitor in NZ.
When do the Kiwis negotiate?
I agree that they should be aiming for Air NZ standards. The flying is almost identical and the parent company is at least as financially capable of supporting the raise as Air NZ is. Aim for it and if it falls slightly short then it’s still a good bump.
If the Jetstar NZ pilots don’t get a good bump in the next round of negotiations then they probably won’t get one in the next twenty years. This next eighteen months is the best window for a shot that has been seen in thirty years and probably won’t be seen for another thirty years. Pull the trigger, or don’t.
I agree that they should be aiming for Air NZ standards. The flying is almost identical and the parent company is at least as financially capable of supporting the raise as Air NZ is. Aim for it and if it falls slightly short then it’s still a good bump.
If the Jetstar NZ pilots don’t get a good bump in the next round of negotiations then they probably won’t get one in the next twenty years. This next eighteen months is the best window for a shot that has been seen in thirty years and probably won’t be seen for another thirty years. Pull the trigger, or don’t.
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Jetstar 787
New to the entire JQ landscape here. Anyone able to give any insight on how hiring on the 787 works? Are pilots only recruited via the second officer program? Or is it possible to join as 320 f/o and then get a fleet change at some point?
Entry positions into Jetstar Australia are 787 SO and A320 FO. Any vacancies on the 787 for FO or CP are advertised and yes you can bid from A320 FO over if your seniority allows.