Jetstar Aus/NZ Positions
So the pilot in question has been busted with photos on their phone of the drug in question that’s on the suit case, I have heard a failed DAMP test. To me walk like a duck, quacks like a duck must be a duck. So, pay out the AL and send them on their way no excuse/s. I simply don’t care zero tolerance for this, ppl pay money to trust the two up front and in return they should have respectable ppl up the front.
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If true this person can’t be near an aeroplane , meet Lyle Prouse a few times and what he went through with alcohol is what a person would go through with drugs today , maybe in the future there will be better options for hard drug rehabilitation ? If he put his hand up and asked for help it could have ended differently? That’s not how this works unfortunately, denial is a beast ! Wish him good luck .
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Sadly the way JQ Pilots are treated compared to mainline is appalling , the feeling of being a second class citizen , paxing economy on duty is just going to lead to mental health issues in some people. The only way to fix this is group seniority so all can have a chance at the big time in mainline .
it’s quite sad that Rex and Virgin pilots have a much clearer path into QANTAS THAN the group pilots .
per hour worked the JQ Pilots are on about half of their 737 counterparts.
Expect more weird stuff from the boys and girls in Orange .
it’s quite sad that Rex and Virgin pilots have a much clearer path into QANTAS THAN the group pilots .
per hour worked the JQ Pilots are on about half of their 737 counterparts.
Expect more weird stuff from the boys and girls in Orange .
what? Dude it’s a seat! And trust me the business ones aren’t all that crash hot either.
Sadly the way JQ Pilots are treated compared to mainline is appalling , the feeling of being a second class citizen , paxing economy on duty is just going to lead to mental health issues in some people. The only way to fix this is group seniority so all can have a chance at the big time in mainline .
it’s quite sad that Rex and Virgin pilots have a much clearer path into QANTAS THAN the group pilots .
per hour worked the JQ Pilots are on about half of their 737 counterparts.
Expect more weird stuff from the boys and girls in Orange .
it’s quite sad that Rex and Virgin pilots have a much clearer path into QANTAS THAN the group pilots .
per hour worked the JQ Pilots are on about half of their 737 counterparts.
Expect more weird stuff from the boys and girls in Orange .
someone who knows more may correct me, I thought ‘group seniority’ meant we were one list of multiple workgroups, but it doesn’t mean someone who joined Jetstar before someone who joined mainline gets a crack at mainline vacancies. Same at JQ…JQ vacancies go to JQ pilots first before any mainline pilot gets a look.
there is a mechanism for those pre Nov 04 to move, the MOU, however it is my understanding that neither airline now will allow pilots to go as DEC. You’ll be an FO first, regardless of what the seniority would get you.
someone who knows more may correct me, I thought ‘group seniority’ meant we were one list of multiple workgroups, but it doesn’t mean someone who joined Jetstar before someone who joined mainline gets a crack at mainline vacancies. Same at JQ…JQ vacancies go to JQ pilots first before any mainline pilot gets a look.
there is a mechanism for those pre Nov 04 to move, the MOU, however it is my understanding that neither airline now will allow pilots to go as DEC. You’ll be an FO first, regardless of what the seniority would get you.
there is a mechanism for those pre Nov 04 to move, the MOU, however it is my understanding that neither airline now will allow pilots to go as DEC. You’ll be an FO first, regardless of what the seniority would get you.
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Not quite, group seniority would mean that each entity would keep their own seniority as it stands at the moment but ALL unfilled or new recruitment would be advertised to all pilots in the group who could then bid for the position. It would be awarded on group seniority, this would mean that Qantas couldn’t recruit external candidates into Mainline unless there were a lack of bidders from within the group. The outcome would be you would NEVER have external hires into Qantas as this positions would likely be filled with internal bids, the vacancies at the other entities created by people moving to Mainline would then be advertised again and allocated to other internal bids before you finally end up with a bunch of vacancies in the least desirable place filled by external pilots, Once in Qantas Mainline you then are subject to their seniority provisions so you could never have a Jetstar Captain winning a bid for Command in Qantas unless no one in Qantas bid for it.
Said by someone who doesn’t regularly get called out for a 5 hour paxing sector in 29B with 30inch seat pitch.
I’m sure it’s not comfortable, I don’t dispute that. But to say it’s going to affect your mental health, that’s a stretch.
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We all bitch about it but how many of us do anything about it? How many of us call fatigued after a long pax in 29B? Or after getting served butte chicken for breakfast to DPS?
it's no different to some of the terrible patterns. Jetstar don't care until it costs them money. Everyone calls in sick and then they change it real fast.
We all have to have some balls and stand up for ourselves and say NO. Jetstar is never going to respect it's staff. So it to falls upon us to **** them over in evey way and MAKE them change things.
it's no different to some of the terrible patterns. Jetstar don't care until it costs them money. Everyone calls in sick and then they change it real fast.
We all have to have some balls and stand up for ourselves and say NO. Jetstar is never going to respect it's staff. So it to falls upon us to **** them over in evey way and MAKE them change things.
We all bitch about it but how many of us do anything about it? How many of us call fatigued after a long pax in 29B? Or after getting served butte chicken for breakfast to DPS?
it's no different to some of the terrible patterns. Jetstar don't care until it costs them money. Everyone calls in sick and then they change it real fast.
We all have to have some balls and stand up for ourselves and say NO. Jetstar is never going to respect it's staff. So it to falls upon us to **** them over in evey way and MAKE them change things.
it's no different to some of the terrible patterns. Jetstar don't care until it costs them money. Everyone calls in sick and then they change it real fast.
We all have to have some balls and stand up for ourselves and say NO. Jetstar is never going to respect it's staff. So it to falls upon us to **** them over in evey way and MAKE them change things.
Stop voting in garbage and start looking after yourself by pushing back on pathetic union negotiation attempts and make some headway.
I don't know how we are supposed to use it paxing to DPS when we are not given a boarding pass anyway.
What about when we get given a standby boarding pass on QF?
It actually surprises me the amount of union delegates (AFAP and AIPA) that don't truely know what's in the QF SH agreement. That has to be our goal. The devil is always in the detail.
AFAP negotiated a change in our paxing provisions but it's next to useless. QF get a better deal on our own aircraft FFS!
Its only required to be booked in extra legroom at roster publish. No mention of no middle seats etc. I don't know what they were thinking of that. I would rather sit in any window or aisle seat then sit in a middle seat even if it's extra legroom.
What it should say is that a pilot MUST be booked an extra legroom seat that's not a middle seat at time of roster publication. It should also say that if the above seats are available at check-in it MUST be assigned and failing that a window or aisle (pilot preference) MUST be assigned with the seat next to them to be the last assigned seat on the aircraft.
It should also say that if a JQ aircraft has business class it MUST be assigned to the pilot.
We Will never get confirmed business class on QF but it should be that it must be booked if it's available at roster publication.
To me that is the minimum standard I will accept. Anything less is not valuing the position I hold within the company. I will therefore adjust my care and performance to a lower Level employee in return.
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Ongoing recruitment with 20 FO's starting every month for the foreseeable future. I believe the biggest problem is they don't have the applications to support that level of new starts. They could improve the conditions but Qantas Group seems immune to giving inflation matching pay rises. Lifestyle is a major problem with a disfunctional roster and bidding process along with aircraft turning up that will turn shorthaul pilots into Long haul Crew but in shorthaul conditions. 10.5 hour sector with two crew will cause a lot to leave.
Ongoing recruitment with 20 FO's starting every month for the foreseeable future. I believe the biggest problem is they don't have the applications to support that level of new starts. They could improve the conditions but Qantas Group seems immune to giving inflation matching pay rises. Lifestyle is a major problem with a disfunctional roster and bidding process along with aircraft turning up that will turn shorthaul pilots into Long haul Crew but in shorthaul conditions. 10.5 hour sector with two crew will cause a lot to leave.